Would you pay to get your news off the web?

snollup

The Irish Times is going subscription based from next week, will you pay to use the site?

Me, probably will as it's the only half decent Irish news source.

Will you?

RobertKK

snollup wrote: »

The Irish Times is going subscription based from next week, will you pay to use the site?

Me, probably will as it's the only half decent Irish news source.

Will you?

No, the Irish Times is a most over rated news source.

Duke O Smiley

Absolutely not haha

What's next, subscription porn?

Menas

No, me neither. This is their second attempt at moving behind a pay wall. They were paywall on ireland.com up to mid 2008.
Cant see it working this time either.

Tiger Mcilroy

lol how ever will we get by?...its not like there is some sort of web that is world wide and has "web" sites that carry the same news..

Fr_Dougal

No.

Subscription based daily news doesn't work, people will not pay for it. The IT tried this a few years ago and reverted back to the free version but with advertising as the revenue generator. Most people will click on to another site for their news if they hit a pay wall.

H3llR4iser

Not a chance. In general, I find Irish news source to be pretty poor - bit too heavy on the internal and recreational news. I was pretty amused when the whole Ukraine crisis started - news sources from the whole world, obviously, headlined with it.

RTE and a few others in Ireland, they started with GAA results, then added an "oh, on unrelated news, WWIII might be brewing. But let's go back to water charges!"

Aongus Von Bismarck

Yes. A pure advertising model results in sites like thejournal.ie and the Daily Mail. Sensationalist clickbait with the permanently outraged posting their stupid moronic opinions underneath it.

Quality journalists deserve to be rewarded financially for their work. I'd be happy to pay for continued access to a relatively high-quality newspaper like the Times.

NIMAN

No.

snollup

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Not a chance. In general, I find Irish news source to be pretty poor - bit too heavy on the internal and recreational news. I was pretty amused when the whole Ukraine crisis started - news sources from the whole world, obviously, headlined with it.

RTE and a few others in Ireland, they started with GAA results, then added an "oh, on unrelated news, WWIII might be brewing. But let's go back to water charges!"

That's kind of why I might. There's plenty of sources for international news and they are better than any Irish sources but very few that offer Irish news in any detail (that I know of). Given the choice between RTE, Indo & the IT I reckon the IT wins.

P_1

Ah good ould incognito mode for Chrome...

Grayson

snollup wrote: »

That's kind of why I might. There's plenty of sources for international news and they are better than any Irish sources but very few that offer Irish news in any detail (that I know of). Given the choice between RTE, Indo & the IT I reckon the IT wins.

I subscribe online for a few things. The New Yorker and National Geographic for example. I've considered adding a sub for a couple of others as well but haven't yet.

i certainly wouldn't subscribe to an Irish Newspaper. they're second rate. their international news coverage is a joke and most of it is just wire reprints. It's copy journalism. I'd prefer to actually read something like the guardian and check the journal or breakingnews.ie for Irish news.

snollup

P_1 wrote: »

Ah good ould incognito mode for Chrome...

Will that bypass a paywall???

donegaLroad

I would not pay for this news service. The best news Irish news source is thejournal.ie or the Irish Examiner.

P_1

snollup wrote: »

Will that bypass a paywall???

Does for the Torygraph and seeing as the Times is going for the same technique (10 free articles a month) I'd imagine it will for them too.

The_Captain

I might do. Best news source in Ireland and I much prefer their attitude to news than Independent.ie (celebrity news and clickbait) thejournal (here's what people on twitter are talking about) or breakingnews (standard news aggregator just putting up any story it finds)

Grayson

P_1 wrote: »

Does for the Torygraph and seeing as the Times is going for the same technique (10 free articles a month) I'd imagine it will for them too.

i didn't realise that was the method they were using. Fecking noobs.

HamsterFace

donegaLroad wrote: »

I would not pay for this news service. The best news Irish news source is thejournal.ie or the Irish Examiner.

