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  • 03-04-2015 5:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭


    Good looking card at Haydock. Already backed Tenor Nivernais at what I thought was a generous 12/1 and I see Ladbrokes have just gone a stand out 14s in the 3.45. Much better form than his figures suggest in some good handicaps, he travelled well behind Rocky Creek two starts back before stumbling when making good headway, and he may not have fully saw out three miles. This is easier than some of his last couple and 14/1 looks about 6 points too big.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭razorhead


    Mr Yeeehaaa has mentioned him in his blog!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty


    Venetia Williams is not having a great time of it at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.

    Great minds and all that. Already backed him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    Great minds and all that. Already backed him

    Glad I am not alone then.

    On a different note, I had my betfair sportsbook account restricted recently I guess only noticed today. Delighted. Shows I am running ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Does anyone know who is Pricewise? 3k of the 4k matched is on Toner Nivernais thought it could be him



    Edit: Pricewise Virak, Toner Nivernais, Net Work Rouge, Bel Weir


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    Glad I am not alone then.

    On a different note, I had my betfair sportsbook account restricted recently I guess only noticed today. Delighted. Shows I am running ok.

    Shows you're doing alright but delighted would be the wrong choice of word. BF Sportsbook one you want to keep especially if you are backing Dundalk. They price them up the night before and have been way off. 25/1 Cheers Buddy they went the other night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    Shows you're doing alright but delighted would be the wrong choice of word. BF Sportsbook one you want to keep especially if you are backing Dundalk. They price them up the night before and have been way off. 25/1 Cheers Buddy they went the other night

    True but inevitable if your doing ok. Ways around that too I think my wife will be opening an account soon.:pac:. Restricted in amounts but still taking bets at least. They are v gd for Dundalk and are often generous with the odds of the outsiders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    Cash or Casualty does look very well handicapped. Fitness my only concern but its a bit of a long round trip for the trainer just for a gallop so I hope he's ready .I'm following you two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭kalinisi


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    Glad I am not alone then.

    On a different note, I had my betfair sportsbook account restricted recently I guess only noticed today. Delighted. Shows I am running ok.

    Had mine restricted too, only noticed thursday when i tried to back a horse at clonmel, rage!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭green n gold


    One im liking today is Apache Gold in the 3.55 at Cork. Seems to thrive around here, 3 wins, 2 seconds from its 5 runs. Trainer doing ok the last 2 weeks, 2 hurdles winners from total of 7 runners under all codes. Horse seems to handle all types of ground and has won on hvy. O'Brien won an apprentice race on him L.T.O and gets to claim his useful 7 lbs here. Has a high draw to overcome but done so very well in all 3 of its wins around here, breaks very well from the stalls. Only slight negative is it hasn't won 1st time out in its past 3 seasons, but has run extremely well turned out quickly in 2 of those 3 yrs so im hopin its pretty forward today. The 7/1 with Ladbrokes is gone but 6/1 still widely available. Good luck to all today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭ogruairi


    My fancy at Cork today is Aared in the 14:45. A good second to Ol' Man River in August on Gd/ Yielding ground. Disappointing 5th LTO on Good to Firm ground so hoping he can get back to winning ways today at a general price of 4/1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    I backed NOW LET GO 5.45 carlisle last night at 7/4 pp for crawford and is 11/10 now.
    hopefully he does the biz
    gl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Gavster1982


    Anyone fancy upswing 2.35 haydock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭jimjamcos


    Anyone fancy upswing 2.35 haydock.

    I think Bell Weir at 25/1 is overpriced in that race. Course form and fairly handicapped


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭Snipp


    monsieur gibraltar at newton abbey for me in the 2:25 at newton abbot. short price but can not see anyone coming close


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭oPATCHo


    Sandy Beach for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭oPATCHo


    easy for monsieur


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Huge drift on East India - nothing to see here folks, move along :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Huge drift on East India - nothing to see here folks, move along :pac:
    Disgusting. Horse went from favourite to the outsider just before the off and ran like a pig.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭jimjamcos


    Disgusting. Horse went from favourite to the outsider just before the off and ran like a pig.

    In fairness, most of AOB's have been drifting massively as everyone knows they need the first run. The Warrior drifted like a barge last Sunday but still won so highly doubt there's anything corrupt in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭hawkhead


    Baby Shine @ 14/1 in the 3-10 is too big a price not to have a little e-way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Buchanan cost No Deal there, downed tools after three out and then the horse in front came under pressure he beat No Deal under a length.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Not sure what to the make of Tenor there, he looked like he was working into it with 3 to jump, then seemed to disappear with the commentator mentioning he was staying on (when out of picture) but still looked well beaten when he came into picture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭mr.jingle


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.

    Great shout


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 576 ✭✭✭mick malones mauser


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.

    Boom Shakalaka Boom !!!!!

    Well done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.

    thanks for that..had €20 ew on him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.

    Just brilliant and thankyou


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭green n gold


    Well done lads on cash or casualty, great spot, lovely sp.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Choo choo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    Did Cash or Casualty win?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    cheers sdoc13 for cash or casualty yeeeeeeeeeee hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    Polo_Mint wrote: »
    Did Cash or Casualty win?

    booommmmmmmmmmmmm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Polo_Mint


    Thanks for the Tip!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.

