Is Clonee in Dublin 15 a good/bad area

Jeremyr

Hi Folks


Have a work colleague here not from Dublin but looking to buy a 3bed semi in Clonee Dublin 15 for around 300k


They're hearing mixed reviews about the area, i'm from Dublin myself but nowhere near that neck of the woods so i'm not one to comment so decided to ask a few people on here to try set this person in the right direction


Is it a good or bad area? Pros and cons would be great etc


Cheers people

handlemaster

check sound insulation.

RasTa

Clonee is in Meath and not D15

La_Gordy

What are your definitions of good and bad? What amenities are you looking for?

gabsdot40

It'a a big area. Be more specific. Maybe post on the dublin 15 board

Jeremyr

Bramblefield he's looking at


3 bed semi for over 300k seems a bit pricey to me, surely that can't be the average for that area?

Mr.McLovin

Jeremyr wrote: »

Bramblefield he's looking at


3 bed semi for over 300k seems a bit pricey to me, surely that can't be the average for that area?

at least 50k over priced and you'd want walk in condition for that to boot imo!

check ppr

Jeremyr

Mr.McLovin wrote: »

at least 50k over priced and you'd want walk in condition for that to boot imo!

check ppr

Will do Thanks for the reply

Is there any concerns with the area? I'm hearing alot of social issues,social housing etc

Also seems to be a bit out of the way but he's been told that estate links into Hunstown/Hartsown are again i'm not familiar with the whole area so that's why im looking for advice


Thanks buddy

handlemaster

would your friend not look in hartstown,huntstown, blakestown, whitestown clonsilla basically towards the shopping centre. the build quality would be better ,more establised areas and walking distance to schools , shopping centre etc

Mr.McLovin

Jeremyr wrote: »

Will do Thanks for the reply

Is there any concerns with the area? I'm hearing alot of social issues,social housing etc

Also seems to be a bit out of the way but he's been told that estate links into Hunstown/Hartsown are again i'm not familiar with the whole area so that's why im looking for advice


Thanks buddy

I wouldn't be concerned too much about social issues.

Huntstown is walkable in just a couple of minutes but that turns into a 15 minute drive if you want to take the car!

Not much social housing near that particular estate but what you do have particularly in Huntstown/Hartstown and Ongar is a lot of rent allowance/rented houses.

As for being out of the way, well if you do most of your socialising in Dublin city centre for example, its out of the way but it really depends what you are comparing it to.

Mr.McLovin

handlemaster wrote: »

would your friend not look in hartstown,huntstown, blakestown, whitestown clonsilla basically towards the shopping centre. the build quality would be better ,more establised areas and walking distance to schools , shopping centre etc

if he has concerns about social issues I wouldn't be recommending whitestown!

if he has 300k to play with go look near Clonsilla village or Carpenterstown

The_Captain

Clonee is fine, not particularly rough.

There's a lot of foreigners living there, other than that, it's fairly unremarkable

MrMorooka

I wouldn't really call it Clonee, it's closer to Littlepace/Huntstown.

While we're on the topic, anyone have any opinions of the Archer's Wood development just next to Bramblefield? Look like lovely apartments and in a pretty good location for buses, but is there a catch?

Mr.McLovin

MrMorooka wrote: »

I wouldn't really call it Clonee, it's closer to Littlepace/Huntstown.

While we're on the topic, anyone have any opinions of the Archer's Wood development just next to Bramblefield? Look like lovely apartments and in a pretty good location for buses, but is there a catch?

Had a friend there renting for awhile, cheap rent at the time and he never complained although he was the type to be complained about the truth be told!

its the sort of place you wouldn't even know is there, sort of hidden away

*actually the apartments I'm thinking of beside that estate whitely hall or something or other

gaius c

MrMorooka wrote: »

I wouldn't really call it Clonee, it's closer to Littlepace/Huntstown.

While we're on the topic, anyone have any opinions of the Archer's Wood development just next to Bramblefield? Look like lovely apartments and in a pretty good location for buses, but is there a catch?