Lol

Yes love the journal, disagree with the negativity and you get called every name under the sun and stalked around social media

One thing I like about the new York times is the quality of opinions in the comments section. A lot of differing opinions, thank God, but the vast majority are reasoned and well thought out.

I put that at the fact that the 12 quid a month removes the permanently outraged, and aggressive, and abusive.

I hope to see an improvement in the Irish times are a result, I'll pay.

MonkeyTennis

Not a chance.

Aongus Von Bismarck

HamsterFace wrote: »

Lol

Yes love the journal, disagree with the negativity and you get called every name under the sun and stalked around social media

One thing I like about the new York times is the quality of opinions in the comments section. A lot of differing opinions, thank God, but the vast majority are reasoned and well thought out.

I put that at the fact that the 12 quid a month removes the permanently outraged, and aggressive, and abusive.

I hope to see an improvement in the Irish times are a result, I'll pay.

As you say yourself, I'd hope to see improvements in the quality of content. More long-form pieces and special supplements. The 'want everything but want to pay for nothing' crew can then stick to blaming the Government for everything and advocating a Shinner/Far-left paradise instead over on thejournal. A world where idiocy and outrage pass for enlightenment.

Skid X

Users will be able to read ten articles per week on each device before they are asked to sign up to a subscription package, with prices starting at €12 per month.

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2015/0217/680758-irish-times-paywall/


Chrome Incognito mode usually works well for those type of 'paywalls'.

Mr.Buzz

Depends, The Irish Times? No. But I do have a subscription running with NYTimes since they have interesting articles and limit on how many you can reed for free.

Darkglasses

Nope, 10 free articles a week is plenty for me.

Harry Palmr

Skid X wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2015/0217/680758-irish-times-paywall/


Chrome Incognito mode usually works well for those type of 'paywalls'.

Opera private tab likewise unless they have cottoned on to that trick.

KomradeBishop

There aren't really any newspapers I'd consider paying for - least of all Irish ones - as there is usually some big problem with their reporting that you gradually notice over time, or (especially in the case of Irish ones) they are relatively toothless, and don't do much truly challenging investigative/adversarial reporting or critical analysis.

There is far better quality stuff on niche sites - sites that actually depend upon donations for survival - and I pay a fair bit (effectively 'subscribe', even though it's free) to Yves Smith's Naked Capitalism blog:
www.nakedcapitalism.com

Effectively the best resource on the Internet, for critical analysis of economic and related political topics, and for gradually learning everything that is wrong with economics (and learning what is needed to reform economics, as well as present proper solutions to economic crisis).
It's critically important stuff, that you should be able to read in any newspaper, but which you rarely find entered into public discussion at all.

Son Of A Vidic

snollup wrote: »

The Irish Times is going subscription based from next week, will you pay to use the site?

Me, probably will as it's the only half decent Irish news source.

Will you?

I don't pay for my news and I don't intend to start now. For me, a subscription tends to pigeonhole you to the prevailing mindset & opinion of that singular news source. So to avoid that, I like to receive my new from multiple sources.

donegaLroad

HamsterFace wrote: »

Lol

Yes love the journal, disagree with the negativity and you get called every name under the sun and stalked around social media

One thing I like about the new York times is the quality of opinions in the comments section. A lot of differing opinions, thank God, but the vast majority are reasoned and well thought out.

I put that at the fact that the 12 quid a month removes the permanently outraged, and aggressive, and abusive.

I hope to see an improvement in the Irish times are a result, I'll pay.

I actually never posted on the journal, some of the debates are interesting, as for the Examiner, I would put it ahead of any other Irish newspaper / online news source.

Sciprio

Nope. Not a chance i'd pay for it seeing as i read the news online and i never even read the Irish Times so them going subscription based is nothing to me. And if i did read from a site that began to charge for it i'd just use another site.

Wacker The Attacker

I would consider paying for content if the content is of a standard that is worth paying for.

Day to day news is unlikely to fall into this category. There are other categories that are though.

ALiasEX

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Yes. A pure advertising model results in sites like thejournal.ie and the Daily Mail. Sensationalist clickbait with the permanently outraged posting their stupid moronic opinions underneath it.

