Amir Khan v Chris Algieri May 30th

Underground

supersean1999 wrote: »

Amir khan v chris algieri may 30th . Khans chin being protected again.

"You can class him as an A-Class opponent."

No Amir, I won't be doing any such thing. :rolleyes:

weemcd

Wish Amir Khan would fúck off. Would really be happy to see him kay'od and retire

Deiseboy01

From his perspective its a sensible keep busy fight and one he should win easily. Not a fans fight though.

boxer.fan

Wonder why he didn't get matched with Provodnikov, mathysse, Garcia or Maidana?

HigginsJ

boxer.fan wrote: »

Wonder why he didn't get matched with Provodnikov, mathysse, Garcia or Maidana?

Baffling indeed

He really is cherry picking them at the moment.

walshb

boxer.fan wrote: »

Wonder why he didn't get matched with Provodnikov, mathysse, Garcia or Maidana?

Stating the obvious here, but he'd likely get sparked by all, even Maidan this time around.

boxer.fan

walshb wrote: »

Stating the obvious here, but he'd likely get sparked by all, even Maidan this time around.

I agree totally. Anyone with any sort of pop is likely to find the target at least once over twelve rounds

Talib Fiasco

I think he'd probably beat Garcia in a rematch. Garcia is a shade of the man who beat Matthysse.

Deiseboy01

In fairness to Khan there are three huge money fights out there for him, mayweather, pacman and brook. No way is he going to risk that type of payday by fighting those lads.

Great division though, a mini league at welter would be fabulous entertainment.

For the record I think he beats all of those on his best night. If he moves fast and keeps moving!

Underground

Haha he had a Facebook post announcing the fight and removed it within the first hour of uploading it.

supersean1999

Dan rafael. Says ibf wanted bradley and khan to fight . Khan refused. Frankie gavin next in line

HigginsJ

supersean1999 wrote: »

Dan rafael. Says ibf wanted bradley and khan to fight . Khan refused. Frankie gavin next in line

Yea saw that ok, you could see why he wouldn't bother with that one as it was a no win. If he wanted the Brook fight it was there for him, he didn't have to fight for it and Bradley is a seriously good opponent.

It's also likely that Gavin won't have to fight to get a shot at the title as he is managed by Hearn and he can just set it up as a voluntary for Brook.

When it does happen Brook vs Bradley would be a good fight.

Emmo-m-

"I wanna fight the big names" OK so you fight a 140 fighter with 1 fight at 147 which he was knocked down 8 times and lost every round. Good job Amir!

God , I can't wait for Brook to smash and retire him! Even Showtime refused the fight , more than likely will be shown on Haymon's PBC now instead , which will give him a bit more exposure I suppose. Seen as he barely sold 4k tickets in his last fight.

walshb

Emmo-m- wrote: »

"I wanna fight the big names" OK so you fight a 140 fighter with 1 fight at 147 which he was knocked down 8 times and lost every round. Good job Amir!

God , I can't wait for Brook to smash and retire him! Even Showtime refused the fight , more than likely will be shown on Haymon's PBC now instead , which will give him a bit more exposure I suppose. Seen as he barely sold 4k tickets in his last fight.

Barring a Brook KO, which is not overly likely, I reckon Khan is way too fast and busy for Brook.

As to Garcia-Khan 2nd time around, yes, Khan could get the job done, but he'd have to be ever so careful.

Emmo-m-

walshb wrote: »

Barring a Brook KO, which is not overly likely, I reckon Khan is way too fast and busy for Brook.

As to Garcia-Khan 2nd time around, yes, Khan could get the job done, but he'd have to be ever so careful.

Timing beats speed every time. A couple of rounds in and Brook gets his timing and start to hit Khan on those "whiskers" as he likes to say , there's only one outcome I can see. But don't get me wrong it will be a tough fight for both.

I just cannot stand Khan , this attitude saying people need to earn a shot against him , particularly Brook who is world champion does my head in. Coming from a man who has 2 losses from his last 6 and has only beaten bums at Welterweight since he moved up.

I really hope the winner on May 2nd goes on to unify the division by fighting Brook and bypassing A Mere Con.

Chrissybhoy

This fight is about right for Khan he found his level.

Henno30

Algieri is as famous now as he's ever likely to be (coming off a ppv bout), he's feather fisted, and he's stylistically right for Khan. It's the perfect fight really.

But it underlines the fact that the people behind Khan have no faith in him whatsoever, and it's simply a matter of getting him soft fights until either Manny or Floyd are stuck for an opponent.

