Hotel Residents Bars

Gael23

I was at a large function in a hotel last Saturday night. I called it a night at 5.30am at which point drinks were still flowing. Is there a time at which these bars must stop serving like in most pubs,nightclubs

foxy06

Where? WHERE???

Mint Sauce

Gael23 wrote: »

I was at a large function in a hotel last Saturday night. I called it a night at 5.30am at which point drinks were still flowing. Is there a time at which these bars must stop serving like in most pubs,nightclubs

It may just depend on the Hotel. Any I have been to were advertised as 4 or 5 am, but then again, have still been in plenty at 5.30 as well. Suppose if there is still a crowd there they keep serving.

lertsnim

It's up to the hotel. Some I've stayed in closed before 12.30am while others closed an hour before breakfast.

The Backwards Man

What time is closing time in your house?

senordingdong

Technically it's private (residents only) so regular restrictions don't apply?

LDN_Irish

Yeah senordingdong is correct. I've been at residents bars where they claim they can/will keep the bar open 24 hours. I'm always asleep before I find out if they'll keep their promise

hatrickpatrick

That's why a lot of nightclubs which operate out of hotels are able to stay open basically as late as they want. Coppers for instance is actually the bar of the Jackson Court Hotel, and the stamp or wristband they give you is the same one they give to residents, so technically they can't be shut down for being open all night.

Fantastic loophole in my view. Time restrictions on licensed premises are ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

fleet_admiral

They called last orders at 8am at my wedding

harry Bailey esq

senordingdong wrote: »

Technically it's private (residents only) so regular restrictions don't apply?

Technically yes,but normally its at the night porters discretion.For example,if your a happy drunk the chap will gladly serve you until the bacon and eggs hits the pan the next morning,laugh at all your jokes and disregard smoking laws.If however your a sloppy drinker who acts the pr1ck you wont get treated the with same reverence

anncoates

The country ones always seem more flexible than Dublin, in my experience. The one at our wedding stayed open until about 6 or 7 IIRC.

fleet_admiral

anncoates wrote: »

The country ones always seem more flexible than Dublin, in my experience. The one at our wedding stayed open until about 6 or 7 IIRC.

Maybe that is because of what the Dublin councils charge for the permit. We paid €250 to Wicklow County council for the late extension but I was told its a lot more expensive in Dublin

SEPT 23 1989

Gael23 wrote: »

I was at a large function in a hotel last Saturday night. I called it a night at 5.30am at which point drinks were still flowing. Is there a time at which these bars must stop serving like in most pubs,nightclubs

a few more pints would have got you through to the first serving of breakfast

Tarzana2

fleet_admiral wrote: »

They called last orders at 8am at my wedding

Nice.

ted1

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

That's why a lot of nightclubs which operate out of hotels are able to stay open basically as late as they want. Coppers for instance is actually the bar of the Jackson Court Hotel, and the stamp or wristband they give you is the same one they give to residents, so technically they can't be shut down for being open all night.

Fantastic loophole in my view. Time restrictions on licensed premises are ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

That's rubbish, yes they can be shut down for serving and having none resudents

FunLover18

senordingdong wrote: »

Technically it's private (residents only) so regular restrictions don't apply?

This. As long as they're residents. I worked in a residents bar and we had to be very strict about not serving non-residents after 2/2:30.

LDN_Irish wrote: »

Yeah senordingdong is correct. I've been at residents bars where they claim they can/will keep the bar open 24 hours. I'm always asleep before I find out if they'll keep their promise

It's not a claim. I had a hen party up till half 5. I eventually had to ask them to go to their rooms but only because I had to clean up the bar for the next day

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I hate hen parties

The_Valeyard

This seems to be the norm for weddings nowadays,

last three ive been at, ive been propping up the bar at 4.30am and had to call it a night.

For Forks Sake

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Maybe that is because of what the Dublin councils charge for the permit. We paid €250 to Wicklow County council for the late extension but I was told its a lot more expensive in Dublin

Rookie mistake. Should've bribed the night porter instead.

fleet_admiral

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Rookie mistake. Should've briber the night porter instead.

Unfortunately, it was out of the hotels hands

AnonoBoy

This place... this hotel lounge.... will be the death of me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoKB-v_GgEQ

AnonoBoy

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Maybe that is because of what the Dublin councils charge for the permit. We paid €250 to Wicklow County council for the late extension but I was told its a lot more expensive in Dublin

That's a late bar extension.

A residents bar doesn't need an extension, it can legally serve all night to residents of the hotel.

Gael23

It was in Mayo and there was a a lot of people so it would have been impossible to operate a policy of only serving residents. I was in another Hotel in Waterford at a similar event about a year ago and they closed at 4am. I'd say they would have kept serving all night and maybe they did but I was asleep.

Senna

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

That's why a lot of nightclubs which operate out of hotels are able to stay open basically as late as they want. Coppers for instance is actually the bar of the Jackson Court Hotel, and the stamp or wristband they give you is the same one they give to residents, so technically they can't be shut down for being open all night.

