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Architect problems

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    #32
    minktrapper
    Registered Users Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    the_syco wrote: »
    The following is not a criticism levelled at you, but as a reason why people charge for each alteration, instead of charging more at the start.

    If you're in the business long enough, you'll find out that if you give something to someone for free, it'll be abused. Some people do change their mind constantly, and the best way to counter this is to ensure that you charge them for each alteration. Well, in web design anyway, but I'd say it's the same for architects as well.

    Agree with you totally.


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    #33
    RORY O CONNOR
    Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭RORY O CONNOR


    +1.

    If you do something for free it is not valued-important to always charge something.


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    #34
    Dr_Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭Dr_Bill


    I think the key thing missing is an agreed scope of works from the outset outlining the costs and setting the expectations with the Client from the start. If the Client is looking to go through the planning process all costs should have been defined, in this instance it doesn't seem as if that happened so it appears to look like death by a thousand cuts and results in ill-feeling which is a shame.

    The architect is right to charge for their time for design changes. Depending on the size of the project it may not be cost effective to engage an architect and it may be better to work with a builder?


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    #35
    Strolling Bones
    Registered Users Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Strolling Bones


    Change your mind with a builder to truly find out what "extra" means....


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    #36
    Dr_Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭Dr_Bill


    Strolling Bones wrote: »
    Change your mind with a builder to truly find out what "extra" means....

    Which again is fair enough! Imagine a Client asks the builder to just knock the wall they have just constructed and have it moved?

    You pay for the wall to be built in time and materials, then you pay for it be knocked and again for it to be rebuilt. The builder is not going to absorb that cost and why should they?

    The difficulty for architects and builders is the majority of their Clients cannot visualise in 3D and hence appreciate what they going to get when the walls go up, the space looks small and congested, Client is not happy makes changes and the costs start to rise.

    In instances like the above on a decent size project a good architect will work with you and actually save you money in the longer term as design changes during construction are expensive. Its easy to move walls and change design in CAD, make a few models and visualisations and pay a couple of hundred € rather than hand over thousands in extras during the construction phase!


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