Littlepace is fine.

Huntstown and Hartstown are not fine. I got mugged there one evening by three scobes, one of whom was this chappie.

handlemaster

Mr.McLovin wrote: »

if he has concerns about social issues I wouldn't be recommending whitestown!

if he has 300k to play with go look near Clonsilla village or Carpenterstown

true going back a good few years now . its different there now . 300k is a good budget for d15. he will have lots of choice

handlemaster

gaius c wrote: »

Littlepace is fine.

Huntstown and Hartstown are not fine. I got mugged there one evening by three scobes, one of whom was this chappie.

i got robbed once also that was in ranelagh, id never classify an area on one experience.. I’ve never had trouble in d15 and i have lived there for years

monica555

I lived in Clonee (Castaheany) and Carpenterstown (Luttrellstown)
I would avoid Bramblefield. It's too close to Huntstown.
Tell your friends to drive there on few occasions for example on warm Friday or Saturday evening and also during the day. Large groups of bored teenagers drinking alcohol etc, young kids without parents, rusted bikes on greens, high popularity of Nissan Micra/Toyota Yaris type of cars are not the best signs...
For 300k I would definitively recommend Carpenterstown (Luttrellstown or Riverwood) - more people seems to be in full time employment, less antisocial behavior, train station, good schools, lots of after school activities, 5 mins drive to Blanchardstown sc, closer to Phoenix Park

OldMrBrennan83

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MrMorooka

Oh, are there issues with the construction of Whatley? That's the place I was thinking of.

OldMrBrennan83

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handlemaster

monica555 wrote: »

I lived in Clonee (Castaheany) and Carpenterstown (Luttrellstown)
I would avoid Bramblefield. It's too close to Huntstown.
Tell your friends to drive there on few occasions for example on warm Friday or Saturday evening and also during the day. Large groups of bored teenagers drinking alcohol etc, young kids without parents, rusted bikes on greens, high popularity of Nissan Micra/Toyota Yaris type of cars are not the best signs...
For 300k I would definitively recommend Carpenterstown (Luttrellstown or Riverwood) - more people seems to be in full time employment, less antisocial behavior, train station, good schools, lots of after school activities, 5 mins drive to Blanchardstown sc, closer to Phoenix Park

All you get in carpenterstown under 300k is this
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/dublin-15/property-for-sale-in-carpenterstown?maxprice=300000

monica555

handlemaster wrote: »

All you get in carpenterstown under 300k is this in-carpenterstown?

It's only because you have to sellect Castleknock not Carpenterstown.
It's Carpenterstown area but the post code Castleknock. So when people place their advert they select Castleknock. Probably they think it will attract more potential buyers.

beauf

IMO That's Diswellstown not Carpenterstown. The post code is D15.

Not that it makes any difference except for school catchments.

handlemaster

monica555 wrote: »

It's only because you have to sellect Castleknock not Carpenterstown.
It's Carpenterstown area but the post code Castleknock. So when people place their advert they select Castleknock. Probably they think it will attract more potential buyers.

Properties under castleknock are just that

beauf

beauf wrote: »

IMO That's Diswellstown not Carpenterstown. The post code is D15.

Not that it makes any difference except for school catchments.

Actually looking at the OSI townland map I'm wrong. Its actually the Townland of Annfield. Those townland boundaries pre-date lots of things like roads, canals. So the boundaries we see today may not line up as you expect.

Jeremyr

Me and my colleague took a spin up to Bramblefield yesterday afternoon and last night

He is far from impressed and i can't argue with him , 300k for a house there seems like sheer insanity


He was very concerned that you can barely spot an Irish person/Irish child , he himself is German but is fluent in multiple languages and has always paid his way, his wife is Irish and she has been advised that Clonee is home to alot of foreign nationals on welfare??

He doesn't want to raise a family in that environment and i can't blame him to be honest but before he jumps a gun at first impressions could any of you who are familiar with the area shed some light on this??


