Landlord to buy bed?

Help!!!!

Ok moved into property & there was 2 single beds, which we pushed together to make a double bed. We been there a year & were thinking a double bed would be better as the 2 singles are old & squeak.
Is it up to the LL to provide a double bed? We are a married couple

Gatling

Help!!!! wrote: »

Ok moved into property & there was 2 single beds, which we pushed together to make a double bed. We been there a year & were thinking a double bed would be better as the 2 singles are old & squeak.
Is it up to the LL to provide a double bed? We are a married couple

Buy your own

Help!!!!

Gatling wrote: »

Buy your own

But what do we do with the 2 singles? Theres no room to keep them

Dia1988

Help!!!! wrote: »

But what do we do with the 2 singles? Theres no room to keep them

Adverts.ie

ABajaninCork

Dia1988 wrote: »

Adverts.ie

With the LL's permission, of course!!

Dia1988

ABajaninCork wrote: »

With the LL's permission, of course!!

What 2 single beds Landlord? :-P

owen85

our landlord bought us a new mattress when we asked him to.
other people when they move into a house/ apartment ask for new mattresses and get them.

some landlords say no, some yes.
ask, say the reason and see what happens. worst answer is he says no.
in that case ask him to can he remove the old beds. leave it up to him then to decide is it really worth not buying a new bed for the place.

ABajaninCork

Seriously, though. OP - this should have been raised with the LL in the beginning before you moved in. Did you ever ask him to remove/provide a double bed?

I'd write to the LL, explain you're a married couple who'd like a double bed and ask him to remove the singles. Buy your own bed, and leave it at that.

Help!!!!

It wasn't brought up at the start because we weren't originally going to stay past 6 months but we have started to like the place & area so are going to stay longer.
I was going to ask next week but thought id ask first

Mrs OBumble

Ask, in person or by phone. DON'T start by putting things in writing, keep that for if things go bad in dealing with the LL.

Milly33

Yep I was just going to say the time to mention it would have been when ye were moving in. It there was two singles and it said it then it is kinda tough. Ye will have to get yer own bed. Of course ask the landlord maybe if he could take the others but if not then ye will have to find someplace to put them.

I know we wanted a new mattress as the one we got was pretty shocking, but we got our own. When it came to getting rid of a double bed as it wasn't needed we asked him and he said to do what we wanted but twas at our

delthedriver

Sometimes I wonder are tenants simply taking the p...?


I think some of them expect the landlord to turn down the duvet for them at night and give them breakfast in bed.


Having been a tenant in my early adult life, I most certainly never demanded anything from my landlords. My rent was always paid in advance and I treated the property with the same respect as if my own.

ABajaninCork

I do think tenants here are too spoon-fed. Having said that, it is what it is, and the law says that the LL has to supply certain furnishings, no matter how poor the quality is. I suggested putting the request in writing, so there will be a record. It DOES NOT mean the tenant's getting stroppy...

If it's something small, then I simply buy my own - lift and shift!!

delthedriver

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I do think tenants here are too spoon-fed. Having said that, it is what it is, and the law says that the LL has to supply certain furnishings, no matter how poor the quality is. I suggested putting the request in writing, so there will be a record. It DOES NOT mean the tenant's getting stroppy...

If it's something small, then I simply buy my own - lift and shift!!

There is a huge amount of spoon feeding !


The vast majority of tenants are fine people, there is a segment who are simply a waste of space !

the_syco

Help!!!! wrote: »

Is it up to the LL to provide a double bed?

No. You can ask, and you may get one, but it may be the cheapest one he could find.

Or it could be one that he had in storage from before he had two single beds in your house....!

fussyonion

When I was privately renting, we went out and bought our own mattress.
We bought exactly the one we wanted and then when we left, we just took it with us.
Do that maybe?

aido79

Personally for something like a bed which I was going to sleep in every night there is no way I would rely on someone else to choose it for me. Just ask the landlord to remove the beds that are there and get yourself a new bed. A landlord is under no obligation to provide a bed for you:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting_a_home/repairs_maintenance_and_minimum_physical_standards.html

ted1

Help!!!! wrote: »

Ok moved into property & there was 2 single beds, which we pushed together to make a double bed. We been there a year & were thinking a double bed would be better as the 2 singles are old & squeak.
Is it up to the LL to provide a double bed? We are a married couple

No? Why would you even think that he does?

the_syco

You'll be spending about 240 hours a month on it. Spend the cash, and buy it yourself. And as above, bring it with you when you go.