I really hope he never gets that ppv fight now. It would be a terrible example to spread within the sport.

dulux99

If you watch the video khan uploaded, announcing the fight, he says that Pacman beating Algieri was the catalyst for the Mayweather fight. Delusional.

walshb

Emmo-m- wrote: »

Timing beats speed every time. A couple of rounds in and Brook gets his timing and start to hit Khan on those "whiskers" as he likes to say , there's only one outcome I can see. But don't get me wrong it will be a tough fight for both.

I just cannot stand Khan , this attitude saying people need to earn a shot against him , particularly Brook who is world champion does my head in. Coming from a man who has 2 losses from his last 6 and has only beaten bums at Welterweight since he moved up.

I really hope the winner on May 2nd goes on to unify the division by fighting Brook and bypassing A Mere Con.

Love him or hate him he can be compulsive viewing.

Emmo-m-

walshb wrote: »

Love him or hate him he can be compulsive viewing.

No doubt. I pray for a Prescott repeat some day soon! Very complusive viewing :cool:

walshb

Emmo-m- wrote: »

Timing beats speed every time.

Every time when it works!:)

Talib Fiasco

To be fair to Khan his resume is ten times better than Brooks. Brook hasn't fought a legit boxer yet. Porter was a complete hype job, a guy who probably won't be boxing in five years time. Brook has fought bums his whole career. He's obviously a great boxer but he still hasn't fought a top opponent. Khan has fought several and beaten a good few of them. Not bad for an apparently "glass jawed con" who you must remember started at lightweight compared to Brook a welterweight his whole career. Give Khan some slack. He's far more gutsy than a lot of other welters out there

boxer.fan

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

To be fair to Khan his resume is ten times better than Brooks. Brook hasn't fought a legit boxer yet. Porter was a complete hype job, a guy who probably won't be boxing in five years time. Brook has fought bums his whole career. He's obviously a great boxer but he still hasn't fought a top opponent. Khan has fought several and beaten a good few of them. Not bad for an apparently "glass jawed con" who you must remember started at lightweight compared to Brook a welterweight his whole career. Give Khan some slack. He's far more gutsy than a lot of other welters out there

No doubt Khan's resume is better than Brook's. However Khans best wins came at lower weights. Everyone is aware of his dodgy chin now, it's been exposed numerous times.

I hope I'm wrong but I reckon Khan's career will be brought to a halt if he meets one of the names I mentioned earlier.

walshb

It's just that of late his fights and foes seem to be very managed!

Brook has fought one decent fighter, Porter. BTW, Porter would be hell for Khan. Strong and attack minded with heavy enough hands. I don't think Khan contains him. Porter would walk through him and knock him out or stop him.

Johner

boxer.fan wrote: »

I hope I'm wrong but I reckon Khan's career will be brought to a halt if he meets one of the names I mentioned earlier.

It's quite simple really, Khan won't fight anyone who can dig. He's holding out for the Mayweather fight and a loss in the meantime pretty much rules that fight out. The Mayweather fight is a win-win situation for Khan, it's a huge pay day in a fight he actually has an okay chance of causing an upset and a loss wouldn't damage him unless it was a heavy KO which at this stage of Mayweathers career probably wouldn't happen. The Brook fight would still be a big fight even after a loss to Floyd for Khan.

Johner

walshb wrote: »

It's just that of late his fights and foes seem to be very managed!

It's purely with the possible Mayweather fight in mind, Khan has a better chance of beating Floyd than he does beating the lads in the division that can bang and him and his team know it.

Johner

The Bradley fight is one I thought Khan might actually go for though, Bradley would be a big name to have on Khan's CV and I think he could out box Bradley who wouldn't really carry a KO threat.

poeticmakaveli

He won't even mention Thurman's name! Thurman would knock him spark out with his power and better yet, Thurman is just as fast and has better footwork than khan so it he is dominated in all areas!
He is on his last now and he is staying away from big hitters as long as he can!