Thanks guys

MayBea

I can't comment on Clonee, as I'm not familiar with the area. But an acquaintance of mine has recently acquired a house in Waterville in Blanchardstown and is very happy with the area, the quality of build and their neighbours are all working families with kids.
I believe there are going to be more houses build in this estate in 2015.

Mr.McLovin

handlemaster wrote: »

All you get in carpenterstown under 300k is this
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/dublin-15/property-for-sale-in-carpenterstown?maxprice=300000

you're not very good at the aul searches pal

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/50-sycamore-avenue-castleknock-dublin-15/3070673

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/5-fernleigh-grove-castleknock-dublin-15/3070139

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/30-woodbrook-park-castleknock-dublin-15/3029415

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/36-fernleigh-grove-castleknock-dublin-15/3051631

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/fernleigh-dale-castleknock-dublin-15/3034630

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/8-woodbrook-square-castleknock-dublin-15/2942941

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/48-woodbrook-court-castleknock-dublin-15/2785206

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/8-fernleigh-dale-castleknock-dublin-15/2960121

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/37-college-gate-castleknock-dublin-15/2832391

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/14-woodbrook-square-riverwood-road-castleknock-dublin-15/2900410

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/44-college-gate-castleknock-dublin-15/2751836

all 3 beds all under 300k or under in Carpenterstown (Castleknock) not including 3 bed apts, healthy competition so room for some negotiations if you ask me

better spent than 300k in this area than Clonee imo!

Clonsilla Village also a good shout for that price range

MarkAnthony

+1 on what most are saying here OP. Area is fine really but what ever it is just seems very expensive.

The only problem with D15 (lived there for a few years, brother in law has lived there for 10+ years) is it's really a town in of itself. If this was the UK it would be a market town to a city.

It has good transport links but they're all a bit of a pain in the arse. Bus goes via Saturn, late night links are spotty.

If it's close to work and you're happy with what's out there happy days. The only thing I would say is what if you change jobs? Do you like the city centre night life?

handlemaster

Mr.McLovin wrote: »

you're not very good at the aul searches pal

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/50-sycamore-avenue-castleknock-dublin-15/3070673

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/5-fernleigh-grove-castleknock-dublin-15/3070139

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/30-woodbrook-park-castleknock-dublin-15/3029415

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/36-fernleigh-grove-castleknock-dublin-15/3051631

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/fernleigh-dale-castleknock-dublin-15/3034630

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/8-woodbrook-square-castleknock-dublin-15/2942941

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/48-woodbrook-court-castleknock-dublin-15/2785206

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/8-fernleigh-dale-castleknock-dublin-15/2960121

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/37-college-gate-castleknock-dublin-15/2832391

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/14-woodbrook-square-riverwood-road-castleknock-dublin-15/2900410

http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochure/44-college-gate-castleknock-dublin-15/2751836

all 3 beds all under 300k or under in Carpenterstown (Castleknock) not including 3 bed apts, healthy competition so room for some negotiations if you ask me

better spent than 300k in this area than Clonee imo!

Clonsilla Village also a good shout for that price range

Thanks Pal

carpenterstown is not castleknock.
blanchardstown is not clonsilla and so forth. Its quiet simple just put in carpenterstown in the search tool see what you get..

Mr.McLovin

handlemaster wrote: »

Thanks Pal

carpenterstown is not castleknock.
blanchardstown is not clonsilla and so forth. Its quiet simple just put in carpenterstown in the search tool see what you get..

of course Carpenterstown is not Castleknock, I never claimed it to be otherwise.

anything over 'that' side of the M50 is not Castleknock despite EA's and deluded people claiming otherwise!

I don't think Blanchardstown is mentioned in the thread either just better alternatives being put forward than Clonee and Whitestown (ffs!) in Dublin 15

The_Conductor

OP- I grew up in the area- its only in modern times that people call Clonee Dublin 15- its always been Co. Meath and proud of it. Clonee on a match day was a great place to be.......

