Off Season Schedule?

PerrinV2

Thoughts on the off season schedule?,here's Heli's timescale from last year.

Re-signings will be Wednesday 4pm to Thursday @ 10 pm

FA Stage 1 will be Thursday 10pm - Saturday 10pm

FA Stage 2 will be Saturday 10pm - Sunday @ 6pm (very little normally happens in this stage imo)

FA Stage 3 will be Sunday 6pm - Monday 8:30pm

Draft will be Monday April 21st @ 9pm

I changed the wednesday part to 4pm as I can advance it then.
With regards to the draft,I could throw up a poll with options for days/time or just make a thread for ppl to pick what day/time is most suitable,go with the majority.
Thoughts on the about timescale? Anything needed to be increased/decreased?

adrian522

I think re-signings should be fine, 24 hours or thereabouts e.g from Friday 6pm to Saturday evening.
Saturday evening-Monday evening could be Stage 1.
Satge 2 could be Monday 10pm to Tuesday 10pm
Tuesday-Wednesday could be stage 3.

Draft then could be Wednesday Thursday or Friday night.

Then maybe allow 1 day per Preseaon gameweek.

Yeah, maybe throw up a poll for the Draft. Doddle poll maybe,

Wed 8:00, 8:30, 9:00, 9:30, 10:00
Thu 8:00, 8:30, 9:00, 9:30, 10:00
Fri 8:00, 8:30, 9:00, 9:30, 10:00

Hopefully we can get a time that suits most people.

adrian522

Did we want to implement the Free Agency rules? 4 Years Max and only 20% of total can be bonus.

Risk is that with so many CPU team all the FA's go to CPU teams.

helimachoptor

adrian522 wrote: »

Did we want to implement the Free Agency rules? 4 Years Max and only 20% of total can be bonus.

Risk is that with so many CPU team all the FA's go to CPU teams.

i think this should change to


Max 6 year deal with bonus making up 50%
the pro/pro 7 are gonig that way i think, too hard to compete with the CPU on the previous rules.

helimachoptor

On timings i would propose the below.

Re-signings from today - 10pm tomorrow
Stage 1 FA tomorrow 10pm to sunday 10pm
Stage 2 FA Sunday 10pm - Monday 10pm (very little happens here)
Stage 3 FA Monday 10pm - Tuesday 6pm

Advance to next stage still allows scouting
Draft Wednesday @ 9

However you guys are in charge so up to you

PerrinV2

Before I advance does a reminder have to be posted regarding the contract rules on resigning your own players?

adrian522

I thought people could do what they wanted for re-signing their own players?

helimachoptor

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Before I advance does a reminder have to be posted regarding the contract rules on resigning your own players?

i would say so..

cant remember what they are but i think they were also 6 years and 50% but sense needs to prevail, you cant be giving brady/manning a 6 year deal for example

PerrinV2

adrian522 wrote: »

I thought people could do what they wanted for re-signing their own players?

Ya as Heli said I think we usually went with max 6 years,50% bonus.
Same over on pfl.

helimachoptor wrote: »

i would say so..

cant remember what they are but i think they were also 6 years and 50% but sense needs to prevail, you cant be giving brady/manning a 6 year deal for example

Ya that was the number.
On Brady/Manning thing,are you thinking of a rule for contract length on players over a certain age?

adrian522

Fair enough, People will just screw their cap if they give an old player a long term contract.

helimachoptor

adrian522 wrote: »

Fair enough, People will just screw their cap if they give an old player a long term contract.

when they retire there arent any financial penalties, the cap gets released back to the team

so to get brady to re-sign you can give him 80 million over 4 years, first year is probably only a 10 million hit, then he retires and you can get the cap back

adrian522

OK, fair enough,

PerrinV2

So we I might create an off-season thread now,it can't be edited later with the timings.
Put the resiging your own players rules at the top but does something need to be added regarding older players and contracts?

helimachoptor

PerrinV2 wrote: »

So we I might create an off-season thread now,it can't be edited later with the timings.
Put the resiging your own players rules at the top but does something need to be added regarding older players and contracts?

just say for guys to be reasonable to length of deals for older guys

PerrinV2

helimachoptor wrote: »

i think this should change to


Max 6 year deal with bonus making up 50%
the pro/pro 7 are gonig that way i think, too hard to compete with the CPU on the previous rules.

