Do you think Michael Jackson was a paedophile?

Melisandre121 · 22-03-2015 2:39am #1

Yes, no, maybe?

Lucifer MorningStar · 22-03-2015 2:40am

Flood · 22-03-2015 2:40am

I don't know maybe, can you repeat the question?

FloatingVoter · 22-03-2015 2:42am

I believe it's 2.42 in the morning and you may need to find something else to worry about.

Satriale · 22-03-2015 2:43am

You know he was bad, was bad, was bad, bad.

Melisandre121 · 22-03-2015 2:43am

FloatingVoter wrote: »

I believe it's 2.42 in the morning and you may need to find something else to worry about.

2:42 is the perfect time to worry about these things.

FloatingVoter · 22-03-2015 2:45am

Melisandre121 wrote: »

2:42 is the perfect time to worry about these things.

I assume this thread is about General Sir Mike Jackson, ex-C-in_C of the British Army and now Sky News pundit. I know of no other Michael Jackson.

Mr. Incognito · 22-03-2015 3:04am

I like jimmy carrs take, im not saying he was a billionaire paedophile but if i was a billionaire paedophile i would build disneyland in my garden too.

FloatingVoter · 22-03-2015 3:07am

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I like jimmy carrs take, im not saying he was a billionaire paedophile but if i was a billionaire paedophile i would build disneyland in my garden too.

The inland revenue is very interested in Jimmy Carr's take too. Get onto them if you have any identity which account its hiding in.

Eugene Norman · 22-03-2015 3:43am

I think he was a man-child. Possibly asexual.

Simi · 22-03-2015 3:57am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpaQpyU_QiM

Macavity. · 22-03-2015 3:59am

Well yes, but the worst part was he never called back! No, but in all seriousness, yeah, he was actually pretty aggressive.

kjl · 22-03-2015 4:05am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkCqXMCLbaQ

it has greek subs but worth the 3 mins.

dubscottie · 22-03-2015 4:09am

While there was proof, the man is dead so we will never know..

Anyone got pics of fluffy cats..

Flood · 22-03-2015 4:13am

dubscottie wrote: »

While there was proof, the man is dead so we will never know..

he may be alive in another life.

kneemos · 22-03-2015 5:06am

Probably a child,a paedophile would be clever enough not to have a kids sleepover.

Dolbert · 22-03-2015 5:23am

I was on the fence about it until I heard Terry George talking about Michael Jackson's inappropriate phone calls to him way back in the 70s. He was really uncomfortable about it and didn't seem to like to talk about it. His parents apparently found out and banned him from calling again (he was only 13 at the time).

http://popdirt.com/terry-george-forgives-michael-jackson-for-masturbation-call/74537/

Edit: I think it was on the Louis Theroux documentary

dodderangler · 22-03-2015 8:39am

He wasn't right in the head put it that way.
Any other "adult" acting like that would've been Locked up or sent to mental hospital.
And yet he was celebrated for it and world mourned when he died?
He was a sick man! Very sick man

Omackeral · 22-03-2015 8:43am

Nooo, that's ignorant!

Omackeral · 22-03-2015 8:44am

Also, I can't think of a more apt time to use the popcorn gif....

Oink · 22-03-2015 9:20am

If he was a pedo, there are parents out there who accepted money rather than to drag him through the courts.I don't know the circumstances, but I'm ashamed on their behalf.

vienne86 · 22-03-2015 9:28am

I dunno......but he sure was one hell of a strange guy.

suicide_circus · 22-03-2015 9:42am

He was a weird man child who used his fame and wealth to get access to young boys and then tried to pay them off.

Katgurl · 22-03-2015 9:45am

Yes, I absolutely do.

No doubt he believed he was a child too, he wasn't doing anything wrong, they were just playing together...

But I do believe he was an adult who had inappropriate sexual contact with children.

