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Litter Lout Irish and its worse we are getting

  • 16-03-2015 10:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭


    Litter Litter every where

    The littering problem in the towns and urban areas has improved as local authorities cleaning staff tidy up after us,

    But the countryside is something else

    The amount of general litter on our country roads is very noticeable at this time of year as the grass has not started to grow yet to cover it up.

    Coke tins ,
    coke bottles,
    red bull tins
    7up bottles
    Lucozade Bottles
    Mineral tins of all brands

    Water bottles ,
    crisp bags etc,
    cigarette boxes
    Takeaway plastic tea and coffee cups

    Fast food litter all the national local and international players are there, plastic bags carrying our confectionery products
    sandwich containers

    The list goes on

    USE IT
    THROW IT

    Thats what we do toss it out the window of the car no respect no care for the countryside no responsibility

    Who cares not many it appears
    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Apt username.

    There was a county councillor on Joe Duffy some time back who defended the decision to remove rubbish bins from a local beach because the bins "attracted" rubbish.

    I agree though, Dublin City centre which has lots of bins, gets filthy very quickly with all kinds of junk. Does it really feel ok to people to just drop their can, or bigmac container on the ground?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    not sure about the rest of the country, but I've seen a lot of those tiny big replaced by the Big Belly Solar ones.
    so at least if they're not filling up before council workers get back around to empty them that's half the battle.
    still won't stop the skangers on the beaches over the summer though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Desolation Of Smug


    Litters bad alright, but the utter fcuktards that scatter their black bags of rubbish down country roads rot my hole. You really couldn't find anywhere else to put it?? Slobshytes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    What's even worse is when the hedges on the roadside have been cut back the amount of rubbish is shocking!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,784 ✭✭✭Damien360


    This seems to be a young problem. When I was younger I threw my papers on the ground and got a clip across the ear for it. Did'nt do it again and still don't.

    But that does not appear to have happened to the under 25's. We live opposite a shop and despite plenty of bins, nobody under 25 uses anything but the ground. It is someone else's job to pick up after them. Kids, teenagers and young adults are all the same. Hell, even the kids with their parents do it.

    The stupid ads in the cinemas with the silouette throwing rubbish in the bin does not work. Nobody fears a fine as that will not happen. What to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 942 ✭✭✭Ghekko


    Totally agree. Drove for over an hour yesterday and the amount of litter on the road side was shocking. Bins are being removed in public areas because people are dumping their weekly rubbish in them leaving them overflowing. Have driven through Germany/Austria and couldn't get over how clean the countryside was in both countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭ger vallely


    I live on a country road. There is one family a few fields up who have no shame. It's unreal the amount of litter they throw from their car. It's loads of the same stuff, 7Up bottles, Supermacs packaging and crisp packets. Loads of them. There was a community clean up a week or so ago. The bags of rubbish were collected from right outside their house. I was at work when that clean up took place but I really feel that next time we ought to empty the bags into their garden. It's shocking that a few generations of one family will not learn the idea of bringing your rubbish home. Instead they empty it, from their car, right outside their own home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Ghekko wrote: »
    Totally agree. Drove for over an hour yesterday and the amount of litter on the road side was shocking. Bins are being removed in public areas because people are dumping their weekly rubbish in them leaving them overflowing. Have driven through Germany/Austria and couldn't get over how clean the countryside was in both countries.

    Because they respect the countryside and don't expect someone else to clean up after them.

    There's a nice chunk of people who wouldn't think twice about littering, it's shocking how mentally retarded some people can be be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭PWEI


    Was only thinking about this when I was out cycling in North County Dublin on Saturday. Every few hundred meters there was bags of rubbish by the side of the road. It's always been a problem but has got much worse in the last couple of years.
    Bin charges increasing hasn't helped. In Fingal for example, it used be €3:50 for a bin tag. Now its €9:50 & yearly standing charge of €110.

