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RTE Coverage of the Boston Bombing Trial

  • 06-03-2015 01:01PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭


    I watched RTE News coverage of the Boston Bombing trial last night where they stated as fact that three people were killed and 264 people were injured in the bombings.

    How can RTE state this as fact without verifying their story or giving corroborating evidence when research shows there is a very high likelihood that the Boston Bombing was yet another setup?

    The US Government or the US media cannot be considered reliable sources as they have continued to cover up of their obvious role in the 911 tragedy. Do the Irish media have an agenda to simply go along with the US official story or are they too lazy to check out a few videos on YouTube?

    The first video link I provide shows some mildly graphic scenes immediately after the bomb exploded near the finish line.
    Note the position of the lady with the red jacket and blue circle on her top positioned to the left in the last two photos.
    In the second last photo (after 1 minute) we can see the guy lying behind her with both legs (apparently prosthetic), looking relaxed and wearing a hat and sunglasses to disguise his face.
    In the gory last photo (after 2 minutes) we can see the same guy, slightly closer to the lady in the previous photo, minus his hat, glasses, and his regular prosthetic legs and holding a prosthetic limb designed to look like it has a bone sticking out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_ycItkYuY

    In the second video link I provide you can see how multiple references made in an episode of Family Guy entitled Turban Cowboy, which was aired only 19 days before the Boston bombing, prove that there was either definite evidence of prior knowledge to the event or that the shows creator, Seth McFarlane (who also conveniently missed one of the the flights which were allegedly hijacked on 911), is a clairvoyant.
    Please be warned there are some graphic references to Robin Williams' alleged suicide in this video and there may also be some language that people find offensive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X289sq1pLk

    Before I am advised to move this thread to conspiracy theories I do not see the necessity of doing so as the word theory indicates something unproven and I feel I have presented enough evidence here to support my claim that the official story should not be accepted without proper investigation.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    I thought my last sentence would save me from re-direction?

    I just thought I might get a more balanced response if I posted that here as Conspiracy Theorists aren't uniformly embraced and besides I didn't present a theory I presented evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭goldenhoarde


    omnithanos wrote: »
    I thought my last sentence would save me from re-direction?

    I just thought I might get a more balanced response if I posted that here as Conspiracy Theorists aren't uniformly embraced and besides I didn't present a theory I presented evidence.


    While some might say interesting, i don't see any actual evidence especially in the Family Guy stuff that would make a court room which is where RTE are reporting from, and doing their job reporting the news, they don't get to make it :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    I would be happier if RTE were to say that it had been reported that so many had died and so many were injured instead of stating it as if it were fact when it has never been proven that such number were killed or injured.

    We are fed far too much disinformation.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    omnithanos wrote: »
    I thought my last sentence would save me from re-direction?

    I just thought I might get a more balanced response if I posted that here as Conspiracy Theorists aren't uniformly embraced and besides I didn't present a theory I presented evidence.

    It's still a theory. Also why single out RTE? Every reputable news organisation in the world reported the tragic loss of life at the Boston Marathon and they will all report the court proceedings. Conspiracy theories notwithstanding.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    If RTE are collecting my licence fee then I expect them report facts not hearsay.

    I wouldn't call any news organisation reputable who doesn't at least do this. And a little bit of research into the anomalies wouldn't go amiss.

    There's enough video evidence online showing the same fake kid dummy hanging out of two different ladies, guys passing out blood packets to squirt on the alleged injured victims, people running pushing injured people in wheelchairs but stopping when they think they are out of camera shot, that same dude in the video I posted sitting up in a wheelchair fully conscious after both his legs were allegedly blown off, a little girl who later had her leg amputated standing on two legs (one being a prosthetic hidden under her jeans) after the bomb went off etc. for it to at least look a bit dodgy.

    All the guy on trial appears to me to be guilty of is being a patsy for the CIA but that's just my opinion. Video evidence shows him leaving the scene with his backpack shouldn't that have been dumped if it contained the bomb? Also how is he going to get a fair trial if the court house is full of crisis actors?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Exactly, what they reported were facts, I'd be pretty concerned if they started reporting these conspiracy theories as facts to be honest. Because let's be honest, the stuff you've posted above proves absolutely nothing other than the fact that there are some pretty paranoid and deluded people in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    RTE will run and run with this for months to keep their Washington correspondant busy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    What exactly are you disputing here? The amount of people who were injured? The amount of people who died?

    Surely if it was all a big set up by the authorities or whoever, they would have reported the death toll as a lot higher?