Quality journalists deserve to be rewarded financially for their work. I'd be happy to pay for continued access to a relatively high-quality newspaper like the Times.

Why would a subscription prevent it from being like the Daily Mail? They will want to attract the most subscriptions and people are clearly willing to pay for the likes of the Daily Mail (the version made out of paper)

Mesrine65

Nope, in general I really don't give a fúck what's going on outside my wee bubble.

Apathy, the new lazy.

tritium

No, to be honest given some of the sad excuses for journalists that the IT employes I think sticking it safely behind a paywall is the best way.

Lack of balance, lack of truly critical analysis (with a few notable exceptions), lack of depth. Hopefully another paywall experiment might make the management realise that they need a bit of a purge.

There are a few good online sources I'll use and pay for, IT isn't one of them....

TheDoc

Nope. There is simply too many alternatives for news to succumb to a pay wall/subscription service.

If a news website is unable to maintain good revenue from advertisement, their digital content and digital marketing staff should be walked out of the building.

Areyouwell

snollup wrote: »

Would you pay to get your news off the web?

I'll not pay for something when I can have it for free.

The_Captain

I'll pay €2 for one physical copy of the paper, wouldn't actually mind having it on the kindle or wherever else for €3 a week come to think of it

Menas

tritium wrote: »

Lack of balance, lack of truly critical analysis (with a few notable exceptions), lack of depth.

Just as a matter of interest, which Irish news sites do offer this?

mikom

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

The 'want everything but want to pay for nothing' crew

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vicwatson

Too many ads and "click here" videos

spyderski

Nope.

shruikan2553

I'll just wait for it to come up on boards. Theres a few handy people that seem to trawl news sites for their agendas so its handy having it brought to me and if everyone calls out their crap I know to look elsewhere.

Tony EH

snollup wrote: »

The Irish Times is going subscription based from next week, will you pay to use the site?

Me, probably will as it's the only half decent Irish news source.

Will you?

Not in a million years.

BTW, didn't they used to be subscription based before? Over ten years ago? I distinctly have a memory of them trying that.


*edit* Yes, they were.

Turtwig

Can't think of any Irish newspaper I'd pay subscriptions to. They're utter shyte. If the Irish Times improves its quality I may reconsider. Doubt it though. It's in decline and if it can't improve in quality it should be put out to pasture.

Zippie84

snollup wrote: »

The Irish Times is going subscription based from next week, will you pay to use the site?

Me, probably will as it's the only half decent Irish news source.

Will you?

No.

padd b1975

I get my news from the radio.

Some of us are much too busy to spend our days refreshing a bloody computer screen.

Arsemageddon

The_Captain wrote: »

I'll pay €2 for one physical copy of the paper, wouldn't actually mind having it on the kindle or wherever else for €3 a week come to think of it

Same for me, I also tend to read more articles when I have the actual paper in my hands

DoYouEvenLift

Will they still have ads? If they charge a sub and still give people ads then they're fuking scumbags

C.K Dexter Haven

Bigger question, would people pay for the Daily Mail- maybe 20-50 cent per day? I fear, yes they would.

SMJSF

it's sad to see the newspaper/newspaper printing industry quickly going to the grave because of this free news we've all access to online.
but in less than probably 10 years, newspapers will be history, and the next generation will be shocked that you actually had to pay for print on a phyical piece of paper... even without colour at one stage!

C.K Dexter Haven

SMJSF wrote: »

it's sad to see the newspaper/newspaper printing industry quickly going to the grave because of this free news we've all access to online.
but in less than probably 10 years, newspapers will be history, and the next generation will be shocked that you actually had to pay for print on a phyical piece of paper... even without colour at one stage!

yes but- what news will they be getting then, and what will it be influenced by?

shruikan2553

C.K Dexter Haven wrote: »

yes but- what news will they be getting then, and what will it be influenced by?

The same things as now.

sheesh

thought about getting the finacial times once and I pay for IT training online I might actually