Talib Fiasco

The fact Khan survived against Maidana, p4p one of the hardest hitting guys in the sport, a guy who was close to having Floyd on queer street tells me that Khan isn't as brittle as he is portrayed. Sure he has been KO'd but on the hands of a certified KO artist in Prescott and to Garcia who has arguably the best left hook in the sport. Khan certainly isn't iron chinned but he gets awful undeserved stick at times

walshb

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

The fact Khan survived against Maidana, p4p one of the hardest hitting guys in the sport, a guy who was close to having Floyd on queer street tells me that Khan isn't as brittle as he is portrayed. Sure he has been KO'd but on the hands of a certified KO artist in Prescott and to Garcia who has arguably the best left hook in the sport. Khan certainly isn't iron chinned but he gets awful undeserved stick at times

I agree. Folks can be far too OTT with him. It's a lot to do with fans and their views of him the person. You will always get that with boxing fans and boxers. They get engrossed far too easily and cannot separate the man from the boxer. As a boxer I admire him a lot. I am well aware of his flaws, as we all are, but the guy deserves a lot of kudos for entertaining us in some really good fights. So he talks a bit and bigs himself up. Is there any boxer who doesn't? Most of them are "cocky" and most portray a view of their talents that is inflated. It's been like that for years. It's what makes boxers different than any other sports men.

Halloween Jack

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

The fact Khan survived against Maidana, p4p one of the hardest hitting guys in the sport, a guy who was close to having Floyd on queer street tells me that Khan isn't as brittle as he is portrayed. Sure he has been KO'd but on the hands of a certified KO artist in Prescott and to Garcia who has arguably the best left hook in the sport. Khan certainly isn't iron chinned but he gets awful undeserved stick at times

I think his career has definitely suffered from the accusation too, take the maidana fight, if he'd have stuck to his game plan instead of trying to prove he could go toe to toe in a war it would have been a one sided fight... It seems to play on his mind and he ends up engaging instead of boxing...

walshb

supersean1999 wrote: »

Dan rafael. Says ibf wanted bradley and khan to fight . Khan refused. Frankie gavin next in line

Oh god, spare us Gavin. He should be forcibly retired to protect the public!

walshb

Halloween Jack wrote: »

I think his career has definitely suffered from the accusation too, take the maidana fight, if he'd have stuck to his game plan instead of trying to prove he could go toe to toe in a war it would have been a one sided fight... It seems to play on his mind and he ends up engaging instead of boxing...

That's a bit too simplistic. He did what he did in the ring at that time. He had to win. To win you have to engage. Khan's way of winning is by throwing shots and engaging. That's his style. He did enough disengaging as well to protect himself when he needed. I don't think it's as simple to state that simply sticking to a game plan would have made it a one sided fight. There's two men in there. Game plans are not black and white. Very complex and subjective. Boxing involves more close contact and engaging that any sport on earth. Sometimes you have to move out of your comfort zone and adapt and adjust. The foe isn't going to always cooperate with your game plan.

Johner

poeticmakaveli wrote: »

He won't even mention Thurman's name! Thurman would knock him spark out with his power and better yet, Thurman is just as fast and has better footwork than khan so it he is dominated in all areas!
He is on his last now and he is staying away from big hitters as long as he can!

Yeah, Thurman is most definitely all wrong for Khan. Hugely impressed with him so far.

Talib Fiasco

poeticmakaveli wrote: »

He won't even mention Thurman's name! Thurman would knock him spark out with his power and better yet, Thurman is just as fast and has better footwork than khan so it he is dominated in all areas!
He is on his last now and he is staying away from big hitters as long as he can!

Just no. Big fan of Thurman myself but he is a snail compared to Khan, most boxers are. Khan is arguably the fastest current boxer along with Russell and Gamboa. Thurman is a solid boxer as well as a fantastic puncher but nobody at 147 , not even Manny or Floyd can mess with Khan's speed

Mallagio

Showtime not showing this tripe in the states.

Talib Fiasco

Mallagio wrote: »

Showtime not showing this tripe in the states.

Bit of a cop out from Showtime thinking they're doing a Boxing a favour by not promoting a so called cherry pick....even though they showed Garcia/Salka and made it out like Garcia had dethroned an ATG.

Mallagio

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Bit of a cop out from Showtime thinking they're doing a Boxing a favour by not promoting a so called cherry pick....even though they showed Garcia/Salka and made it out like Garcia had dethroned an ATG.

Lets be honest here, I can't blame Showtime - this bout is toothless.

Talib Fiasco

I personally think this could be a FOTY candidate especially seeing Algieri actually has a proper trainer now.

Henno30

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Bit of a cop out from Showtime thinking they're doing a Boxing a favour by not promoting a so called cherry pick....even though they showed Garcia/Salka and made it out like Garcia had dethroned an ATG.