    What does what you posted prove? That a smaller number were injured? Maybe there was but currently the official figures state that 264 people were injured and 3 killed so until there is any type of real evidence to disprove this, then I'm going to agree that what RTE is reporting is fact.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Exactly, what they reported were facts, I'd be pretty concerned if they started reporting these conspiracy theories as facts to be honest. Because let's be honest, the stuff you've posted above proves absolutely nothing other than the fact that there are some pretty paranoid and deluded people in the world.

    How do you know it is a fact that that many people were killed and injured?
    Because the media told you so?

    Where is your proof?


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Give me a second to me Google some you tube videos, preferably of some mediocre cartoon and present that as fact.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    What exactly are you disputing here? The amount of people who were injured? The amount of people who died?

    Surely if it was all a big set up by the authorities or whoever, they would have reported the death toll as a lot higher?

    What does what you posted prove? That a smaller number were injured? Maybe there was but currently the official figures state that 264 people were injured and 3 killed so until there is any type of real evidence to disprove this, then I'm going to agree that what RTE is reporting is fact.

    Where is the evidence to prove that anybody was actually injured?

    Watch the videos and it's obvious the whole this was a complete set up. I doubt anybody was injured.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Give me a second to me Google some you tube videos, preferably of some mediocre cartoon and present that as fact.

    The cartoon I posted predicts the events of Boston 19 days before they happened which suggests it was all planned.

    You could try posting some cartoon planes to prove what happened on 911 if you like.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Which is exactly why this should be in CT forum and not news and media.

    Where is your proof? There are plenty of you tube videos of the explosions and of people with missing limbs, people who have lost loved ones. If you tube is deemed enough as "proof" there are plenty of such videos around.

    I find your whole attitude pretty disgusting to be honest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    adrian522 wrote: »
    Which is exactly why this should be in CT forum and not news and media.

    Where is your proof? There are plenty of you tube videos of the explosions and of people with missing limbs, people who have lost loved ones. If you tube is deemed enough as "proof" there are plenty of such videos around.

    I find your whole attitude pretty disgusting to be honest.

    They are all videos of fake injuries and they aren't real bombs. If you search properly you can see people getting fake prosthetic limbs attached and there is no blood on the ground immediately after the explosion, it's put there after. I wouldn't be suggesting any of this if I wasn't convinced that any of it was real.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    omnithanos wrote: »
    The cartoon I posted predicts the events of Boston 19 days before they happened which suggests it was all planned.

    You could try posting some cartoon planes to prove what happened on 911 if you like.

    Suggests not proves. Again, where is your proof?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    omnithanos wrote: »
    They are all videos of fake injuries and they aren't real bombs. If you search properly you can see people getting fake prosthetic limbs attached and there is no blood on the ground immediately after the explosion, it's put there after. I wouldn't be suggesting any of this if I wasn't convinced that any of it was real.

    :D

    So all the videos of the bombing are fake? And all the crackpot conspiracy theory videos are all genuine?

    That's your theory? And this doesn't belong in CT forum why exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭crusier


    omnithanos wrote: »
    I watched RTE News coverage of the Boston Bombing trial last night where they stated as fact that three people were killed and 264 people were injured in the bombings.

    How can RTE state this as fact without verifying their story or giving corroborating evidence when research shows there is a very high likelihood that the Boston Bombing was yet another setup?

    The US Government or the US media cannot be considered reliable sources as they have continued to cover up of their obvious role in the 911 tragedy. Do the Irish media have an agenda to simply go along with the US official story or are they too lazy to check out a few videos on YouTube?

    The first video link I provide shows some mildly graphic scenes immediately after the bomb exploded near the finish line.
    Note the position of the lady with the red jacket and blue circle on her top positioned to the left in the last two photos.
    In the second last photo (after 1 minute) we can see the guy lying behind her with both legs (apparently prosthetic), looking relaxed and wearing a hat and sunglasses to disguise his face.
    In the gory last photo (after 2 minutes) we can see the same guy, slightly closer to the lady in the previous photo, minus his hat, glasses, and his regular prosthetic legs and holding a prosthetic limb designed to look like it has a bone sticking out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_ycItkYuY

    In the second video link I provide you can see how multiple references made in an episode of Family Guy entitled Turban Cowboy, which was aired only 19 days before the Boston bombing, prove that there was either definite evidence of prior knowledge to the event or that the shows creator, Seth McFarlane (who also conveniently missed one of the the flights which were allegedly hijacked on 911), is a clairvoyant.
    Please be warned there are some graphic references to Robin Williams' alleged suicide in this video and there may also be some language that people find offensive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X289sq1pLk

    Before I am advised to move this thread to conspiracy theories I do not see the necessity of doing so as the word theory indicates something unproven and I feel I have presented enough evidence here to support my claim that the official story should not be accepted without proper investigation.