I also think he was a very sad character, no chance at happiness, the stories of his childhood (if you could call it that) are heartbreaking.

FluffyAngel · 22-03-2015 9:52am

SEPT 23 1989 · 22-03-2015 10:18am

Americas Jimmy Savile

Speedsie · 22-03-2015 10:35am

FloatingVoter wrote: »

I assume this thread is about General Sir Mike Jackson, ex-C-in_C of the British Army and now Sky News pundit. I know of no other Michael Jackson.

Or the Most Reverend Michael Jackson, Archbishop of Dublin & Bishop of Glendalough, Primate of Ireland & Metropolitan?

YFlyer · 22-03-2015 11:19am

Satriale wrote: »

You know he was bad, was bad, was bad, bad.

Whose bad?

fleet_admiral · 22-03-2015 11:25am

I was absolutely shocked at the revelation about Jimmy Savile

I never knew there was only 1 L in his surname

Muahahaha · 22-03-2015 11:35am

Flood wrote: »

he may be alive in another life.

And God might have built the world in six days too

Tipsy McSwagger · 22-03-2015 12:30pm

Nope I don't believe it. Basically he was blackmailed by a few scummy parents whose children were told what to say so they could get as much money from him.

rottie 11 · 22-03-2015 12:39pm

I dont think so tbh

Jake Rugby Walrus666 · 22-03-2015 12:41pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM8EVIbNxk4

weldoninhio · 22-03-2015 1:16pm

Of course he was!!!

I can't believe the amount of people who believe his put-on public persona of a vulnerable man-child. This is a man who amassed a fortune, bought up the rights to the Beatles back catalogue and other business ventures. He was no more a man child than me.

It was all an act to prey on youngsters. The truth will come out and it won't be good for his legacy.

Dolbert · 22-03-2015 1:38pm

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Nope I don't believe it. Basically he was blackmailed by a few scummy parents whose children were told what to say so they could get as much money from him.

How do you explain Terry George then? His parents didn't ask for any money, they just put an immediate stop to their contact. He didn't molest him, but his 'heavy breathing' phone calls surely indicate more than a passing interest in young boys...

Galwayguy35 · 22-03-2015 2:17pm

I'm convinced he was.

If he was innocent why did he give that first kid $20 million to keep his mouth shut for the rest of his life.

And apart from that he was a weirdo anyway, better for his own kids that he died, keeping them locked up from the world and going around with their heads covered.

Tasden · 22-03-2015 2:28pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

And apart from that he was a weirdo anyway, better for his own kids that he died, keeping them locked up from the world and going around with their heads covered.

Didn't he only keep their heads covered when they were out in public with him so that they wouldn't be recognised when they were with minders doing normal things without their masks. They were able to live a somewhat normal life with minders etc because of it. Of all the things he did I thought that was the least weird thing he did tbh.

Galwayguy35 · 22-03-2015 2:35pm

Tasden wrote: »

Didn't he only keep their heads covered when they were out in public with him so that they wouldn't be recognised when they were with minders doing normal things without their masks. They were able to live a somewhat normal life with minders etc because of it. Of all the things he did I thought that was the least weird thing he did tbh.

He barely let them out at all, having little or no contact with the outside world is not a good way to grow up.

22-03-2015 2:47pm

I don't know if he was a paedophile, and I don't think anyone else on here does either. We know it looks like he was, and that he had bizarre and probably inappropriate relationships with pubescent kids that he didn't want publicised, but without a trial and evidence to evaluate, I don't think he should be tried and found guilty posthumously.

I wouldn't let him babysit if I had kids, and I think he seemed to have a lot of personal issues, but the only thing I know is that he was a very odd man who behaved oddly around kids.

ALiasEX · 22-03-2015 3:15pm

I have no reason to believe he was a molestor.

