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Jump! they shouted, so he did, to his death

  • 16-03-2015 9:10pm
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    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭


    Has society become so sick that people will shout "Jump!" and video a man committing suicide.

    Unfortunately, it has.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-shropshire-31903327
    Police have condemned onlookers who shouted "jump" and filmed a distressed man officers were trying to talk down from a tall building.
    One witness said she was "sickened" by the scene in Telford, Shropshire.
    West Mercia Police said it was "pretty appalling" as the man was "clearly in need of support and assistance".
    The man fell and was pronounced dead at about 15:40 GMT on Saturday. Police warned they could take action against anyone sharing the footage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Afroshack


    That's disgusting. I genuinely weep for humanity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    I'm not a bit surprised. People, as a whole, are a freakish mix of the divine and the disgusting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    The poor, poor guy. I wish people had thought to shout at him not to do it.

    Absolute fcuking scumbags. I knew there were some nasty people in the world, but Christ, this is shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    I said something on another thread about Irish people being more helpful in general than the English. I wonder if its wishful thinking. Awful stuff altogether.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Many kids are being brought up to have no respect for anything. Wether it be money, authority or other people, it seems there is a real deficit in parenting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    I said something on another thread about Irish people being more helpful in general than the English. I wonder if its wishful thinking. Awful stuff altogether.

    Yes, I think you are being naive.

    A person is generally decent, people can be despicable. It was ever thus. At one point going to public hangings was seen as a great day out for all the family.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The sad fact is that the kids most likely didn't really mean what they said and were probably shocked when it actually happened, however, the adults videoing the death are despicable!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    I said something on another thread about Irish people being more helpful in general than the English. I wonder if its wishful thinking. Awful stuff altogether.

    Yep, just green tinted glasses.

    In Waterford they whipped out their mobile phones to record someone who ended up under a vehicle, just like anywhere else, there are those that are appaled and those that almost take delight in the demise of others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Happened a number of times online over the years where the victim, clearly having problems, being coaxed and encouraged to finish the job. First thing that came to mind when you asked. Yes, we are an odd species and hard to understand a lot of the time. Very distressing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭boobar


    Thoughts and prayers for him and his family.

    For those that taunted him when he was distressed, hopefully treachery returns to the treacherous person.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover54


    At least they didn't tell him to do a flip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    At least they didn't tell him to do a flip.

    Seriously not funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    At least they didn't tell him to do a flip.

    Mod: Knock it off with the jokes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I know it sounds keyboardy, but I genuinely would belt one of the cnuts a few times if I was there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,809 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    I said something on another thread about Irish people being more helpful in general than the English. I wonder if its wishful thinking. Awful stuff altogether.

    All Irish are sound, therefore it follows all English are w*nkers. :rolleyes:
    We must be so insecure as a nation that we always obsess about them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover54


    Mod: Knock it off with the jokes

    Pfft


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    Not clicking on that link. I get the picture from the title and the threads. Bunch of fcukheads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    All Irish are sound, therefore it follows all English are w*nkers. :rolleyes:
    We must be so insecure as a nation that we always obsess about them.

    No it's not that, I've lived almost exactly half of my life in England and have a lot of English family. It's just that in my experience there's a bit more community spirit in Ireland and also I would've thought someone would be more likely to shut someone up if they were shouting "jump!" People have confirmed what I suspected though, it was naive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Facebook generation...

    Need to post as much as possible to get those "likes"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    No it's not that, I've lived almost exactly half of my life in England and have a lot of English family. It's just that in my experience there's a bit more community spirit in Ireland and also I would've thought someone would be more likely to shut someone up if they were shouting "jump!" People have confirmed what I suspected though, it was naive.

    I'm in the wild west so maybe things are different here?

    Whenever I bump into someone, make eye contact or whatever, 99% of the time the guy says "Howya, not a bad day." I don't know anywhere in England that, that would happen. Its most likely nothing/blank or "F Off""

    So yes I think there is more community here.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Pfft

    don't post in this thread again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    It can be a sick sad world.:( I do worry about what the future holds for us when todays youth grows older and calls the shots. So many of them seem detached from the world and the irony is that they're spending so much time connected to social media that they aren't actually connecting to their society. Go to any event and people are watching it through their phones while they record it:confused: What an awful way for that poor chap to die, and to die being taunted by a crowd is obscene.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    They should be charged with murder 2. Depraved indifference.

    They do 5 - 10 upstate and toss bubbas salad.

    Too much law and order.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Not clicking on that link. I get the picture from the title and the threads. Bunch of fcukheads.

    I really want to believe that social media and technology is merely foregrounding an already existing/nascent strain of human cuntiness and desensitization which will remain inevitably static rather than the frankly terrifying idea that we may just be getting more horrible as a species.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    Unfortunately it did.

    In my own home city about 20 years ago.

    Poor sod jumped off a tower crane to the encouragement of a few tossers on the ground.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    At least they didn't tell him to do a flip.

    Get lost you absolute freak!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Read title of thread with sad-face and thought no way! didn't happen!

    Actually reading the snippet quoted was enough to turn my stomach; just sickening. Assistance was clearly needed and not thoughtless members of society showing their ignorance, yet again!
    Hate the fact that the family would know this was online & viral for all to watch. Jesus!

    Oh what a world we live in!
    kerry4sam


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    I said something on another thread about Irish people being more helpful in general than the English. I wonder if its wishful thinking. Awful stuff altogether.

    This did happen in Galway @ 20 years ago at the Docks, didn't see it happen but was around the town that day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    At least they didn't tell him to do a flip.