    Reference No US/BB 425478


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I thought this thread was going to be about how terrible the RTÉ reporter over in Boston is!!

    She can't seem to get a single report out without fluffing her lines, making mistakes, and just generally looking like she's never reported news ever in her life!.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    adrian522 wrote: »
    :D

    So all the videos of the bombing are fake? And all the crackpot conspiracy theory videos are all genuine?

    That's your theory? And this doesn't belong in CT forum why exactly?

    No the videos are the same except some are edited to look like it was a real bombing and the other videos attempt to disprove this by catching the crisis actors out, many of whom are amputee actors.

    I'm not here to prove anything. I'm just making the comment that news agencies shouldn't just serve us up a story and expect us to accept it as the truth without verification.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I have serious doubts about the official story peddled about 9/11,

    but I really think your clutching at straws here chief..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    I have serious doubts about the official story peddled about 9/11,

    but I really think your clutching at straws here chief..

    Fair enough. I've watched a ton of them at this stage so I'm convinced anyway.

    I actually made an error with the first video I posted for which I apologise but it doesn't change my opinion. The guy without the legs is not the same as the guy with the sunglasses. The amputee is being shielded from view by the black lady on the ground in the second last picture. Other videos show the Sunglasses guy then moves over and attaches the fake injured looking leg to the amputee. Look it up if you like or don't look it up. No offence intended to anyone who actually suffered injuries, I think one guy got a bit of a redness on his face from the initial blast.

    So why is it anyway that it is up to so called conspiracy theorists to prove these things when the likes of the US government actually go out of their way to cover things up. Shouldn't the onus of proof be on them also or are we all expected to swallow all their lies when things don't exactly add up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    omnithanos wrote: »
    Shouldn't the onus of proof be on them

    I think thats the whole point of the trial?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    omnithanos wrote: »
    Where is the evidence to prove that anybody was actually injured?

    Watch the videos and it's obvious the whole this was a complete set up. I doubt anybody was injured.


    Oh I don't know maybe the people in court with missing limbs?! Do you honestly think that that amount of people will lie & fake having missing limbs for something like this? Really? Coz that's worrying if you do.

    And what about the people who lost someone?

    How about hospital records, blood all over the ground, limbs being visible separated from people's bodies.

    If it is a lie - then there would be a massive issue of it leaking out considering the number of people who'd have to be in on the lie in order to make it look real. And what's the benefit to them? Because people don't just do things for no benefit at all to them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    omnithanos wrote: »
    I watched RTE News coverage of the Boston Bombing trial last night where they stated as fact that three people were killed and 264 people were injured in the bombings.

    How can RTE state this as fact without verifying their story or giving corroborating evidence when research shows there is a very high likelihood that the Boston Bombing was yet another setup?

    The US Government or the US media cannot be considered reliable sources as they have continued to cover up of their obvious role in the 911 tragedy. Do the Irish media have an agenda to simply go along with the US official story or are they too lazy to check out a few videos on YouTube?

    The first video link I provide shows some mildly graphic scenes immediately after the bomb exploded near the finish line.
    Note the position of the lady with the red jacket and blue circle on her top positioned to the left in the last two photos.
    In the second last photo (after 1 minute) we can see the guy lying behind her with both legs (apparently prosthetic), looking relaxed and wearing a hat and sunglasses to disguise his face.
    In the gory last photo (after 2 minutes) we can see the same guy, slightly closer to the lady in the previous photo, minus his hat, glasses, and his regular prosthetic legs and holding a prosthetic limb designed to look like it has a bone sticking out.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU_ycItkYuY

    In the second video link I provide you can see how multiple references made in an episode of Family Guy entitled Turban Cowboy, which was aired only 19 days before the Boston bombing, prove that there was either definite evidence of prior knowledge to the event or that the shows creator, Seth McFarlane (who also conveniently missed one of the the flights which were allegedly hijacked on 911), is a clairvoyant.
    Please be warned there are some graphic references to Robin Williams' alleged suicide in this video and there may also be some language that people find offensive.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X289sq1pLk

    Before I am advised to move this thread to conspiracy theories I do not see the necessity of doing so as the word theory indicates something unproven and I feel I have presented enough evidence here to support my claim that the official story should not be accepted without proper investigation.

    How much skunk are you consuming?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    Oh I don't know maybe the people in court with missing limbs?! Do you honestly think that that amount of people will lie & fake having missing limbs for something like this? Really? Coz that's worrying if you do.

