Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

duskyjoe

Locker10a wrote: »

Why? It's not unreasonable for the public to see/hear about aircraft maintenance.

Absolutely, agree 100%, but there's a big but.......the word corrosion is life blood for hacks writing sh/te.....that was my angle and I should have explained this earlier.

billy few mates

Wing skin corrosion is a common or garden finding on metal airplanes and hardly front page news even on modern Airbus aircraft, it just occurs and it's easily dealt with. The delays often occur because the manufacturer usually makes you go through them for the repair or limits. Probably their way to monitor the extent of the problem on the fleet worldwide. The repairs themselves are usually fairly simple and straightforward.

goingnowhere

For all that fuss, EI-CVC is back flying, back shuttling between DUB and LHR all day. This is fairly routine repair really.

PukkaStukka

Something go tech with EI??

From RTE news:

Over 600 passengers affected as fault halts Aer Lingus jet

Around 660 Aer Lingus passengers had their travel plans disrupted over the last 24 hours due to a technical issue with one of its aircraft.

A flight from Dublin to JFK Airport in New York and the subsequent return flight from JFK to Dublin were cancelled yesterday due to what an Aer Lingus spokesman called "a technical issue with one of the aircraft in the fleet".

Around 600 passengers in total on the flight to New York and on the return flight were reaccommodated the spokesman said.

Earlier today an Air Lingus flight from Dublin to Orlando, using the same aircraft, an Airbus A330, was also cancelled for the same reason, the spokesperson said, with 66 passengers affected.

john boye

PukkaStukka wrote: »

Something go tech with EI??

From RTE news:

Over 600 passengers affected as fault halts Aer Lingus jet

Around 660 Aer Lingus passengers had their travel plans disrupted over the last 24 hours due to a technical issue with one of its aircraft.

A flight from Dublin to JFK Airport in New York and the subsequent return flight from JFK to Dublin were cancelled yesterday due to what an Aer Lingus spokesman called "a technical issue with one of the aircraft in the fleet".

Around 600 passengers in total on the flight to New York and on the return flight were reaccommodated the spokesman said.

Earlier today an Air Lingus flight from Dublin to Orlando, using the same aircraft, an Airbus A330, was also cancelled for the same reason, the spokesperson said, with 66 passengers affected.

Not sure if it's related, but I think LAX went tech in ORD on Sunday. Saw some complaints on twitter.

L1011

Moved some more relevant posts over

Locker10a

PukkaStukka wrote: »

Something go tech with EI??

From RTE news:

Over 600 passengers affected as fault halts Aer Lingus jet

Around 660 Aer Lingus passengers had their travel plans disrupted over the last 24 hours due to a technical issue with one of its aircraft.

A flight from Dublin to JFK Airport in New York and the subsequent return flight  from JFK to Dublin were cancelled yesterday due to what an Aer Lingus spokesman called "a technical issue with one of the aircraft in the fleet".

Around 600 passengers in total on the flight to New York and on the return flight were reaccommodated the spokesman said.

Earlier today an Air Lingus flight from Dublin to Orlando, using the same aircraft, an Airbus A330, was also cancelled for the same reason, the spokesperson said, with 66 passengers affected.

Out of interest, what do EI tend to do in this situation ? Is their first port of call to draft in a sub aircraft from the likes of Titan or Hifly ? Or would it be to rebook as many passengers as possible on partner airlines? e.g. Via LHR on BA, or on other EI flights?

Jamie2k9

Re book onto partners (incl non partners) or just scrap SNN and re book those onto partners if it's prolonged.

useless

Only 66 passengers on the Orlando flight... in the school holidays. Can't see load factors like that making too much money for EI. I wonder if there really was a tech problem or if EI just deemed it uneconomical to fly those legs?

Locker10a

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Re book onto partners (incl non partners) or just scrap SNN and re book those onto partners if it's prolonged.

Thanks for the reply, I do find it interesting how these situations are dealt with, and does having partner airlines make a difference? Its also topical with regards to cost vs minimising the inconvenience to passengers.

Jamie2k9

useless wrote: »

Only 66 passengers on the Orlando flight... in the school holidays. Can't see load factors like that making too much money for EI. I wonder if there really was a tech problem or if EI just deemed it uneconomical to fly those legs?

There is a tech fault.

Not saw the loads on MCO, but any availability on other services today likely had MCO passengers transferred even prehaps to United because it will work out less costly.

EDIT - Checked and passengers were re routed, hence a low number on this evenings delayed departure.

Jamie2k9

Locker10a wrote: »

Thanks for the reply, I do find it interesting how these situations are dealt with, and does having partner airlines make a difference? Its also topical with regards to cost vs minimising the inconvenience to passengers.

Not sure if partners make a difference, them and non partners would always make a deal for example if Delta had 30 seats free they would cut EI a deal to take them all. Partners may be a little more price friendly or they could have an existing cost per seat in agreement in place.

