Son cannot get job in Sydney

reeta

Hi, my son went to Perth in October and all was great, work and pay good .However they decided to go to Sydney just before xmas and since then nothing ! Cannot get anything and is barely surviving (I am paying his rent but this cannot continue). He has registered with 4 agencies but whenever he rings them they say he is on "top of their list". At this point he can only survive another week and then will have to come home, which will be awful for him as his other 2 friends eventually found some work. Has anyone any advice on the best places to look for work etc. He has retail and call centre experience.

Batgurl

He just needs to wait it out unfortunately.

He was mad leaving a job just before xmas as most people know AU shuts down from mid Dec until after Australia day.

Plus hiring is slower here. 2-4 weeks from submitting a resume usually.

Can he go back to Perth? Is he still 'enjoying the lifestyle'? If you are paying his rent, is he making equal sacrifices?

jank

Yes, leaving a job at this time of the year wasn't the wisest move. Could he apply for labouring work?

Slunk

Try industrious recruitment. Irish girl in there always found me work. Just keep calling to see if there's any work.

reeta

Thanks for all the replies. Comments/advice noted. He totally agrees should not have left Perth, he did not know, but should have, that the jobs there are much harder to get. As for the sacrifices he is making well he cant go out or do anything he is on the internet all day sending out c.v.'s and making calls. He said he cant take any more money from us but I think to even give it two more weeks !!

Testament1

There's always casual labouring jobs on Gumtree. It may not be his cup of tea but if he could pick up something along those lines to get some cash in and then keep applying for the jobs he's interested in in the evenings after work.

Cheensbo

If he's not allergic to some hard work tell him to get a construction white card and phone these 2, and make sure he doesn't email for first contact:

EIR group - Labour hire agency who generally have a lot of work & pay good rates: http://eirgroup.com.au/

And conrec - same as above,a good agency to work for (did 4 months with them and they're A1 if you're A1), good rates & good jobs.
http://www.conrec.com.au/

reeta

Cheensbo wrote: »

If he's not allergic to some hard work tell him to get a construction white card and phone these 2, and make sure he doesn't email for first contact:

EIR group - Labour hire agency who generally have a lot of work & pay good rates: http://eirgroup.com.au/

And conrec - same as above,a good agency to work for (did 4 months with them and they're A1 if you're A1), good rates & good jobs.
http://www.conrec.com.au/

Thank you for this info. He will get a construction white card and phone the two places you have quoted. He is on gumtree constantly, according to him. Hopefully he will get something shortly.

brandnewaward

try exact recruitment in mascot , ask for kirk. top bloke , but the work is only a few days a week , but its a start

reeta

brandnewaward wrote: »

try exact recruitment in mascot , ask for kirk. top bloke , but the work is only a few days a week , but its a start

Brilliant, thanks... He got a days work labouring yesterday and they said there may be more work next week.. At least he can pay his rent/food next week. I will tell him to ring exact recruitment first thing monday morning.

jank

Good stuff, all you need is a foot in the door and work will come through. It is important to network and not be shy on what you can do. If he puts himself out there now there should be plenty of work for him.

reeta

Thanks for the replies and contacts. He rang the names given by a couple of people here and I am glad to say he working away doing labouring work at the moment. As he said "you cant beat mixing cement in 40 degree heat":D But
at least all his bills are paid and I can stop transferring money into this account !! Again many thanks for the contacts

Batgurl

Open to correction on this but it hasn't been 40 degrees in sydney since you wrote your original post?!?

Methinks your son is fond of poetic license which really wouldn't have helped a worried irish mammy half way across the globe when he says "ah I've no money and there's no work". Maybe take what he says with a pinch of salt in future

reeta

WOW what a comment to leave ! You have no idea whats being going on (and dont say neither have I because I actually do and not from him but from some of my colleagues who met up with him - I work for an Australian company) they also confirmed the heat there at the moment. Believe me I am not naive and take everything he tells me with a pinch of salt, but still why leave such a comment !