I think the ukml and express are 50% and 4 years but there's obviously alot more players in those leagues.
Although I'm still hesistent on 6 years on this season of Free agency just because like when you resign your own players,ppl nearly always give 6 years as they never see the expensive part of the contract due to the lenght of the franchise.

Although if competition is high then probably not important.

PerrinV2

helimachoptor wrote: »

On timings i would propose the below.

Re-signings from today - 10pm tomorrow
Stage 1 FA tomorrow 10pm to sunday 10pm
Stage 2 FA Sunday 10pm - Monday 10pm (very little happens here)
Stage 3 FA Monday 10pm - Tuesday 6pm

Advance to next stage still allows scouting
Draft Wednesday @ 9

However you guys are in charge so up to you

If there's no disagreement I'll edit the off season thread with this schedule and make a thread/poll for a draft day/time,so wed 8,9,10,thurs,8,9,10,fri,8,9,10

Also are you both in favour for the Free agent rules to be the same as resignings
50% and 6 year contract

adrian522

PerrinV2 wrote: »

If there's no disagreement I'll edit the off season thread with this schedule and make a thread/poll for a draft day/time,so wed 8,9,10,thurs,8,9,10,fri,8,9,10

Also are you both in favour for the Free agent rules to be the same as resignings
50% and 6 year contract

That all sounds fine to me!

helimachoptor

yeha sounds good perrin.

You wont please everyone with the draft time, but majority should win

PerrinV2

Just checking ppl's contracts atm but someone will need to check my,signed DT Cofield,TE Lyerla,RE Bailey,don't think I got anyone else.

Some other points.
On the trading players just signed(something I almost done myself once :pac:),I could see the potential trouble that could bring(someone with cap could just sign players as trading pieces),dunno if there's a rule on it but some thing like
"A player must stay a minimum of 1 season on the roster unless released"
or something along those lines.

Also maybe a reminder not to trade with the cpu during the draft maybe?,ppl could trade future draft picks for drafts we won't be doing.

Checking the transactions I seen a trade with the cpu not mentioned on the forum,the trade was fine just that it wasn't mentioned on the forum.

Also for FA post draft
I'd be in favour of doing like the pfl and a FA draft so for the 1st 2 rounds people pick 1 player up per round according to th order in the draft(so in that case the Titans would get the first pick of the Free agent players),as opposed to first come first served straight after the draft.
Also in the case of 2 picks(like myself) it would be the pick based on where you finished in the league,so you don't get 2 guys.

adrian522

sounds good, as long a the CPU doesn't hover up all the FA's as we are organizing the draft!

helimachoptor

Don't think it does post draft Adrian. Agree with what you say on trading FAs.

Snake draft prob works best Perrin. I pick first in the first round then last

PerrinV2

adrian522 wrote: »

sounds good, as long a the CPU doesn't hover up all the FA's as we are organizing the draft!

Don't think they do post draft,they might after the 1st advance to meet roster conditions but we should have a round done by then.

helimachoptor wrote: »

Don't think it does post draft Adrian. Agree with what you say on trading FAs.

Snake draft prob works best Perrin. I pick first in the first round then last

Only issue with snake draft in our league though with so few players not a huge disadvantage to picking last,so there might be still a good selection once rd2 comes around.

helimachoptor

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Don't think they do post draft,they might after the 1st advance to meet roster conditions but we should have a round done by then.

Only issue with snake draft in our league though with so few players not a huge disadvantage to picking last,so there might be still a good selection once rd2 comes around.

you and adrian are in charge.. your pick :pac:

adrian522

Snake draft for me, after 10 Free agents are gone it won't make that much difference.

Also not sure of the ethics of picking up a team with the second overall pick without having played with them all season, maybe forfeit your draft pick? (Just kidding on that last point!)

helimachoptor

You'll be banned from the AF forum with that suggestion!

adrian522

I think I'm headed for a ban over there anyway!

helimachoptor

Probably worth sticking up a reminder thread about the post draft fA

PerrinV2

Just a heads up but I set injury to off for pre season and also fill roster to off.
Fill roster off cause if ppl go to play a pre season and don't have the min number of players for a position i.e QB or kicker,they cpu will sign a player for the preseason game which would mess up the FA draft order.