It's also likely cheaper as sourcing an leased aircraft is not easy and takes time. With EU regulations keeping passengers waiting is very costly to carriers.

Tenger

useless wrote: »

Only 66 passengers on the Orlando flight... in the school holidays. Can't see load factors like that making too much money for EI. I wonder if there really was a tech problem or if EI just deemed it uneconomical to fly those legs?

2nd week of the holidays. I would expect they all went out last week and are coming back this week?
Maybe the return flight is full, or they moved passengers onto other flights and only had to cancel on the 66.

Locker10a

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

Thanks for the reply, I do find it interesting how these situations are dealt with, and does having partner airlines make a difference? Its also topical with regards to cost vs minimising the inconvenience to passengers.

Not sure if partners make a difference, them and non partners would always make a deal for example if Delta had 30 seats free they would cut EI a deal to take them all.  Partners may be a little more price friendly or they could have an existing cost per seat in agreement in place.

It's also likely cheaper as sourcing an leased aircraft is not easy and takes time.  With EU regulations keeping passengers waiting is very costly to carriers.

Thanks, that all makes sense!
The whole leasing in an airline/aircraft is fascinating to me, operations like Smartlynx and Titan seems really interesting. I often wonder do these airlines have a handbook of the major airlines they serve, how they operate, their levels of service etc. And how quickly they can be ready to go if they get a call from an airline who are short an aircraft.  An very different but interesting side to the airline game

marno21

As long as we don't see that Omni 767 again...

Locker10a

marno21 wrote: »

As long as we don't see that Omni 767 again...

Id welcome it over cancellation...

john boye

Just wondering, what livery has EI-EZW been operating in since it returned? EI or Brussels Airlines?

Locker10a

john boye wrote: »

Just wondering, what livery has EI-EZW been operating in since it returned? EI or Brussels Airlines?

Id have guessed it was all kitted out with Brussels airlines livery and cabin however I may be wrong, no recent photos seem to be online

john boye

Locker10a wrote: »

Id have guessed it was all kitted out with Brussels airlines livery and cabin however I may be wrong, no recent photos seem to be online

I'd have assumed so too but I actually saw it this morning and it turns out it's still in EI livery at least.

duskyjoe

Locker10a wrote: »

Out of interest, what do EI tend to do in this situation ? Is their first port of call to draft in a sub aircraft from the likes of Titan or Hifly ? Or would it be to rebook as many passengers as possible on partner airlines? e.g. Via LHR on BA, or on other EI flights?

Is it true punters were on board when flight cancelled ????

Locker10a

duskyjoe wrote: »

Locker10a wrote: »

Out of interest, what do EI tend to do in this situation ? Is their first port of call to draft in a sub aircraft from the likes of Titan or Hifly ? Or would it be to rebook as many passengers as possible on partner airlines? e.g. Via LHR on BA, or on other EI flights?

Is it true punters were on board when flight cancelled ????

Ive no idea, but this would be common with tech issues which are often noticed during checks during boarding. Most tech issues are sorted out with help from engineers after a short delay on the ground, however if it can't be sorted out then a flight may have to be cancelled, and this may well happen after boarding.

Bussywussy

duskyjoe wrote: »

Is it true punters were on board when flight cancelled ????

Yes.the 109,not the Orlando one.

Cloudio9

duskyjoe wrote: »

Is it true punters were on board when flight cancelled ????

Has happened to me before on EI-LAX

Board - An hour of engineering - Push back - taxi - return to stand - two more hours of engineering - Captain announces aircraft is unserviceable and everyone off

Bussywussy

Cloudio9 wrote: »

Has happened to me before on EI-LAX

Board - An hour of engineering - Push back - taxi - return to stand - two more hours of engineering - Captain announces aircraft is unserviceable and everyone off

Unfortunately it happens but safety first etc etc

PaulKK

Is this the same reason ei137 was cancelled Monday?

Going myself Saturday so hoping things are back to normal!

Bussywussy

PaulKK wrote: »

Is this the same reason ei137 was cancelled Monday?

Going myself Saturday so hoping things are back to normal!

No,different aircraft different problem.should be back to normal now

PaulKK

Thanks, good too know! Only booked the flight Tues and there were 3 seats left on the way out and 6 coming home so looks like loads are high.

Easy to imagine chaos with a cancellation!

Dreamliner XWB

Are any of the EI fleet set to be retired soon? I think some of them 320's should go. Just out of curiosity, when will the first 350's be delivered?

marno21

How long more are the 42s EI-EHH and EI-CBK staying around for? Both turn 27 this year.

Comhrá

Dreamliner XWB wrote: »

Are any of the EI fleet set to be retired soon? I think some of them 320's should go. Just out of curiosity, when will the first 350's be delivered?

As far as I can gather, EI won't now be getting any A350s as originally planned, they're going to be getting new A330s instead.