    And what about the people who lost someone?

    How about hospital records, blood all over the ground, limbs being visible separated from people's bodies.

    If it is a lie - then there would be a massive issue of it leaking out considering the number of people who'd have to be in on the lie in order to make it look real. And what's the benefit to them? Because people don't just do things for no benefit at all to them.

    The people in court with missing limbs can be identified as pre existing amputees.
    There are websites where you can hire crisis actors and amputee actors.
    Many of the same crisis actors have been identified in more than one government staged event of this nature such as 911, Boston, Sandy Creek etc.
    Only three people were reported as being killed. Identities could have been altered as in 911. For example of the 19 supposed terrorists who hijacked the four planes on 911, 10 are still alive and no explanation for this was given by the US government.
    The hospital could have been shut down by the government, fake records can be manufactured and the blood on the ground was obviously fake. Videos show that the blood wasn't there immediately after the bomb went off at the finish line.
    Other videos show the organisers of this carrying bags of fake blood and victims can be seen with no blood on their face and limbs immediately after the explosion but they have blood all over their face and limbs when they are wheeled out afterwards.
    There are dozens of videos on youtube exposing this fraud. I would suggest that people watch these before rejecting the possibility.
    The benefit to the fraudsters is that they each have a charity webpage dedicated to them which has taken in millions of dollars from the charitable american public in donations.
    The benefit to the US government was to establish martial law in Boston so that they could enter peoples homes and confiscate arms etc. in order to gauge the response of citizens when their constitutional rights are denied.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    omnithanos wrote: »
    The benefit to the US government was to establish martial law in Boston so that they could enter peoples homes and confiscate arms etc. in order to gauge the response of citizens when their constitutional rights are denied.

    To what end?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 710 ✭✭✭omnithanos


    my friend wrote: »
    To what end?

    That would be just speculation.
    I'd like to encourage healthy logical investigation into events such as these in order to establish the true facts. If inconsistencies exist in official stories they should obviously be investigated and not covered up.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    omnithanos wrote: »
    That would be just speculation.

    That would be speculation? All the rest of it is factual is it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    omnithanos wrote: »
    The people in court with missing limbs can be identified as pre existing amputees.
    There are websites where you can hire crisis actors and amputee actors.
    Many of the same crisis actors have been identified in more than one government staged event of this nature such as 911, Boston, Sandy Creek etc.
    Only three people were reported as being killed. Identities could have been altered as in 911. For example of the 19 supposed terrorists who hijacked the four planes on 911, 10 are still alive and no explanation for this was given by the US government.
    The hospital could have been shut down by the government, fake records can be manufactured and the blood on the ground was obviously fake. Videos show that the blood wasn't there immediately after the bomb went off at the finish line.
    Other videos show the organisers of this carrying bags of fake blood and victims can be seen with no blood on their face and limbs immediately after the explosion but they have blood all over their face and limbs when they are wheeled out afterwards.
    There are dozens of videos on youtube exposing this fraud. I would suggest that people watch these before rejecting the possibility.
    The benefit to the fraudsters is that they each have a charity webpage dedicated to them which has taken in millions of dollars from the charitable american public in donations.
    The benefit to the US government was to establish martial law in Boston so that they could enter peoples homes and confiscate arms etc. in order to gauge the response of citizens when their constitutional rights are denied.

    I'm sorry but I don't buy that. Money is a great motivator but it will not keep people silent for that long. And their families too? No it actually doesn't make sense what so ever.

    I'm not bringing any other incidents into this as I do think there could be questions about some of them but I don't understand Boston as a target or why, if there was a fear to be struck, they wouldn't have put the death toll higher.

    To me, any footage that I've seen, the blood looks pretty damn real. But why should I believe videos on youtube claiming it's not real but you won't entertain the notion that maybe, just maybe, someone did something terrible and set off bombs at the marathon? Why should I come round to your way of thinking on it?

    And if you do any actual reading on it, you'd note that the "martial law" was actually just a request for people to stay indoors while the hunt for the suspects was ongoing. No one was forced to stay indoors at all. There were some public spaces locked down & closed but if a bombing had just occurred and the suspects were at large, then it makes a lot of sense to close off other potential target areas.
    omnithanos wrote: »
    That would be just speculation.
    I'd like to encourage healthy logical investigation into events such as these in order to establish the true facts. If inconsistencies exist in official stories they should obviously be investigated and not covered up.

    But would you honestly believe any investigation that happens? Who should investigate them? If that came back saying that what is being said, did indeed happen, would you accept that or would you then claim that the investigation you're calling for was a cover up? Where does it actually end?


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