Blurred Lines.

eternal

http://www.thejournal.ie/blurred-lines-ruling-1984559-Mar2015/?utm_source=facebook_short

Kevin McCloud

Have you the weather for tomorrow?

eternal

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

Have you the weather for tomorrow?

Rain. Mr 'CLOUD'

Kevin McCloud

eternal wrote: »

Rain.

About as exciting as blurred lines.

eternal

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

About as exciting as blurred lines.

That's a massive settlement and will destroy those well known musicians careers.

brummytom

I don't really think they sound overly similar, tbh. Just a simple bass line and a bit of shouting - is that it?

enfant terrible

Don't sound similar at all.

Smidge

Listened to the comparison.
Tbf, i'm not hearing a huge comparison between the tunes.
Does this mean in future people wont be able to use high hats when recording a tune as to me, thats the main similarity within the two tracks?

Rayne Wooney

Can't really see any similarity tbh, fairly harsh decision that

eternal

I always thought Pharrell was pretty cool, I wonder what this will do to him.

enfant terrible

“There is no such thing as a new idea. It is impossible. We simply take a lot of old ideas and put them into a sort of mental kaleidoscope. We give them a turn and they make new and curious combinations. We keep on turning and making new combinations indefinitely; but they are the same old pieces of colored glass that have been in use through all the ages.”

Corholio

Listen to the layered sounds, it is quite similar. The court were played the tracks in this way.

Smidge

eternal wrote: »

I always thought Pharrell was pretty cool, I wonder what this will do to him.

Don't reckon it will do much tbh, he's on a roll

gctest50

eternal wrote: »

That's a massive settlement and will destroy those well known musicians careers.

not really

pharell spent 35 million on an after-school center

Smidge

enfant terrible wrote: »

“There is no such thing as a new idea. It is impossible. We simply take a lot of old ideas and put them into a sort of mental kaleidoscope. We give them a turn and they make new and curious combinations. We keep on turning and making new combinations indefinitely; but they are the same old pieces of colored glass that have been in use through all the ages.”

Plagiarism infinitum in other words.

Rayne Wooney

Actually it seems Thicke being a bit Thicke admitted to using the song to help create Blurred Lines

johnny osbourne

eternal wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/blurred-lines-ruling-1984559-Mar2015/?utm_source=facebook_short

1997 called and wants its news back

eternal

enfant terrible wrote: »

“There is no such thing as a new idea. It is impossible. We simply take a lot of old ideas and put them into a sort of mental kaleidoscope. We give them a turn and they make new and curious combinations. We keep on turning and making new combinations indefinitely; but they are the same old pieces of colored glass that have been in use through all the ages.”

What you mean is we are influenced by other people and this happens without us even realising it. Plus you quote without reference hence being plagiarism as was said.

csallmighty

That song and those who made it deserved something bad to happen to them

Karl Stein

I guess you could say..
(•_•)

Thicke by name..
( •_•)>⌐■-■

Thicke by nature
(⌐■_■)

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

enfant terrible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGpmA4saEk

suicide_circus

The opening bars with that nifty little drum beat are the same but the rest, melody etc, is completely different

eternal

The start of both is similar alright. I think the drum kick kinda thing is apparent but not enough to warrant that amount of money. Didn't Marvin Gaye have some serious knashers though?

anncoates

Most people over a certain age - and in possession of a pair of ears - instantly thought of Got To Give It Up the minute they heard that tune.

Used to have a lot of sympathy for samplers when it was more creative but now it's often just big corporate acts purloining riffs with some lame MCing over it.

floggg

eternal wrote: »

That's a massive settlement and will destroy those well known musicians careers.

Given the gazillions of hit songs Pharrell had crafted across multiple genres, I think he'll be good.

anncoates

eternal wrote: »

That's a massive settlement and will destroy those well known musicians careers.

lol

diomed

Originality is the art of concealing your source.

Dravokivich

I don't see why such a thing has to be made like this. Surely reading the sheet music will answer the dispute?

Akrasia

floggg wrote: »

Given the gazillions of hit songs Pharrell had crafted across multiple genres, I think he'll be good.

How many lawyers are pouring over the songs he has written right now with shazaam hoping to find a misidentified track?

SEPT 23 1989

Marvin had more talent in his little finger than these clowns put together

Nabber

johnny osbourne wrote: »

1997 called and wants its news back

Did you warn them about 9/11?????

AndonHandon

They sound very similar. It's justice for that prick Thicke. But Pharell as well is clearly on the way out these past few years; feeling old and washed up so resorts to desperate tactics to patch up an ailing career.

Saipanne

diomed wrote: »

Originality is the art of concealing your source.

Exactly. All art is derivative. That's the bloody point.