"It emerged that the boy, and his younger brother and older sister, had taken acting lessons ahead of a 2001 lawsuit against US retailer JC Penney. "

"In separate interviews with a social worker and a teacher after the airing of the Bashir documentary, Gavin denied he had been molested by Mr Jackson. "

"It was also suggested that she spent $7,000 (£3,800) shopping and dining out at the same time as she alleged Mr Jackson kept her and her family captive. "

"The credibility of 15-year-old cancer survivor Gavin Arvizo and his mother Janet was key to the case against Michael Jackson, who has been acquitted of child abuse and abduction charges by a California court."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4584531.stm

IvySlayer · 22-03-2015 4:08pm

He acted inappropriately around children yes, but I don't believe he was a child molester.

NegativeCreep · 22-03-2015 4:10pm

I don't think so and I actually don't care, I still love his songs regardless.

anncoates · 22-03-2015 4:11pm

Always got the feeling he was just a very damaged, regressed /childlike person that identified with children to a weird extent rather than a calculating, adult predator

Of course, like everybody else here, I'm not a professional nor do I know him so it's really only bit of specious, pop analysis based on a lifetime of media information.

Tipsy McSwagger · 22-03-2015 4:19pm

Dolbert wrote: »

How do you explain Terry George then? His parents didn't ask for any money, they just put an immediate stop to their contact. He didn't molest him, but his 'heavy breathing' phone calls surely indicate more than a passing interest in young boys...

We only have his word for it, and since the guy has such a seedy background I don't believe him.

Pwindedd · 22-03-2015 5:15pm

I think I don't want to believe it so like other people on here I've convinced myself he was some kind of Peter Pan boy-that-never-grew-up kinda weirdo, rather than a peadophile. If I was looking at exactly the same situation with a completely unknown billionaire doing the same thing I'd be all "lock him up and throw away the key"

We're never going to know the truth so Ive not thought about it much.

bb1234567 · 22-03-2015 5:40pm

I think he was a good guy, but people liked to make up rumours because he had a creepy voice and strange physical appearance and mannerisms.

professore · 22-03-2015 5:48pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

I think he was a good guy, but people liked to make up rumours because he had a creepy voice and strange physical appearance and mannerisms.

Ah like Jimmy Savile and Gary Glitter.

Call Me Jimmy · 22-03-2015 5:52pm

He was a deeply tortured soul but I don't actually think he was a nonce

El_Duderino 09 · 22-03-2015 6:04pm

anncoates wrote: »

Always got the feeling he was just a very damaged, regressed /childlike person that identified with children to a weird extent rather than a calculating, adult predator

Of course, like everybody else here, I'm not a professional nor do I know him so it's really only bit of specious, pop analysis based on a lifetime of media information.

He does seem to have a developmental delay from his really unusual childhood. As an adult he had appetites of both children and adults. It's perfectly possible that he engaged in childish sexual experimentation with children. It wouldn't have to be premeditated in order to be harmful to the children and rightly classed as sexual abuse .

BeerWolf · 22-03-2015 6:33pm

Weird yeah... but I honestly don't think he was a child fiddler. Imo, he was targeted for his money and parents coerced their kids to do just that.

Aidric · 22-03-2015 6:35pm

anncoates wrote: »

Always got the feeling he was just a very damaged, regressed /childlike person that identified with children to a weird extent rather than a calculating, adult predator

Of course, like everybody else here, I'm not a professional nor do I know him so it's really only bit of specious, pop analysis based on a lifetime of media information.

My thinking is pretty aligned with this. Jackson never got to live a normal childhood. He was centre stage in the faux world of a pop star from a very young age and couldn't possibly have emerged on the other side as a balanced and rounded young adult.

He never knew anything other than a life in the spotlight. I can only imagine what that would do to a persons mental state. That's not to excuse any wrongdoing if that were the case but you could certainly see why he might have gone down that route, living as he did in a bubble.

All that being said Billie Jean is possibly the greatest pop record ever produced.

Do you think Michael Jackson was a paedophile?

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