    In urban areas it's definitely a youth problem. On my road in Swords there are kids & teenagers always throwing their rubbish on their way to & from an all weather football pitch. A few weeks ago I saw a kid who was no older than 11 leave a large glass bottle on the road.
    So I ran after him & said "you left this on the road" . He replied "SO"
    It was only when I threatened to call the litter warden he took the bottle back but he probably just dumped elsewhere.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭cerastes


    Litters bad alright, but the utter fcuktards that scatter their black bags of rubbish down country roads rot my hole. You really couldn't find anywhere else to put it?? Slobshytes.

    Who are these people though? what kind of people are they?
    I see it around and I used to get annoyed, now, just give up on thinking about it.
    I saw a guy tip an ashtray of butts out his car window onto the ground, then followed it with a nappy!
    There are means of disposing of rubbish that dont involve liitering that dont cost an arm and a leg, I only put my grey bin out every 6-8 weeks, the green one every fortnight and the brown one once or twice a year, for me thats about 125-150 a year including the now admin fee, I used to spend that on a night out before or two easily. These people obviously cant get there head around sorting the rubbish as you are throwing it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Desolation Of Smug


    I live on a country road. There is one family a few fields up who have no shame. It's unreal the amount of litter they throw from their car. It's loads of the same stuff, 7Up bottles, Supermacs packaging and crisp packets. Loads of them. There was a community clean up a week or so ago. The bags of rubbish were collected from right outside their house. I was at work when that clean up took place but I really feel that next time we ought to empty the bags into their garden. It's shocking that a few generations of one family will not learn the idea of bringing your rubbish home. Instead they empty it, from their car, right outside their own home.

    Yeah, and then someone else cleaned it up, for free. No lesson there. No fine, do consequences. Why would they bother cleaning up? The reason most european countries are cleaner is that you'd get your hole fined off you for doing that^.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    PWEI wrote: »
    Was only thinking about this when I was out cycling in North County Dublin on Saturday. Every few hundred meters there was bags of rubbish by the side of the road. It's always been a problem but has got much worse in the last couple of years.
    Bin charges increasing hasn't helped. In Fingal for example, it used be €3:50 for a bin tag. Now its €9:50 & yearly standing charge of €110.

    In urban areas it's definitely a youth problem. On my road in Swords there are kids & teenagers always throwing their rubbish on their way to & from an all weather football pitch. A few weeks ago I saw a kid who was no older than 11 leave a large glass bottle on the road.
    So I ran after him & said "you left this on the road" . He replied "SO"
    It was only when I threatened to call the litter warden he took the bottle back but he probably just dumped elsewhere.

    A wheelie bin lift can cost from €30-40 in Germany and you dont see the Bavarian countryside covered with waste. Germans have respected for the countryside, where as Irish dont. Bin collections were free and people were still dumping on the side of the road.

    How is it a youth problem.The only people I see throwing rubbish out their windows are adults eg cigarette butts, bottles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    The Slobs wrote: »
    Litter Litter every where

    The littering problem in the towns and urban areas has improved as local authorities cleaning staff tidy up after us,

    But the countryside is something else.

    The amount of general litter on our country roads is very noticeable at this time of year as the grass has not started to grow yet to cover it up...

    The list goes on

    USE IT
    THROW IT

    Thats what we do toss it out the window of the car no respect no care for the countryside no responsibility

    Who cares not many it appears
    :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::




    Except it is not just the country-side. Have a read of this & this
    A claim that littering was leading to rodent infestation was made by Killarney-based Independent councillor Donal Grady, who said rats were “dancing polka sets” around the garbage.

    At least this issue is being tackled by our Council Members,
    kerry4sam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I live in Dublin and wouldn't agree that things are better in the city.

    Regarding rural Ireland, I was on a cycle tour in the West last Summer and couldn't help noticing out miles from the nearest town the number of those plastic tops for takeaway hot drinks. Obviously it's normal to grab a coffee/tea in the local Centra/Spar, head off in the car/van and when it's finished out the window with the container.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    It's disgusting. What type of selfish thick would drive to an area of natural beauty and throw bags of rubbish into a ditch on the side of the road? It has to be bad breeding and utter contempt for society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Walked about a mile on a country road today ad it's just shocking the ammount of paper cups, lids and drinks bottles in the verges. Truly shocking.

