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Apparently being gay is not genetic?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    What's this thread about exactly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Women being born barren is not "supposed" to happen either. Being born diabetic is also not "supposed" to happen. Lot's of things that are not supposed to happen biologically, do. Should we tell these people too that they're an accident??:confused:
    The OP didn't say anyone was an accident. Your sensationalist response comes of like an exercise in the thank-my-outrage style of posting that gets way too much currency.

    The study indicates that homosexuality is not simply genetically determined, and in that sense, is an unintended outcome, at variance with what the foetal DNA "intended" to express. But what the DNA wrote was "mistranscribed" because of maternal hormones, and in that sense, homosexuality was not "supposed to" happen. But that's not a bad thing.

    If this theory it corrects, it neatly explains why homosexuality is inherited by the newborn, but not simply genetic.

    If I were gay I'd be very satisfied by this data. I'd feel like it explained something about me, and it really contradicts the teachings of the Church and , frankly, homophobes. I honestly don't get the rage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    conorh91 wrote: »
    The OP didn't say anyone was an accident. Your sensationalist response comes of like an exercise in the thank-my-outrage style of posting that gets way too much currency.

    The study indicates that homosexuality is not simply genetically determined, and in that sense, is an unintended outcome, at variance with what the foetal DNA "intended" to express. But what the DNA wrote was "mistranscribed" because of maternal hormones, and in that sense, homosexuality was not "supposed to" happen. But that's not a bad thing.

    If this theory it corrects, it neatly explains why homosexuality is inherited by the newborn, but not simply genetic.

    If I were gay I'd be very satisfied by this data. I'd feel like it explained something about me, and it really contradicts the teachings of the Church and , frankly, homophobes. I honestly don't get the rage.

    If it happens by definition it's supposed to happen.
    Unfortunate phraseology,intentional or not.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9 Lakefrio


    Homosexuality could be a defect or it could be an evolutionary Strategy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    kneemos wrote: »
    If it happens by definition it's supposed to happen.
    Unfortunate phraseology,intentional or not.
    That's why I used inverted commas. Obviously, nature doesn't formulate intentions.

    In this case 'intention' = a genetic map
    'not supposed to happen' = deviation from a (genetically) predetermined pathway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    conorh91 wrote: »
    That's why I used inverted commas. Obviously, nature doesn't formulate intentions.

    In this case 'intention' = a genetic map
    'not supposed to happen' = deviation from a (genetically) predetermined pathway.

    No more a deviation than blue eyes or flaky skin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    kneemos wrote: »
    No more a deviation than blue eyes or flaky skin.
    Not typically no, I think it would be very unusual for eye colour to have an environmental component. Not sure about 'flaky' skin.

    As far as I know, the recent study on homosexuality indicates it is fully epigenetic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    My looks turn people gay :cool:










    Turn women gay, that is..... :(

    I'm with ya brother. Apparently that is genetic though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    conorh91 wrote: »

    Now you'd normally expect gay people to feel vindicated by this, it indicates there is no element of choice or upbringing involved.

    AH on the other hand... no idea what the problem is. They don't like the poster it seems.

    Yeah, I'm not sure I understand the AH reaction, I think it's an interesting subject.

    But I think possibly the responses are because people are suspicious of the OP's motivations for posting about this subject and that's coming across.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    conorh91 wrote: »
    Not typically no, I think it would be very unusual for eye colour to have an environmental component. Not sure about 'flaky' skin.

    As far as I know, the recent study on homosexuality indicates it is fully epigenetic.

    Not a deviation is what I'm saying.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Mod: if you genuinely were interested in discussing genetics, there's a heap of science forums for you to choose from. Pretending you're only interested in sharing the article in after hours isn't going to be believed by anyone.


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