Or could leave it on and tell ppl to release the player after

helimachoptor

Leave it off I think, in bed so will sign my guy in the morning

PerrinV2

1 day per pre-season game good? so Fri,Sat,Sun,Mon.
Week 1 fixtures Tuesday? or Monday night to keep with the season 1 days?

adrian522

Yeah, that's fine. We can advance Monday night/Tuesday morning and week 1 will be Tuesday-Thursday(1 lees day than normal) then the normal Friday-Tuesday, Wednesday - Sunday, Monday-Thursday etc.

PerrinV2

Yay or Nay to Shmarky's request
"Request to try and trade RE Fletcher Cox 82 to the Ravens for MLB CJ Mosley 85"

I presume the cpu will reject anyway due to salary,age and overall rating of the 2 players

adrian522

Yeah, Sounds fine.

what about this 53 man roster? how are people to get to 53 before regular season? Will it be a free for all after the 2nd round of the snake draft?

PerrinV2

adrian522 wrote: »

Yeah, Sounds fine.

what about this 53 man roster? how are people to get to 53 before regular season? Will it be a free for all after the 2nd round of the snake draft?

Sounds fine as in let in try the trade or reject it.

It should be free for all after 2nd round of snake draft,we should have put a time limit on the draft as its gone on too long,ppl waiting their turn could have pm'd a list of a few players they wanted and things would have moved quicker.

helimachoptor

if we arent finished by 6pm, i would just tell people to fill their rosters tbh

adrian522

Yeah agree, this needs to get done today. There's not that much left in FA at this stage anyway.

PerrinV2

Eagles looking to trade LOLB Barwin 83 for Chargers CB Verett 80,I presume they're ok to try it.

adrian522

Yeah, that's fine. Petty much any trade with like for like OVR should be fine, as long as it's not an undervalued position like 90 OVER K for 90 OVR QB or something.

PerrinV2

I presume its fine to advance the gameweek once all human games have been played and following gameweek fixtures are up.
Fixture schedule remains the same.

helimachoptor

Yep

PerrinV2

Packers request to extend gameweek 17 by a day,any issue's with that?

helimachoptor

Nope

PerrinV2

Any thoughts on Season 2 schedule?
Fa dates could edited depending on outcome of poll I created.
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Dates to be edited when superbowl is played and draft day decided.

Re-signings:
Stage 1 FA:
Stage 2 FA:
Stage 3 FA:

Remember when resigning your own players.

Resigning current players:
Maximum contract length of 6 years
Regardless of the length of contract, bonus to be capped at 50% of the total deal.

Also be reasonable with the length of a deal for older guys.
(By older someone who could potientally retire this season or next)

FA Rules
Maximum contract length of 6 years
Regardless of the length of contract, bonus to be capped at 50% of the total deal.

So the exact same as the resigning rule

Link to Draft Day Poll
http://doodle.com/crrtn3k9btk7duqd

Multiple options there so just fill in your name and what times best suit you.

Draft set for
Will set up a draft chat room on the day,could be handy for those wanting to make deals.
No trading with CPU during draft.(as future draft picks might be involved)

Post Draft FA will be Snake Draft.
Will run as the same order as the draft for round 1 then reversed.
A thread will be made to post picks.
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helimachoptor

Re signings done by Monday nigjt, draft say Sunday night or thursday even, nothing happens in FA2

helimachoptor

Id suggest not allowing CPU trading until the pre-season at least

PerrinV2

helimachoptor wrote: »

Id suggest not allowing CPU trading until the pre-season at least

Cause people could mess up their cap is it?

helimachoptor

no. Just trading during FA is a bit odd imo, you need a player? Well go bid on him or target in the draft

PerrinV2

helimachoptor wrote: »

no. Just trading during FA is a bit odd imo, you need a player? Well go bid on him or target in the draft

Oh ya,makes sense
You have it in the first page cpu trading thread anyway,I'll just requote that.

PerrinV2

Dunno if this will be issue with the upcoming but only Adrian was able to forward past the cpu picks in the last draft.

helimachoptor

If he's ledt the league you should be able to do it

PerrinV2

helimachoptor wrote: »

If he's ledt the league you should be able to do it

I believe he's still there,just on unlimited auto.