Fantastic loophole in my view. Time restrictions on licensed premises are ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

Complete and utter rubbish

harry Bailey esq

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Rookie mistake. Should've bribed the night porter instead.

Bribery is a word that gets bandied about too often these days,i prefer the term 'greasing the wheels'

Aongus Von Bismarck

I never understand this. Why on earth do people feel the need to sit in a hotel lobby drunkenly downing pints of Smithwicks up til 5 or 6 in the morning.

I was at my cousin's wedding in May of last year in Portumna. It was a lovely affair. A beautiful ceremony and surprisingly a half-decent meal for the reception. I had a fantastic time chatting to some of my relations and letting them know how I was getting on in Frankfurt. Myself and my partner retired to bed fairly late, around 1am I think.

I was determined not to let the festivities interrupt my training regime, so rose at 0630 to go for a light 8k tempo session around the grounds of the hotel. The sight that greeted me in the lobby was nothing short of disgraceful. A bunch of slobs messily slurping down drinks. I went over and told them to cop on and go to bed. They could barely construct a coherent response. Slurring their words as they tried to justify their piggish actions.

Why on earth grown adults behave like that, I'll never know.

Frankfurt is great

ted1

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I never understand this. Why on earth do feel the need to sit in a hotel lobby drunkenly downing pints of Smithwicks up til 5 or 6 in the morning.

I was at my cousin's wedding in May of last year in Portumna. It was a lovely affair. A beautiful ceremony and surprisingly a half-decent meal for the reception. I had a fantastic time chatting to some of my relations and letting them know how I was getting on in Frankfurt. Myself and my partner retired to bed fairly late, around 1am I think.

I was determined not to let the festivities interrupt my training regime, so rose at 0630 to go for a light 8k tempo session around the grounds of the hotel. The sight that greeted me in the lobby was nothing short of disgraceful. A bunch of slobs messily slurping down drinks. I went over and told them to cop on and go to bed. They could barely construct a coherent response. Slurring their words as they tried to justify their piggish actions.

Why on earth grown adults behave like that, I'll never know.

A tad judgemental if people want to be preached too they go to mass.

johnny osbourne

Gael23 wrote: »

I was at a large function in a hotel last Saturday night. I called it a night at 5.30am at which point drinks were still flowing. Is there a time at which these bars must stop serving like in most pubs,nightclubs

never, i am a barman in a 5 star hotel, we serve all night long

The_Valeyard

johnny osbourne wrote: »

never, i am a barman in a 5 star hotel, we serve all night long

Probably usually for wedding though?

Aongus Von Bismarck

ted1 wrote: »

A tad judgemental if people want to be preached too they go to mass.

I didn't feel sorry for the gluttons who had probably had double digits worth of drinks at that stage. It was more the poor 17 year old night porter who was fetching the drinks for these immature adults who didn't know when to call it a day.

Sheep Lover

bluewolf wrote: »

Frankfurt is great

Ah we should all up sticks and go. I'm sure Angus wouldn't mind us bunking in for a while

Liam McPoyle

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I didn't feel sorry for the gluttons who had probably had double digits worth of drinks at that stage. It was more the poor 17 year old night porter who was fetching the drinks for these immature adults who didn't know when to call it a day.

You are so not getting an invitation to my wedding.

Aongus Von Bismarck

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Ah we should all up sticks and go. I'm sure Angus wouldn't mind us bunking in for a while

The least you could do is spell my name correctly if you're looking to stay at my plush apartment in the heart of European finance.

johnny osbourne

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Probably usually for wedding though?

its always a wedding

johnny osbourne

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

The least you could do is spell my name correctly if you're looking to stay at my plush apartment in the heart of European finance.

was redest du dennn fuer Quack

Sheep Lover

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

The least you could do is spell my name correctly if you're looking to stay at my plush apartment in the heart of European finance.

Sorry Angus, could you provide directions or will you be sending a magic carpet over?

Lia_lia

I used to work a hotel. The latest I ever got out of the residents bar (working!) was 6.30am. And this was a hotel that didn't do weddings!

Most Friday/Saturday night I'd be in there until 4ish. So not the worst. You could pretty much guarantee every night would end with auld people singing Irish ballads, was painful. I really don't miss hotel work at all. The late nights were the worst!

SEPT 23 1989

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I never understand this. Why on earth do people feel the need to sit in a hotel lobby drunkenly downing pints of Smithwicks up til 5 or 6 in the morning.

I was at my cousin's wedding in May of last year in Portumna. It was a lovely affair. A beautiful ceremony and surprisingly a half-decent meal for the reception. I had a fantastic time chatting to some of my relations and letting them know how I was getting on in Frankfurt. Myself and my partner retired to bed fairly late, around 1am I think.

I was determined not to let the festivities interrupt my training regime, so rose at 0630 to go for a light 8k tempo session around the grounds of the hotel. The sight that greeted me in the lobby was nothing short of disgraceful. A bunch of slobs messily slurping down drinks. I went over and told them to cop on and go to bed. They could barely construct a coherent response. Slurring their words as they tried to justify their piggish actions.