Thargor

Whats a labourer earning in Sydney these days if you dont mind me asking?

Batgurl

Said it to help you Rita. I have a mammy at home and if I thought for one second someone was worrying her unnecessarily I'd be mad. If I thought it was ME worrying her unnecessarily I'd hate myself. Mammys have enough to be worried about when you are so far away. You seem kind and generous helping him out so I thought a heads up would help. No need to bite my head off.

homemadecider

If your son is old enough to be in Australia on his own, surely he's big enough to get his own job? I suspect he is being indulged by an over-protective mammy.

Cheensbo

Thargor wrote: »

Whats a labourer earning in Sydney these days if you dont mind me asking?

With conrec : $24.15 basic + $17.00/day travel allowance

Think EIR was $24.95 basic no travel

Cheensbo

reeta wrote: »

Thanks for the replies and contacts. He rang the names given by a couple of people here and I am glad to say he working away doing labouring work at the moment. As he said "you cant beat mixing cement in 40 degree heat":D But
at least all his bills are paid and I can stop transferring money into this account !! Again many thanks for the contacts

Which crowd did he end up with?? If you don't mind my asking

con___manx1

He should try a website called backpackers job board. It usually has casual short term jobs but that website dug me out of a hole a few times when I was short of cash.

whupdedo

homemadecider wrote: »

If your son is old enough to be in Australia on his own, surely he's big enough to get his own job? I suspect he is being indulged by an over-protective mammy.

Everyone needs a little help from time to time, most good mothers are overprotective to some degree, I only hope if you (ever) have children you could offer them some assistance if it's needed, or would you let them tough it out and learn the hard way :rolleyes:

mandrake04

reeta wrote: »

WOW what a comment to leave ! You have no idea whats being going on (and dont say neither have I because I actually do and not from him but from some of my colleagues who met up with him - I work for an Australian company) they also confirmed the heat there at the moment. Believe me I am not naive and take everything he tells me with a pinch of salt, but still why leave such a comment !

In fairness Batgurl is 100% correct, the average max tempature during Jan & Feb 2015 was 27C. (feels like 20C at home)

The highest max tempeture was 35C and it only has went over 30C 5 times in the last 50 days.

It most deffnitely not 40C or no where near it. Thats a Fact.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201501/html/IDCJDW2124.201501.shtml

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201502/html/IDCJDW2124.201502.shtml

brandnewaward

mandrake04 wrote: »

In fairness Batgurl is 100% correct, the average max tempature during Jan & Feb 2015 was 27C. (feels like 20C at home)

The highest max tempeture was 35C and it only has went over 30C 5 times in the last 50 days.

It most deffnitely not 40C or no where near it. Thats a Fact.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201501/html/IDCJDW2124.201501.shtml

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201502/html/IDCJDW2124.201502.shtml

thats sydney city , the poor fecker could have been pouring concrete out west
those temp readings are measured in the rocks observatory , i was in bankstown on the 17th march and it was definitely closer to 40 degrees rather than 35.7

Cheensbo

Jaysus easy people,


I get what the youngfella meant, Im sure he's not out with the thermometer every day, but means "its fcuking hot here, especially when you're out pouring concrete all day"

lol at the bom figures

mandrake04

brandnewaward wrote: »

thats sydney city , the poor fecker could have been pouring concrete out west
those temp readings are measured in the rocks observatory , i was in bankstown on the 17th march and it was definitely closer to 40 degrees rather than 35.7

17th March is next month, unless you were talking about 17th January 2015. I'll call you on your 40C at Bankstown LOL

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201501/html/IDCJDW2008.201501.shtml it was actually 35.1C far from 40C

Sure you can get days that spike 40C but the avearge over the last 50 days was 27C in Sydney and yes it can vary out west but even if its in the valley around Penrith (which tends to be the hottest area in metro Sydney) it only varies about 3C.