    It's so ironic that we rely on portraying Ireland as a clean green country when irish people have such little regard for littering.

    Part of my job involves maintenance of public recreation areas and it is just shameful how they are treated. Last summer we had glass bottles broken into the lake shore in one location at a point where children paddle in the water, This was intentionally done at this one location with the aparrent intent to injure a child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭ger vallely


    Desolation of Smag- I kind of agree with you, well more than kind of. Cleaning up for them is no lesson learned but for other people living here, it's just awful to see the rubbish every day. But I really think that I am going to start collecting bits on my walks and just put it back over their wall. It's curtain twitcher land here, my family are blow ins from 'the city' so we don't have much standing but I 'd love to see the local big wigs call to their door in protest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭PWEI


    hfallada wrote: »
    A wheelie bin lift can cost from €30-40 in Germany and you dont see the Bavarian countryside covered with waste. Germans have respected for the countryside, where as Irish dont. Bin collections were free and people were still dumping on the side of the road.

    How is it a youth problem.The only people I see throwing rubbish out their windows are adults eg cigarette butts, bottles



    Totally agree with you, I lived in Bavaria & you just don't see their countryside covered in litter. I'm not condoning the behavior of people because of the increase in bid charges. I'm just saying it's got worse since the bin charges have gone up. Still no excuse for people to do it & I don't understand the mentality of the scumbags who do.


    The single bits of litter around urban areas, bottles, cans, chip bags tends to be more young people doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,599 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    My own pet hate is those cable ties that accumulate on lamp posts etc. I have spent hours walking around my area cutting them down.

    Most are remainders/reminders of political campaigns long past.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 969 ✭✭✭JacquesDeLad


    Councils should employ an army of commission only litter wardens. If you thought there was a chance you'd actually get fined you'd never litter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    Councils should employ an army of commission only litter wardens. If you thought there was a chance you'd actually get fined you'd never litter.

    Good idea, but how would you fund it? A better solution would be to have a refundable deposit on bottles and cans. Or how about single-use wrappers for foodstuffs (sweet and crisp wrappers) that are biodegradable? Imagine actually being encouraged to litter for the environment :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Not just Irish, found black bags dumped once on our place filled with a whole load of Polish food wrappers and jars, cigarette butts and empty Marlboro packs. They were too cute to put things with names and addresses in it unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    Zero civic responsibility and pride in our country. Zero fear of being caught and fined.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Zero civic responsibility and pride in our country. Zero fear of being caught and fined.

    Bang on. It teaches young people street skills. Lidl bins (normally in the carpark) are best for zero security. Dump dirty waste (and bag it, i have no sympathy for unbagged rubbish) near your local recycling spot.
    Newspapers get returned to the bin of the shop where you bought them.
    Junk mail is returned to the street. You dump your rubbish in my letterbox. I return it to the street and let some busybody report you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    We're definitely one of the mankiest countries in Europe by a mile - it's embarassing. Go on a cycle along roads (you don't twnd to notice these things as much when driving) and the shear amount of rubbish on the sides of the roads is mind boggling.

    Our local spar got rid of 4 bond outside it - in fairness no difference as it was a sh!t hole before and a sh!t hole after - the trail of rubbish from the shop was hilarious.

    Poster earlier compares us with Austria and Germany - two countries I visited and lived in the latter. We've an awful sense of so social immaturity that's only obvious when you visit these countries - by no means perfect but streets ahead of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    We're definitely one of the mankiest countries in Europe by a mile - it's embarassing. Go on a cycle along roads (you don't twnd to notice these things as much when driving) and the shear amount of rubbish on the sides of the roads is mind boggling.

    Our local spar got rid of 4 bond outside it - in fairness no difference as it was a sh!t hole before and a sh!t hole after - the trail of rubbish from the shop was hilarious.