    Get lost you absolute freak!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Similar happened up in Thomas Street, D8 a year or so back. In the end, the guy didn't jump, just came down off the gear and a non-event.
    Last year, ditto on a roof in College Green.
    In both cases, kudos to the police and fire brigade with what was happening above and below.
    As for idiots shouting "jump" - we just wish them the best when circumstances demand they take their place on a roof somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover54


    crusier wrote: »
    This did happen in Galway @ 20 years ago at the Docks, didn't see it happen but was around the town that day.

    I was there that evening. April 1997 I think. A young man climbed a construction crane near the docks.

    I remember it attracted a crowd but I definitely didn't see anyone taunting him. I read in the tribune that week that he lost his footing and fell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    Get lost you absolute freak!!

    Mod: stop with the personal abuse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    Doesn't surprise me at all. Pretty standard thing to happen, even in Ireland where the people are so much more "helpful".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,183 ✭✭✭Fey!


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    Unfortunately I saw a crowd shouting jump to a man outside a second floor window in Galway several years ago. Thankfully the Gardaí on the scene were able to deal with the situation and the guy got the help he needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Zippie84


    Saddening, but doesn't surprise me.

    While this is a whole other level, we see so much similar on social media.

    E.g. bridge closed due to someone on it close to jumping - people tweeting, facebooking etc, that they should just go and bloody do it, and stop inconveniencing everyone.

    Have seen all kinds of similar examples online and in person, and I can't identify with it at all.

    To be in that type of pain to want to take your own life, so badly wanting it all to end, and people having so little compassion, and basically wishing you dead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭forgodssake


    what is it with people recording everything and anything these days ? u can't go anywhere without having a phone stuck in your face. but seriously this is too much . how could you stand there witnessing that and record it . do people genuinely want to capture something more than try and help in a situation like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    Zippie84 wrote: »
    Saddening, but doesn't surprise me.

    While this is a whole other level, we see so much similar on social media.

    E.g. bridge closed due to someone on it close to jumping - people tweeting, facebooking etc, that they should just go and bloody do it, and stop inconveniencing everyone.

    Have seen all kinds of similar examples online and in person, and I can't identify with it at all.

    To be in that type of pain to want to take your own life, so badly wanting it all to end, and people having so little compassion, and basically wishing you dead.

    Never pack a scumbag there will always be one there when you get there! A qoute from a mate of mine in the emergency services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    crusier wrote: »
    Never pack a scumbag there will always be one there when you get there!

    Yup, the Thomas St. and College Green incidents went viral (including here). People were boarding buses to go have a wee look-see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Desolation Of Smug


    I often wonder why I'm not hugely fond of "people", then I see stuff like this and remember why.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not clicking on that link. I get the picture from the title and the threads. Bunch of fcukheads.
    It's the BBC news site, nothing sensationalist to be seen there, or graphic pictures.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Zippie84


    It's the BBC news site, nothing sensationalist to be seen there, or graphic pictures.

    Yep. Media reporting is often not great on this subject at all, and often not in accordance with the Samaritans guidelines on the reporting of suicide (definitely getting better though), but this one does seem ok.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Am I being ridiculously naive in thinking that wouldn't happen in Ireland?

    I said something on another thread about Irish people being more helpful in general than the English. I wonder if its wishful thinking. Awful stuff altogether.

    Not sure, but society in the UK is beyond repair at this stage, benefit system bringing up sociopaths on a mass scale, Ireland unfortunately is following.

    disgusting society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Hold on people are surprised by this? This is the world we live in im afraid. Back in the 90's I worked in San Francisco and driving home to Oakland one evening the traffic was hellish on the bridge. Eventually got to the reason for this a jumper on the bridge who the police where attempting to talk down. As cars drove by the incident drivers shouted jump and hurry up you idiot at the guy. People in general are pretty sick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭bogwalrus


    Many kids are being brought up to have no respect for anything. Wether it be money, authority or other people, it seems there is a real deficit in parenting.

    I can't help but think younger generations are more detached from reality. That actions such as telling a person to jump to their death can be in anyway entertaining. Will they realise what they did after??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Not sure, but society in the UK is beyond repair at this stage, benefit system bringing up sociopaths on a mass scale, Ireland unfortunately is following.

    disgusting society.

    :pac: Yeah it's all those lazy feckers on benefits


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Zippie84


    Hold on people are surprised by this?

    I've not seen anyone say they were surprised.

    Only time on the thread someone said the word surprised was when someone said 'I am not a bit surprised'.

    I generally get the feeling that people are saying they are the opposite of surprised.

    One person did say they were 'shocked', although could be seen as a very slightly different thing from 'surprised', but nope I don't think people are generally surprised from what I read.... and like you, not at all surprised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Many kids are being brought up to have no respect for anything. Wether it be money, authority or other people, it seems there is a real deficit in parenting.

    Don't see that at all. Kids I find are more respectful than ever, the ones I've come across anyway


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    It's a pity that somebody didn't film the bastards who were shouting "jump" and post it online. Let that follow the pricks around for a few years.

    "Ah, it's come to our attention that you were among many taunting a troubled person into killing himself. Yes, I don't think there's a place for your ilk in this company, or any company in this city for that matter. Good day."


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    the_monkey wrote: »
    Not sure, but society in the UK is beyond repair at this stage, benefit system bringing up sociopaths on a mass scale, Ireland unfortunately is following.

    disgusting society.

    I think you'll find that the poorest elements of society, whether they be penniless or on benefits as a result of their ill-fortune, will display throes more sympathy, empathy and assistance to their fellow man than the moneyed class to which you yearn to belong. I'm not poor. In fact I'm now well off and in my travels only the weak have displayed the kind of compassion to me that has left a lump in my throat. Don't say something as flippant and disgusting regarding poor people.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭Tugboats


    I think he jumped because he wanted to not because scumbags told him to like the tabloid style headline suggests.


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