Why on earth grown adults behave like that, I'll never know.

I could imagine you Argus striding down through the reception area in your freshly ironed black red and gold tracksuit,blonde hair flowing down your back Kraftwerk pumping through the headphones on your way to your Morgen Verfassung

Sheep Lover

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I could imagine you Argus striding down through the reception area in your freshly ironed black red and gold tracksuit,blonde hair flowing down your back Kraftwerk pumping through the headphones on your way to your Morgen Verfassung

And everyone in the lobby absolutely bursting their bollox at the sight.

castletownman

I was at a wedding in a popular Midlands venue in the height of the hot summer last year and while our wedding was taking place in the main function room, there was also a lively enough private 21st party going on in the main bar. Naturally enough, in the time between the dinner finishing up and the band setting up, there was an over-lap of guests from the wedding into the bar (were actively encouraged to do so, and no complaints from the 21st contingent).

Anyway, wedding finished up at about 2AM and I was heading towards bed when I bumped into the night manager and chanced my arm by asking was there a resident's bar and he basically told me to tell the other wedding guests to hang around until the 21st crowd cleared and the bar staff cleaned up. Well after about 20 minutes hanging about the smoking area and me "guaranteeing" the wedding guests that the bar will be open for us in a second, lo and behold the lights of the bar turn back on and the doors swing open. Even had a spread of sandwiches and the works for us. Didn't get to bed till about 6AM.

But apparently it's common practise in this particular establishment, and wasn't just a once off gesture as a result of my legendary charm I will definitely host my wedding there if I ever oblige.

Grays Sports Almanac

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I had a fantastic time chatting to some of my relations and letting them know how I was getting on in Frankfurt.

Made the whole wedding for them I'd say.

ted1

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I didn't feel sorry for the gluttons who had probably had double digits worth of drinks at that stage. It was more the poor 17 year old night porter who was fetching the drinks for these immature adults who didn't know when to call it a day.

As opposed to the grown up who can't let himself unwind for one night.

Live and let live. They think your weird and you think their weird.

The 17 year old member of staff , is well, a member of staff whose job it is, is too serve them.

shruikan2553

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I didn't feel sorry for the gluttons who had probably had double digits worth of drinks at that stage. It was more the poor 17 year old night porter who was fetching the drinks for these immature adults who didn't know when to call it a day.

ah come on, dont break character by showing a person sympathy. Surely the 17 year old should be striving to work as much as possible so that they can learn what it takes to be successful in Germany. None of this lazy 40 hours a week that the Irish love as they fail to get anywhere in life, stuck driving their cheap BMWs in ill fitting suits.

hatrickpatrick

ted1 wrote: »

That's rubbish, yes they can be shut down for serving and having none resudents

I'm sure legally they can, but realistically how is anyone going to go in and sort residents from non-residents? It's too much hassle, hence the loophole.

Put it another way: You never see lock-ins in the hotel based nightclubs, they just openly stay open all night. Other clubs on the same strip which are not part of hotels have to do the whole secretive "look like it's closed" stuff, shutters down, exit only through the back alleyway, etc.

johnny osbourne

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

The least you could do is spell my name correctly if you're looking to stay at my plush apartment in the heart of European finance.

ach du meine goette, was machen sie in Henry Street.?

Gael23

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I never understand this. Why on earth do people feel the need to sit in a hotel lobby drunkenly downing pints of Smithwicks up til 5 or 6 in the morning.

We only have events like this about 3 times a year so whenever everyone is together it's always a long night,

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Probably usually for wedding though?

This crowd was bigger than any wedding, obviously as the night went on the crowd thinned out but at 5:30 when I left there was roughly 20 people still there.

Sunnyisland

Sure if everyone is happy and enjoying themselfs, what's the harm, nowadays love looking at the big heads and hangovers the next day, it brings back so many memories :-)

Sheep Lover

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Ah we should all up sticks and go. I'm sure Angus wouldn't mind us bunking in for a while

Totally worth it for the rosé apfelwein

minidazzler

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

That's why a lot of nightclubs which operate out of hotels are able to stay open basically as late as they want. Coppers for instance is actually the bar of the Jackson Court Hotel, and the stamp or wristband they give you is the same one they give to residents, so technically they can't be shut down for being open all night.

Fantastic loophole in my view. Time restrictions on licensed premises are ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.

This is false. Having a stamp doesn't make you a resident.... They can flout the law because of their friendly relationship with cops. Their SEO still expires at 230 like the rest of the country it's just not enforced.

PrettyBoy

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I had a fantastic time chatting to some of my relations and letting them know how I was getting on in Frankfurt. Myself and my partner retired to bed fairly late, around 1am I think.

I was determined not to let the festivities interrupt my training regime, so rose at 0630 to go for a light 8k tempo session around the grounds of the hotel.

This made me laugh

Gael23

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

a few more pints would have got you through to the first serving of breakfast

I think some people actually used that method! We're doing it again next weekend in a different place so will try and stay for longer!