I got a Sealy from beds.ie, and they have doubles from €350, but BigMickey talks about a sale they're doing in their Longford warehouse, and he can answer any questions he has.

Help!!!!

ABajaninCork wrote: »

I do think tenants here are too spoon-fed. Having said that, it is what it is, and the law says that the LL has to supply certain furnishings, no matter how poor the quality is. I suggested putting the request in writing, so there will be a record. It DOES NOT mean the tenant's getting stroppy...

If it's something small, then I simply buy my own - lift and shift!!

Spoon fed?? Firstly I asked the question should the LL buy the bed....no where did I say we were not willing to buy the bed ourselves.
All I wanted was advice

Help!!!!

delthedriver wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder are tenants simply taking the p...?


I think some of them expect the landlord to turn down the duvet for them at night and give them breakfast in bed.


Having been a tenant in my early adult life, I most certainly never demanded anything from my landlords. My rent was always paid in advance and I treated the property with the same respect as if my own.

I am not demanding anything, all I'm asking is it the LL responsibility to supply a double bed or whether it is our responsibility? & also what to do with the 2 single beds. I was asking for advice not to get crucified

ABajaninCork

Help!!!! wrote: »

Spoon fed?? Firstly I asked the question should the LL buy the bed....no where did I say we were not willing to buy the bed ourselves.
All I wanted was advice

Read what I wrote. I said 'TENANTS', of which I am one. I did not say 'HELP!!!!'.

I stand by what I wrote. Instead of asking for (and probably getting) a crappy mattress, be proactive and buy one. It'll your backs that'll thank you, not mine. As Fussy Onion says, you can take it with you when you leave.

That was my advice.

mel123

Best thing to do is buy one yourself. As someone else said, if the LL is buying one, he is going to buy a cheap one. Spend your own cash and buy a nice comfy one to suit, you will have it for years no matter when you leave the house you are currently renting.

antoinolachtnai

The big issue is the storage of the old beds. They are the landlord's and you have to keep them. It is unlikely the landlord will want to store them for you if there is no space in the house itself. I know one property where the size of the attic opening was increased so beds could be hooshed up and down, definitely a worthwhile project for a landlord (but you have to be very careful putting beds up and down).

tharmor

We already have replaced one mattress, got new coffee table, toaster etc....why call landlord when rentals are increasing day by day and when u r on rolling contract....:p !!

Monife

the_syco wrote: »

No. You can ask, and you may get one, but it may be the cheapest one he could find.

Or it could be one that he had in storage from before he had two single beds in your house....!

I have asked two previous landlords for a new mattress as the older ones were in bits and causing back pain and both times I got old ones they had in storage, one was even a few inches too small for the base.

Our current place, the landlord put in new beds because the last tenants wrecked the place but of course they are the cheapest of the cheap so we dismantled the bed and stored it away (mattress in the spare room) and bought our own superking bed

Personally I'd be asking the LL. I wouldn't have any interest in putting my own money into something that should be provided. I've only ever used the provided mattresses in places I've been, my current one is fine and if I didn't move from my previous place I was going to be asking for a new one.

Yeah you can bring it with you but it may not be suitable for the bed in your next place (too big/small) and if I was buying a place the bed I would be getting would be almost certainly too big for any rental sized mattress.

Same as the above for an entire bed.

skallywag

Sariyah Howling Rucksack wrote: »

I wouldn't have any interest in putting my own money into something that should be provided

There were already beds provided when the OP moved in over a year ago, with no complaint forthcoming in that period. What would make you think that a double bed should now be 'provided'?

Black_Knight

Since ive moved to Dublin and left behind my college years, ive never moved into a place with a good mattress. Of the 4 places ive lived in Dublin, 1 had a barely acceptable mattress.