    I will give thst a little BOOM lads. Really fancied it if I new it was fit would have been a max bet.

    Great to see some of u get on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭oldfella


    cheers for the tip ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    sdoc13 wrote: »
    I have followed PC on Tenor. into 10s now I see.

    One other one that stands out to me as been well handicapped is Cash or Casualty in the 3.55 Cork.

    Conditions and distance perfect. Has won off marks of 85 and 79 most recently in sept 2013. Has form on the course when finishing 3rd around this time last year off a mark of 77, Runs off 58 tomorrow and if fit should run well. 14/1 seems reasonable to me. 3 pts win.
    Great minds and all that. Already backed him
    BumperD wrote: »
    Cash or Casualty does look very well handicapped. Fitness my only concern but its a bit of a long round trip for the trainer just for a gallop so I hope he's ready .I'm following you two.

    Would never have looked at him but for sdoc13 & pc. Love it when a plan comes together. :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Doc for future it's very rare English sends out an unfit horse he's one of the ones I'd put faith in backing even after a break


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭gazza1


    gazza1 wrote: »
    I backed NOW LET GO 5.45 carlisle last night at 7/4 pp for crawford and is 11/10 now.
    hopefully he does the biz
    gl

    That will do nicely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭sdoc13


    Doc for future it's very rare English sends out an unfit horse he's one of the ones I'd put faith in backing even after a break

    Cheers PC will take note of that would have been 5 pts win if I was confident in the fitness. Still good return. Had another .5 pts today at the 16s as well so delighted.

    One other horse that looks well handicapped from that race is Prince Jock. Needs Gd ground though. Have put it in the tracker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Another one of Aidan's hot pots beaten out of sight in the maiden, when will people learn. A horse who went off 3/1 for the racing post trophy was beaten about 20 lengths at the curragh last week in a maiden. Absolute lunatics backing them this early or just clueless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    jimjamcos wrote: »
    In fairness, most of AOB's have been drifting massively as everyone knows they need the first run. The Warrior drifted like a barge last Sunday but still won so highly doubt there's anything corrupt in it.
    The favourite goes to being the absolute outsider before the off - very rare you see that kind of drift on a horse. But you're right, Aidan O'Brien's stable is beyond reproach, i if anything I should be banned for raising such a prestigious character in Irish racing into disrepute. There is absolutely no way that certain folks knew this one had no chance and laid it to be the outsider in this race :P

    FYI - I had no pony in that race, was just watching for today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭jimjamcos


    Another one of Aidan's hot pots beaten out of sight in the maiden, when will people learn. A horse who went off 3/1 for the racing post trophy was beaten about 20 lengths at the curragh last week in a maiden. Absolute lunatics backing them this early or just clueless

    Beyond bonkers. AOB currently has the strong fav for 2000 Guineas and Derby, Gleneagles - beaten 4th at 11/8 on debut and JFK - beaten 2nd at 8/11 on debut. Even if they're potential stars (Australia beaten in his maiden too) they will never be trained to win fto.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,224 ✭✭✭jimjamcos


    The favourite goes to being the absolute outsider before the off - very rare you see that kind of drift on a horse. But you're right, Aidan O'Brien's stable is beyond reproach, i if anything I should be banned for raising such a prestigious character in Irish racing into disrepute. There is absolutely no way that certain folks knew this one had no chance and laid it to be the outsider in this race :P

    FYI - I had no pony in that race, was just watching for today.

    Do you honestly believe that Ballydoyle/Coolmore, or anyone associated with them have anything to gain from a horse drifting? As I said, The Warrior opened at 5/4 last Saturday night, drifted like a barge on Sunday, touching 3/1 before winning cozily at 11/4. Having run credibly in a Dewhurst it was clearly assumed, like the rest, that he'd need the run. Nothing wrong with that IMO. As PC has said, up to punters to have enough cop-on to leave them alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,931 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    jimjamcos wrote: »
    Do you honestly believe that Ballydoyle/Coolmore, or anyone associated with them have anything to gain from a horse drifting?
    The immediate connections (O'Brien, Magnier, Tabor, etc.) - no.

    Work riders, stable staff, hanger's on - yes. It's the second lot who are backing/laying O'Brien's horses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    The immediate connections (O'Brien, Magnier, Tabor, etc.) - no.

    Work riders, stable staff, hanger's on - yes. It's the second lot who are backing/laying O'Brien's horses.

    I doubt it to be honest. Everybody and their dog knows that O'brien struggles to get winners for the first few weeks of the season. They are an easy lay for anybody really, its the same every year. The bookies price them up at miserable odds first show, like all of his horses, but then the regular layers push the price out.

    The corruption angle is the exciting idea but its really not that interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 kccfc


    Heard word for beach action 4:30 musselburgh tomorrowðŸ‘Â


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭BumperD


    I've always hated Musselburgh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 njcarkery


    anyone fancy sir ector 3-55 fairyhouse monday


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