Warp Speed.

kneemos

What's the science behind warp speed,or the makey up science at least?

Spunge

****'s fast

Kevin McCloud

Did the google not have anything to say about it.

kneemos

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

Did the google not have anything to say about it.

No.

Spunge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive

brb reading this

Peregrine

How do you mean?

In fiction, it's a form of faster than light travel. Light travels at 300,000,000 metres per second and a warp drive, supposedly, propells a spaceship at speeds many orders of magnitudes greater than that.

That's what they mean by warp speed anyway. There's no real science behind it.

Duckworth_Luas

Carl Sagan explains it succinctly in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE

Spunge

ended up in theoretical-physics wiki pages, thats the end of that.

Jawgap

kneemos wrote: »

What's the science behind warp speed,or the makey up science at least?

Warp drive, in theory wouldn't 'propel' a ship forward it would warp space bringing the point of destination closer.

Needs a lot of energy - a wormhole would be quicker!

kneemos

Jawgap wrote: »

Warp drive, in theory wouldn't 'propel' a ship forward it would warp space bringing the point of destination closer.

Needs a lot of energy - a wormhole would be quicker!

You'd need to create something similar to a black energy wise presumably?

Depraved

Something to do with reducing the mass of objects and distorting time/space inside a subspace bubble. At least in the Star Trek Universe.

RobbingBandit

wendell borton

Zefram Cochraine will invent the warp drive in 2063.

Jawgap

Lawrence Krause, explains it well - his books looking at the various depictions of science in the movies are good reads.....

For warp speed, you need to start with a condom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myd2OyH21Eg

iDave

wendell borton wrote: »

Zefram Cochraine will invent the warp drive in 2063.

We've WW3 to live through first.

The_Valeyard

wendell borton wrote: »

Zefram Cochraine will invent the warp drive in 2063.

Thats all well and good but earth has to go through ww3 to get it first.

Jawgap

iDave wrote: »

We've WW3 to live through first.

Well I for one can't wait to get my hands on one those fancy communicators they had in Star Trek - imagine having a device you can carry around either you and anyone with a similar device will be able to contact you........

PirateShampoo

All I know is that Warp 10 in theory impossible.

The_Valeyard

Not a fan of wormholes either. The crew get ripped apart in some demon world and the ship comes back alive and all evil.

Mena

wendell borton wrote: »

Zefram Cochraine will invent the warp drive in 2063.

That's all well and good but we'd need to survive Alfre Woodard partnering with him *shudder*

ArtyM

iDave wrote: »

We've WW3 to live through first.

I think Wet and Wild 3 was released ages ago, so thats sorted.

Desolation Of Smug

Honda cracked this years ago -they called it Vtec.

Iranoutofideas

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RobbingBandit

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Powered by Haggis farts.

What is the Fat Bastard mobile?

sjb25

Desolation Of Smug wrote: »

Honda cracked this years ago -they called it Vtec.

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defrule

Alcubierre drive is an interesting one.

Tony EH

Jawgap wrote: »

Well I for one can't wait to get my hands on one those fancy communicators they had in Star Trek - imagine having a device you can carry around either you and anyone with a similar device will be able to contact you........

Yeh, but if Apple make it so it can beam you up to a spaceship (or even just to work in the morning) then I will seriously know we've hot the future.

I'll still hate Apple though.

Jawgap

Tony EH wrote: »

Yeh, but if Apple make it so it can beam you up to a spaceship (or even just to work in the morning) then I will seriously know we've hot the future.

I'll still hate Apple though.

Cupertino looks like the Star Trek Academy though

Son Of A Vidic

Jawgap wrote: »

For warp speed, you need to start with a condom

Makes sense, because there have been reports of lads hitting warp speed to escape after a condom bursts.

Iwasfrozen

kneemos wrote: »

What's the science behind warp speed,or the makey up science at least?

It's makey up science, as far as we know nothing can break the light speed barrier and nothing with a mass can ever reach light speed.

Jawgap

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

It's makey up science, as far as we know nothing can break the light speed barrier and nothing with a mass can ever reach light speed.

With a warp drive, you don't move the ship, you warp space and bring your destination to you - the speed of light is irrelevant.

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Well I guess it comes down to how to generate negative energy and if enough can be generated to carry this out.

How would this affect time dilation though?

You can travel into the past

The_Valeyard

Jawgap wrote: »

With a warp drive, you don't move the ship, you warp space and bring your destination to you - the speed of light is irrelevant.

So why doesn't the universe tear itself apart with multiple ships doing this?

Iwasfrozen

Jawgap wrote: »

With a warp drive, you don't move the ship, you warp space and bring your destination to you - the speed of light is irrelevant.

Well I guess it comes down to how to generate negative energy and if enough can be generated to carry this out.

How would this affect time dilation though?

jimgoose

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

It's makey up science, as far as we know nothing can break the light speed barrier and nothing with a mass can ever reach light speed.