That was when Espinoza was still hoping they could hold onto Haymon and his stable. That ship has sailed now and they're back to valuing fights in a manner that's somewhat related to reality.

poeticmakaveli

Talib Fiasco wrote:

Just no. Big fan of Thurman myself but he is a snail compared to Khan, most boxers are. Khan is arguably the fastest current boxer along with Russell and Gamboa. Thurman is a solid boxer as well as a fantastic puncher but nobody at 147 , not even Manny or Floyd can mess with Khan's speed

I think Thurman owns the ring easy with khan, and please don't tell me you think khan would beat Thurman because that would be just crazy!!
Talk is cheap but I would put my life on it and I am genuine that khan wouldnt even see the 12th round with Thurman!!! Its actually not even up for discussion, sorry!!

poeticmakaveli

I give khan for credit for beating maidana (even though his rubbery legs barely made it back to the corner at the end) and zab Judah, devon Alexander,hmmm maybe! Paulie malignaggi was tailor made for khan, malignaggi wouldn't knock out my 11 year old niece! Collazo?? Please! Like the dude but I don't give credit for that for the hype that surrounds khan! Khan was lucky against Julio Diaz (someone he should be beating easy if we are to believe the hype again) can't mention Barrera really as he was an old beaten up man! I don't care who a boxer is outside the ring ,I will always give credit where credit is due! Khan looks the part when he is let and has the right opponents in front of him, but he is another accident again waiting to happen!! Prescott and garcia knocked him out silly! Sky have pumped in so much money,hype,etc around him that he still is a household name,but Virgil hunter and his managers will be cleverly picking his next couple fights! Algieri?,cmon now! He done well to get the win against provodnikov but khan won't have to worry about his power so he will be getting the handy victory there. I call a spade a spade always but khan is a hype job, not a bad fighter,in fact a gutsy one and has some lovely skills but more hype than anything else and a bad accident waiting to happen providing he is not going to be handpicked fights for the next while!

Underground

As much as I denounce Khan as a chancer and a spoofer, he can be lovely to watch and I never miss any of his fights.

Talib Fiasco

poeticmakaveli wrote: »

I think Thurman owns the ring easy with khan, and please don't tell me you think khan would beat Thurman because that would be just crazy!!
Talk is cheap but I would put my life on it and I am genuine that khan wouldnt even see the 12th round with Thurman!!! Its actually not even up for discussion, sorry!!

Calm down buddy I never mentioned Khan beating Thurman anywhere. Quit changing topic. I just pointed out the blatant flaw in your post which said Thurman is faster than Khan. Simply not true. If you beg to differ, this discussion isn't worth my time sorry.

HigginsJ

Khan is now saying the Algieri fight is not confirmed, apparently still in negotiation with Broner as well. A cynic would suggest that he & his team have seen the negative reaction to the announcement & are now rowing back on their decision.

Henno30

HigginsJ wrote: »

Khan is now saying the Algieri fight is not confirmed, apparently still in negotiation with Broner as well. A cynic would suggest that he & his team have seen the negative reaction to the announcement & are now rowing back on their decision.

Showtime rejected it. Khan had a massive whinge earlier where he accused Hearn of spreading lies about him, that Showtime hadn't rejected the fight, and that he hadn't turned down any eliminator against Bradley from the IBF because he hadn't been offered one.

Dan Rafael then confirmed on twitter that he had heard directly from Showtime and the IBF that both stories were true.

Khan is making a right cunt of himself. He'd be better off saying nothing, he's nowhere near smart enough to play those games in public.

Underground

I just read the interview there, same old tripe from him. I really don't like how he uses Ramadan as an excuse for not fighting Brook in June. Call me a cynic, but something tells me if Floyd asked him for a fight in June, Ramadan would suddenly take a backseat in his list of priorities.

Mallagio

Underground wrote: »

I just read the interview there, same old tripe from him. I really don't like how he uses Ramadan as an excuse for not fighting Brook in June. Call me a cynic, but something tells me if Floyd asked him for a fight in June, Ramadan would suddenly take a backseat in his list of priorities.

Yep, the reality with Khan is that he thinks he is a genius and can beat anyone. Brook would have too much for him imo

efb

Its on Spike TV
Spike TV, Not on Sky Irl but FTA.
Tune in 10.964 H, 22.000, 5/6, DVB-S, QPSK.

HigginsJ

efb wrote: »

Its on Spike TV
Spike TV, Not on Sky Irl but FTA.
Tune in 10.964 H, 22.000, 5/6, DVB-S, QPSK.

:P That's the high profile fight Khan was after.

Panic E

Here's a good monologue about this upcoming fight and all the related angles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwX2nzEvZI

Floyd, Manny, GGG, Bradley, Thurman, Brook, Garcia, Ramadan the rest of it