Also yes the BOM figures are a bit of a stickler, no point shooting people down when the truth says otherwise.

brandnewaward

mandrake04 wrote: »

17th March is next month, unless you were talking about 17th January 2015. I'll call you on your 40C at Bankstown LOL

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201501/html/IDCJDW2008.201501.shtml it was actually 35.1C far from 40C

Sure you can get days that spike 40C but the avearge over the last 50 days was 27C in Sydney and yes it can vary out west but even if its in the valley around Penrith (which tends to be the hottest area in metro Sydney) it only varies about 3C.

Also yes the BOM figures are a bit of a stickler, no point shooting people down when the truth says otherwise.

march? whoops ? :P having said that , the humidity is a bitch lately.

AngryHippie

Come to QLD and play with Marcia !

Mellor

Cheensbo wrote: »

I get what the youngfella meant, Im sure he's not out with the thermometer every day, but means "its fcuking hot here, especially when you're out pouring concrete all day"

I'm sure most knew what it meant, and that it was a bit of exaggeration.
But at the same time, "You have no idea whats being going on...I work for an Australian company", was a ridiculous reaction to somebody who is actually in Australia.

DrGreenthumb

i'll give you the same advice I'd give your son,

get a cup of concrete into you princess

reeta

Ok Sorry I just thought it a strange comment to make, believe me the last few weeks have been a nightmare, and probably more for me than him ! I just wanted to thank everyone on boards because the contacts I was given is where he got work. Obviously being an irish mammy makes me sensitive

reeta

homemadecider wrote: »

If your son is old enough to be in Australia on his own, surely he's big enough to get his own job? I suspect he is being indulged by an over-protective mammy.

Possibly

reeta

Mellor wrote: »

I'm sure most knew what it meant, and that it was a bit of exaggeration.
But at the same time, "You have no idea whats being going on...I work for an Australian company", was a ridiculous reaction to somebody who is actually in Australia.

You have taken that out of context, I meant you have no idea the affect this has had on me, yes possibly an over protective mother (actually no doubt) but I know there were days when he had no money for food. He is also having terrible problems with constant toothache and used his savings to go to the dentist. But too much work to be done on them (2 root canals) so has to wait til he gets back home. Also what I meant when I said I worked for an Australian company was that two of my colleagues where over there and met up with him and they agreed with the heat and the rest. Obviously someone who lives there would know exactly what its like...

At the end of the day he went to Australia with limited knowledge of life but to my joy has learned of mild hardship eg how to live on very little money and how to worry about paying next weeks rent. All good in my view !

Again thanks for all the help I got on boards.....

reeta

Thargor wrote: »

Whats a labourer earning in Sydney these days if you dont mind me asking?

He is earning 25.00 dollars an hour..

reeta

Cheensbo wrote: »

Which crowd did he end up with?? If you don't mind my asking

He ended up with http://www.conrec.com.au/ . He is getting around 4 days work a week, but he says other agencies are coming back to him now.

Grab All Association

reeta wrote: »

I work for an Australian company

Harvey Norman?

Gringo180

reeta wrote: »

He is earning 25.00 dollars an hour..

Thats around 16 euro an hour. Think ill head to Australia myself :pac:

catbear

Gringo180 wrote: »

Thats around 16 euro an hour. Think ill head to Australia myself :pac:

A pint in Australia cost around €7, don't get me started on rent!!!!

(yes I know you can get cheaper pints on special but they're usually some sh*te like charlton that's intentionally super chilled so your tastebuds are numbed to how like piss it really is)

Cheensbo

reeta wrote: »

He ended up with http://www.conrec.com.au/ . He is getting around 4 days work a week, but he says other agencies are coming back to him now.

Mark & Nathan (Owners of conrec) are top boys, they look after their lads, if your son is a good worker they will give him the best work on the best sites. I was able to get 60hrs + a week with them working for some really good contractors.

reeta

Chris___ wrote: »

Harvey Norman?

How did you guess

Mellor

catbear wrote: »

A pint in Australia cost around €7, don't get me started on rent!!!!