    Poster earlier compares us with Austria and Germany - two countries I visited and lived in the latter. We've an awful sense of so social immaturity that's only obvious when you visit these countries - by no means perfect but streets ahead of us.

    Then stop cycling. Bunch of junkies pissing in bottles and littering the countryside with it as heroes. You lot should be ashamed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭blackbird 49


    I've seen people dump bottles& cans at the recycling banks and I know some of them can be full if so bring them to another one or bring them back home, I've walked country lanes and seen black bags,also washing machines, televisions, etc,etc, what I don't get is that people had to drive in a car to dump these , where I live it only cost E2 to go to the recycling centre,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Then stop cycling. Bunch of junkies pissing in bottles and littering the countryside with it as heroes. You lot should be ashamed.

    Yeah whatever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Yeah whatever

    H before a except when posting drunk. Oh..look...c'rected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    H before a except when posting drunk. Oh..look...c'rected.

    Are you 12, or just have the mental age of a 12 year old?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭...__...


    Jesus thats nothing where I live down a lane in Dublin we have every manky nacor dumping.
    Just two weeks ago a local family dumped at lest 30 black bags and tried to torch it.
    D**kheads didnt count on the fire going out and all there info still on the paper nice and waiting there for the litter warden.
    They even dumped there credit cards.
    Problem is when these families get the fine they just throw it in the bin.

    Travellers locals romanians polish the only people I have never caught dumping is Africans the drainage ditches are full of rubbish and the rats are everywhere.

    But this place is worth fighting for and god when I catch them they pay big time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Are you 12, or just have the mental age of a 12 year old?

    Mental age. And proud thereof. A sort of Alzheimers in reverse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Depraved


    Haha..if only you seen Manilla in The Philippines. Every 5 minutes you see someone pissing against a wall, and there are no public bins so everyone just throws their rubbish on the ground.

    At night, all households just throw their days trash out onto the street (not even in bin bags). Homeless people and animals then scavenge what they can from it. In the mornings, a truck goes around with some guys who shovel up the remains into the back of a truck, but leave quite a bit behind. There's a river in the Tonda area that you can't actually see because of the amount of plastic floating in it. Seriously, it's about a foot deep. Here...have a look:
    http://i1.wp.com/www.streetchildadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Blog-Feb-5a.jpg

    After living here for a while, I will never complain about Dublin again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Mental age. And proud thereof. A sort of Alzheimers in reverse.

    Sure...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,777 ✭✭✭✭fits


    It would help if they spend less time teaching children religion in school and a bit more time teaching them how to be a good citizen. But nobody seems to care about that.

    Was home last week and I was shocked by the rubbish as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Rubbish was everywhere when I was a kid and 30 odd years later it still is and not to put too fine a point on it, it's fcuking disgusting. For all the progress we like to beat our chests about we're still largely a dirty nation. All the talk of being a knowledge economy and we still don't know how to put rubbish in the bin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,618 ✭✭✭baldbear


    The amount of Dog shíte left unclaimed is another one. Sometimes I feel like wiping the dog shít in irresponsible owners faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I would put a flytipper in the same boat as a head the ball selling gear on bachelor's walk. Both don't give a fcuk about the damage they do as long as they make/save money. Both have very little fear of being caught. Both set an awful example to others.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    baldbear wrote: »
    The amount of Dog shíte left unclaimed is another one. Sometimes I feel like wiping the dog shít in irresponsible owners faces.

    They've a new way of dealing with dog sh!te around our way - put it in little black bags and abandon it hanging on the nearest tree or fence. Sometimes on the path, so it gets squashed. So now you have plastic and dig sh!te that's gong no where.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    A bit regional, I know, but can anyone in the Wexford area tell me what is going on between the Maldron & Whitford roundabouts? For some reason people (presumably out walking) are putting discarded plastic bottles over the end twigs of trees. Basically, they are dressing the trees and hedgerows like Christmas Trees. Horrible to look at but it highlights the litter problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Honest question. Do the smokers who throw their cigarette butts out of the car window know they are littering or do they not see it as such? Will anyone here admit to doing it and give their thoughts?