In 2 of the places I inquired with the agency about getting a replacement mattress which always required some level of justification. Telling them "mattresses shouldn't fold in half, never-mind thirds" always seemed to work. Both times bargain town were used, for a bargain basement price, but at least a new firm mattress was installed.

The third mattress was in a total dive of a place, so I left before Mattress Mick was called in.

My biggest problem with buying our own mattress is A) will my current place remove the existing mattress and will my my future place remove their mattress.

jgorres

Seek legal advice from a lawyer and sue the LL.

aido79

Sariyah Howling Rucksack wrote: »

Personally I'd be asking the LL. I wouldn't have any interest in putting my own money into something that should be provided. I've only ever used the provided mattresses in places I've been, my current one is fine and if I didn't move from my previous place I was going to be asking for a new one.

Yeah you can bring it with you but it may not be suitable for the bed in your next place (too big/small) and if I was buying a place the bed I would be getting would be almost certainly too big for any rental sized mattress.

Same as the above for an entire bed.

A landlord is under absolutely no obligation to provide a bed.

aido79

aido79 wrote: »

A landlord is under absolutely no obligation to provide a bed.

Yes they are If they are renting a furnished property.

aido79

Sariyah Howling Rucksack wrote: »

Yes they are If they are renting a furnished property.

Legally they could probably put a sleeping bag or a blow up mattress in every bedroom. I just don't see why someone would go through night after night of poor sleeping and risk of back pain just because they aren't satisfied with a bed that was provided by the landlord.

Arbiter of Good Taste

Sariyah Howling Rucksack wrote: »

Yes they are If they are renting a furnished property.

Beds were provided in the property - two single beds and the OP was happy to accept them. The landlord is under no obligation to provide beds to the tenants' exact specifications.

OP as someone who suffers terribly from back pain, invest in your own bed.

I got double beds for our two spare bedrooms in the Arnotts warehouse sale. At €550 each, they were half price and they are excellent beds. I don't know when the next warehouse sale is.

Teyla Emmagan

My Dad rents a couple of apartments. Has often had requests to change beds (swap a double out for 2 singles or whatever). If the tenants are good, he always obliges. Is not a big deal after all?

tonyheaney

Op we live in a RAZ house and there were 2 single beds a small double and a normal(ish) double. Through our property manager we requested the all beds removed ASAP (though not all at the same time). we bought a small double bed for our daughter and eventually moved that in to the small bedroom and bought bunk beds for the kids (we have 2 kids boy and girl) all bed were bought by us.

the_syco

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

My Dad rents a couple of apartments. Has often had requests to change beds (swap a double out for 2 singles or whatever). If the tenants are good, he always obliges. Is not a big deal after all?

How much does he spend on the mattresses?

Lux23

I got a new bed in a couple of places, I nearly always ask for a fresh mattress when moving.

Skerries

just a question but would people be willing to pay towards a good mattress along with the landlord if they are going to be staying there a while, even if they have to leave it there?

Monife

Skerries wrote: »

just a question but would people be willing to pay towards a good mattress along with the landlord if they are going to be staying there a while, even if they have to leave it there?

No. I'd rather buy it myself and get to keep it.

beauf

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

My Dad rents a couple of apartments. Has often had requests to change beds (swap a double out for 2 singles or whatever). If the tenants are good, he always obliges. Is not a big deal after all?

That depends if you have the ability/resources to move and store beds. Or the desire to buy and sell beds every-time a tenant changes.

wandatowell

I cannot understand why landlords get fussy about buying their tennants decent quality gear for the house.

Isn't everything they buy for the house tax deductible?

athtrasna

wandatowell wrote: »

I cannot understand why landlords get fussy about buying their tennants decent quality gear for the house.

Isn't everything they buy for the house tax deductible?

Over 8 years!

beauf

wandatowell wrote: »

I cannot understand why landlords get fussy about buying their tennants decent quality gear for the house.

Isn't everything they buy for the house tax deductible?

Doesn't make economic sense as

its gets trashed.
Tenants always want to change it.
(One wants two singles, the next a double)
There a costs to change it.

The alternative is to rent unfurnished.