(yes I know you can get cheaper pints on special but they're usually some sh*te like charlton that's intentionally super chilled so your tastebuds are numbed to how like piss it really is)

Where do you live?
$10/11 a pint is well above what I'd consider normal price

mandrake04

Mellor wrote: »

Where do you live?
$10/11 a pint is well above what I'd consider normal price

You would probably consider a Pint in PJs O'briens in Sydney CBD is $8-$8.50 which is about €5.50 as normal.

Maybe Catbear is just being..... eh Catbear.

jank

There are plenty of places around me that will do pints of good beer for $8. Spaten is lovely stuff.
Decent Guinness can be had for $6-7.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Wow - it's funny to see the same posters just being nasty in pretty much every thread they post in.

I'm glad your son found work though!

Thargor

Can you just head to Sydney and sign up with one of those agencies if you've never worked on a site and have no construction qualifications or do they only want experienced people?

catbear

Mellor wrote: »

Where do you live?
$10/11 a pint is well above what I'd consider normal price

Perth prices. The worst I heard of was $16.

dixiefly

reeta wrote: »

Thanks for the replies and contacts. He rang the names given by a couple of people here and I am glad to say he working away doing labouring work at the moment. As he said "you cant beat mixing cement in 40 degree heat":D But
at least all his bills are paid and I can stop transferring money into this account !! Again many thanks for the contacts

Great to see some good networking through boards.ie put to good effect. People are always willing to help, this just creates a mechanism for them to do so.

dixiefly

Chris___ wrote: »

Harvey Norman?

what has that got to do with anything? She doesn't need to say what the company is.

thierry14

dixiefly wrote: »

Great to see some good networking through boards.ie put to good effect. People are always willing to help, this just creates a mechanism for them to do so.

Agree, well done to everyone involved in getting the lad some work.

Boards is an amazing site at times

keysersoze0330

Well done Reeta

Arbiter of Good Taste

reeta wrote: »

You have taken that out of context, I meant you have no idea the affect this has had on me, yes possibly an over protective mother (actually no doubt) but I know there were days when he had no money for food. He is also having terrible problems with constant toothache and used his savings to go to the dentist. But too much work to be done on them (2 root canals) so has to wait til he gets back home. Also what I meant when I said I worked for an Australian company was that two of my colleagues where over there and met up with him and they agreed with the heat and the rest. Obviously someone who lives there would know exactly what its like...

At the end of the day he went to Australia with limited knowledge of life but to my joy has learned of mild hardship eg how to live on very little money and how to worry about paying next weeks rent. All good in my view !

Again thanks for all the help I got on boards.....

I understand your concern, but, seriously, the hardship will do him the world of good.

Years and years ago when I was in uni, 8 of us went over to Boston to work for the summer. I had worked the previous summer on the Jersey Shore and made a fortune waitressing, so thought it would be the same again. We did absolutely no research, and found it really hard. Didn't get work for week and when we did pay wasn't the best. Eight of us spent in sleeping bags in a two room apartment which had mice (or at least we chose to believe they were mice....).

As a result we had to be very careful with money, nights out were rare and really appreciated.

Made me remember the value of money and swear to bust my a$$ in uni and in work so that I would not spend the rest of my life struggling for money.

dixiefly

Arbiter of Good Taste wrote: »

I understand your concern, but, seriously, the hardship will do him the world of good.

Years and years ago when I was in uni, 8 of us went over to Boston to work for the summer. I had worked the previous summer on the Jersey Shore and made a fortune waitressing, so thought it would be the same again. We did absolutely no research, and found it really hard. Didn't get work for week and when we did pay wasn't the best. Eight of us spent in sleeping bags in a two room apartment which had mice (or at least we chose to believe they were mice....).

As a result we had to be very careful with money, nights out were rare and really appreciated.

Made me remember the value of money and swear to bust my a$$ in uni and in work so that I would not spend the rest of my life struggling for money.

Yes, I agree. Had a similar enough experience in NYC (though I didn't exactly transfer that towards dilligence at college).

Some of those lessons are ones that literally have to be lived to get the message.