    Also, I remember in the 90's there were big billboards at ports of entry saying Welcome to Dublin, Please Excuse the Litter". Morto


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,793 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    Four ideas:

    1. A 50c deposit on all glass bottles, plastic bottles and cans; both alcoholic and non alcoholic. Be able to return them to any shop that sells bottles or cans. It's not impossible, Germany reintroduced this around 2002. Deposit bottles exist in a lot of other countries. A lot of them have vending machines where they can be returned.


    2. Bin charges to be part of household charge and bins to be collected for free. Along with this, introduce the German "Spermullkarte" (Junk Card). You get two cards per annum and can bring anything up to a large van free of charge to a recycling depot with anything in it.
    This is one of the reasons why Dublin City Council introduced waste charges a few years ago, they got rid of it before the household charge came in to make it cheaper.

    3. Or, do what som cities abroad do, and any junk you have you put it on the street for three days, after which it is coillected. Anyone can sort through the waste and get what they want for themselves in the meantime. We kitted a whole apartment out using this in Frankfurt back in the 90's.

    4. All garden waste should be free to dump in council tips or in composting places if they want, again part of household charge.

    Waste should be charged at source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i don't think we're as litter lout as we once were, civic awareness is more prevalent than a generation ago...thanks partly to the tidy towns and the like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Red Kev wrote: »
    Four ideas:

    1. A 50c deposit on all glass bottles, plastic bottles and cans; both alcoholic and non alcoholic. Be able to return them to any shop that sells bottles or cans. It's not impossible, Germany reintroduced this around 2002. Deposit bottles exist in a lot of other countries. A lot of them have vending machines where they can be returned.


    2. Bin charges to be part of household charge and bins to be collected for free. Along with this, introduce the German "Spermullkarte" (Junk Card). You get two cards per annum and can bring anything up to a large van free of charge to a recycling depot with anything in it.
    This is one of the reasons why Dublin City Council introduced waste charges a few years ago, they got rid of it before the household charge came in to make it cheaper.

    3. Or, do what som cities abroad do, and any junk you have you put it on the street for three days, after which it is coillected. Anyone can sort through the waste and get what they want for themselves in the meantime. We kitted a whole apartment out using this in Frankfurt back in the 90's.

    4. All garden waste should be free to dump in council tips or in composting places if they want, again part of household charge.

    Waste should be charged at source.

    All good suggestions. I think losing our indigenous glass industry here saw the end of glass recycling (I.e washing and reusing). That's not to say it couldn't become economically viable again.

    Like you I lived in Germany and got all sits of things for my student res - couches, irons even a stereo. But I couldn't see it working here - thrtes not enough civic pride and coo on to make it work.

    What really annoys me here is that people will go to great lengths to dump many items that can be recycled or up cycled - TVs hoovers old PCs strewn in ditches where they could be of use to someone. There's a perfectly good child's car seat in the ditch on the way to clonee - surely if use to someone before it was dumped. Perhaps having no change for these items would cut this out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Right Turn Clyde


    I'm not sure if anyone has raised this already, but the issue of cigarette butts has me totally bewildered. It's acceptable to throw a butt onto the ground and walk away from it. Thankfully, I live in a town where members of the public would chastise you if you littered, but that doesn't apply to cigarette butts. Why is it acceptable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Not as bad a problem as it used to be in my opinion. People seem to much more aware of it these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭Phil Mitchell


    I don't think litter in my area is that much of a problem as it used to be. The bag levy and lucozade moving to a plastic bottle made a huge difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    I don't think litter in my area is that much of a problem as it used to be. The bag levy and lucozade moving to a plastic bottle made a huge difference.

    It's been replaced with something else though - it seems almost customary to throw disposable coffee cups and McDonald's wrappers out the windows around me.

    The McDonald's car park will sometimes have 4 nice neat piles of rubbish when a car pulls off, corresponding to where each of the occupants decided to dump it.


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