4zn76tysfajdxp

AndonHandon wrote: »

They sound very similar. It's justice for that prick Thicke. But Pharell as well is clearly on the way out these past few years; feeling old and washed up so resorts to desperate tactics to patch up an ailing career.

Ailing career? Didn't he have a massive song last year?

Wide Load

AndonHandon wrote: »

They sound very similar. It's justice for that prick Thicke. But Pharell as well is clearly on the way out these past few years; feeling old and washed up so resorts to desperate tactics to patch up an ailing career.

It's a shame but he's never really been on form on his own for the most part, bar a couple of tracks here and there. His best and most creative work has always been with The Neptunes & N.E.R.D.

AndonHandon

Evie Nutty Mushroom wrote: »

Ailing career? Didn't he have a massive song last year?

?

bjork

What what what?

You mean Thicke and Pharrell have no talent and have to rip off other peoples music :eek:

Get out

Teyla Emmagan

They sound vaguely similar to me but that's about it. In the way that millions of songs are alike. Nothing is truly original any more. I actually prefer Blurred Lines.

Dravokivich

AndonHandon wrote: »

They sound very similar. It's justice for that prick Thicke. But Pharell as well is clearly on the way out these past few years; feeling old and washed up so resorts to desperate tactics to patch up an ailing career.

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

They sound vaguely similar to me but that's about it. In the way that millions of songs are alike. Nothing is truly original any more. I actually prefer Blurred Lines.

You can say the same thing for a whole load of blues music. But these 2 songs in question have very distinctive differences.

The Marvin Gaye track has a a different bass line. It even runs from a different beat.

The only thing that's similar is the notation of 2 notes at the start of each bass line. And it's been shown before that rhythm itself can not be copyrighted.

I'd be rather interested to see what the basis of the Jury's verdict was on this (as it's not mentioned in the article in the OP). And whether any of them had any knowledge of music itself.

floggg

What I love most about that song is that the appearance of a drug dealer with multiple criminal convictions (including for trying to buy enough guns to take over a small country) is one of the least controversial elements of the song!

floggg

Dravokivich wrote: »

You can say the same thing for a whole load of blues music. But these 2 songs in question have very distinctive differences.

The Marvin Gaye track has a a different bass line. It even runs from a different beat.

The only thing that's similar is the notation of 2 notes at the start of each bass line. And it's been shown before that rhythm itself can not be copyrighted.

I'd be rather interested to see what the basis of the Jury's verdict was on this (as it's not mentioned in the article in the OP). And whether any of them had any knowledge of music itself.

I imagine the rapey lyrics couldn't have helped

(I like the song, and am listening to it as I type - but damn those lyrics are rapey).

Dravokivich

floggg wrote: »

I imagine the rapey lyrics couldn't have helped

(I like the song, and am listening to it as I type - but damn those lyrics are rapey).

They can be perceived as that alright, but when I heard it, it was more of a case of anxious desperation and sexual frustration, from the man's point of view. Sort of a parody on PUA.

mad muffin

All I got out of it is Thicke Gaye Busch…

bjork

floggg wrote: »

I imagine the rapey lyrics couldn't have helped

(I like the song, and am listening to it as I type - but damn those lyrics are rapey).

An easy way to promote something is to put a catchy tune behind it.

wally79

Favourite part of the whole article is the first comment


"Here we go. Another article pushing the Gaye agenda."

MakeEmLaugh

The jury didn't even hear the two tracks side by side.

They had a musician come in and 'interpret' each song based on sheet music.

Unless you have an extraordinary versatile musician, then the songs are going to sound, at the very least, somewhat similar.

MakeEmLaugh

floggg wrote: »

I imagine the rapey lyrics couldn't have helped

(I like the song, and am listening to it as I type - but damn those lyrics are rapey).

That isn't a problem with the song or with Robin Thicke and Pharrell Williams, it's a problem with hip-hop.

There are literally hundreds of hip-hop songs that are far more misogynist (or 'rapey') than 'Blurred Lines'.

NWA, who practically invented modern hip-hop, had a lyric on the first track of their first album that went

"I find a good piece of pussy, I go up in it
So if you're at a show in the front row
I'm a call you a bitch or dirty-ass ho
You'll probably get mad like a bitch is supposed to
But that shows me, slut, you're composed to
a crazy muthaf-cker from the street"

Next to that, Blurred Lines seems positively tame.

4zn76tysfajdxp

AndonHandon wrote: »

?

Or two years ago. Whichever.

Irish Guitarist

I always thought it sampled Kiss by Prince.

valoren

Because I'm not Happy-yyyyyyy-eeee-yyyyy-eeeee-eeeeee.

Omackeral

Copy one person and it's called plagiarism. Copy a load of people and it's called research!