You sir, need to try out a Kawasaki ZZ-R1400. And Improbability Drive is faster anyway.

kneemos

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Well I guess it comes down to how to generate negative energy and if enough can be generated to carry this out.

How would this affect time dilation though?

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sure.

Jawgap

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Well I guess it comes down to how to generate negative energy and if enough can be generated to carry this out.

How would this affect time dilation though?

See post #31 (top of the page) :D

Iwasfrozen

Jawgap wrote: »

You can travel into the past

Would it though? I was thinking if space is bending, the ship isn't actually moving faster than the speed of light.

MarkAnthony

All we need is negative energy? Just open a thread about benefits in After hours and we'll be at Vega in under 3 minutes.

fizzypish

MarkAnthony wrote: »

All we need is negative energy? Just open a thread about benefits in After hours and we'll be at Vega in under 3 minutes.

Aww man. I've trouble analyzing simple circuits at the best of times. Add in negative voltage and I start dribbling and smashing my head on the desk. I shudder to think about negative energy......

Although, wouldn't negative energy be something thats drawing from an energy source so any device that draws from a power source is a negative energy source? E.G. Battery in a phone == + energy source, the rest of the phone == - energy source
And I base this on absolutely nothing.

CINCLANTFLT

It simple... X.Y.¤⊙¤⊙ω⊙¤⊙⊙¤⊙⊙.K^xy ~ W

the_monkey

The_Valeyard wrote: »

So why doesn't the universe tear itself apart with multiple ships doing this?

It actually was slowly doing just this, wasn't there a TNG episode with a storyline like this ?

Jawgap

MarkAnthony wrote: »

All we need is negative energy? Just open a thread about benefits in After hours and we'll be at Vega in under 3 minutes.

I know a ready, cheap and accessible source of negative energy......


......just PM me and I'll give you my ex-wife's address! Stick her on a ship (please ) and you'd circumnavigate the known universe and still be home in time for dinner!

fizzypish

CINCLANTFLT wrote: »

It simple... X.Y.€⊙€⊙ω⊙€⊙⊙€⊙⊙.K^xy ~ W

X.Y.€^4.⊙^7.ω.K^xy ~ W

Tidied that up for you.

Akrasia

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

It's makey up science, as far as we know nothing can break the light speed barrier and nothing with a mass can ever reach light speed.

Space itself can travel 'faster than light'


Galaxies outside of the 'observable universe' will never be visable to us because they are travelling away from us faster than the speed of light

The cosmic speed limit refers to objects travelling through space. Warp drives get around this by 'warping space' around your space ship so that you're not actually moving but spacetime moves around you.

It requries 'negative mass' or density lower than the density in a pure vacuum

It had been thought that the energy requirements to achieve negative mass were greater than the amount of energy contained in the entire observible universe, but Harold White at NASA did some sums recently and thinks we might be able to tweak the design to massively increase efficiency and bring warp travel closer to the realms of feasability.

(of course, until he produces experimental results, we should probably presume he's wrong)

Capt'n Midnight

We've caught up with a lot of the technobabble on Star Trek
Data was built with an ultimate storage capacity of eight hundred quadrillion bits and a total linear computational speed rated at sixty trillion operations per second

To put that in perspective

Nvidia revealed its most powerful mobile processor yet, the Tegra X1 — which is capable of doing teraflops, or trillions of calculations every second.

US county sheriff’s department of Bakersfield, CA ordered a petabyte-class storage array.


BTW the original Warp Speed cubed was how many times faster than light it was, Warp 1 = c Warp 2 = 8c Warp 4 = 64c

Anyway Star Trek is science fantasy so I wouldn't loose any sleep over it.

Mal-Adjusted

I thought this thread was about wasp speed

philstar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygE01sOhzz0

wellboytoo

http://i.imgur.com/OG6sHkf.jpg

Yellowblackbird

There's also cycling down the hill of howth with a good strong wind at your back.

Depraved

Yesterday I was out in the countryside (The Philippines) and was sitting down on a tree stump. A snake slithered to within an inch of my foot and I swear I traveled about 2 miles in 1 second flat. I think it was warp speed.

derfderf

Akrasia wrote: »

Space itself can travel 'faster than light'


Galaxies outside of the 'observable universe' will never be visable to us because they are travelling away from us faster than the speed of light

The cosmic speed limit refers to objects travelling through space. Warp drives get around this by 'warping space' around your space ship so that you're not actually moving but spacetime moves around you.

It requries 'negative mass' or density lower than the density in a pure vacuum

It had been thought that the energy requirements to achieve negative mass were greater than the amount of energy contained in the entire observible universe, but Harold White at NASA did some sums recently and thinks we might be able to tweak the design to massively increase efficiency and bring warp travel closer to the realms of feasability.

(of course, until he produces experimental results, we should probably presume he's wrong)

I read somewhere they'd need an antimatter reserve the mass of Jupiter to power it, but by redesigning the ship it's much less.
They had a few grams at CERN a while back...