Nowadays its actually quite a nice little village- complete with both an Aldi and a Lidl, good schools and a nice creche has recently opened.

Clonee was one of the places with estates and high density apartments- which were abandoned when the bubble burst. A lot of the properties on-sale in the area are remnants of previous developments that are finally being completed. Not that this is an issue- it means that a lot of the people buying now- are likely to be owner-occupiers, whereas a lot of the people living in the first phases of the developments, probably are renting.

I'm not aware that it has any social issues to speak of- but I have to say it doesn't have a lot of facilities and amenities for kids (though you have Blach in one direction and Dunshaughlin in the other- with lots in those locations).

I wouldn't have any particular issues with the area- however, the 300k price tag does sound wildly optimistic- and unjustified, in my opinion.

I wish your friend the best with their search.

handlemaster

Just to touch on what ' The conductor ' has said the fact a place like Clonee was allowed to expand and not have the proper facilities in place is crazy. But it will continue to happen. Sad for everyone really that. Kids will have no where to play and the adults not where to get away from them

The_Conductor

Whats happening in practise- is kids are getting the bus up to the Blanchardstown shopping centre and hanging around the centre with their mates- which really isn't ideal (either for the kids- or anyone else).

handlemaster

The_Conductor wrote: »

Whats happening in practise- is kids are getting the bus up to the Blanchardstown shopping centre and hanging around the centre with their mates- which really isn't ideal (either for the kids- or anyone else).

maybe their going to study in the lovely library :pac:

OldMrBrennan83

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moxin

The Clonee D15 is just full of housing estates, very far out and very isolated. Only consolation is actually Clonee village, a bit of life as in regular shops. Myself would never live in an isolated estate again as I grew up in one and its a big no no as it is soul destroying especially for an adult. One rule I have is never buy a house beside work, buy one where you can see yourself living there for many years as you can change job down the line and you won't be stuck there for a horrible commute.

Watch out for flooding, I believe the area around Littlepace was flooded a few years ago, is Bramblefield prone as its newish?

Be aware of this thread
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056479220&page=162

The area between Bramblefield and Hunstown was always troublesome.
I remember a girl calling to my door once after having been mugged there,having the seen the light on my house.
I lived in Bramblefield for 8 years, and thank God everyday I sold up.

rawn

gaius c wrote: »

Littlepace is fine.

Huntstown and Hartstown are not fine. I got mugged there one evening by three scobes, one of whom was this chappie.

I'm from whitestown, i went to primary school with that scobe. I know at least 3 other murderers from my school. Avoid whitestown/sheepmore/ladyswell/fortlawn/whitechapel/briarwood. Clonee is fine, as is Ongar, and pretty much anywhere else on the opposite side of the train tracks.

Moonbeam

Dunboyne is right beside Clonee and if you don't want to have all amenities within walking distance it is definitely worth a look.
I would prefer it to Clonee because it has the lovely village atmosphere,and excellent schools.
I am originally from Hartstown,I am gone along time but still have family there and most of it is fine.

handlemaster

rawn wrote: »

I'm from whitestown, i went to primary school with that scobe. I know at least 3 other murderers from my school. Avoid whitestown/sheepmore/ladyswell/fortlawn/whitechapel/briarwood. Clonee is fine, as is Ongar, and pretty much anywhere else on the opposite side of the train tracks.

In the interest of fairness and balance add castleknock to that list. The last murder in Dublin 15 was there. Also blanchardstown, robberies have happened there before and coolmine...because its close by

gaius c

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Be aware of this thread
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056479220&page=162

The area between Bramblefield and Hunstown was always troublesome.
I remember a girl calling to my door once after having been mugged there,having the seen the light on my house.
I lived in Bramblefield for 8 years, and thank God everyday I sold up.

Yeah, that's where I got done too.
As pointed out, it's a long way from Clonee village but a lot of people refer to the Littlepace estates as "Clonee" so it's still relevant information and useful to know.

MrMorooka

Well, no wonder rent is so cheap in Archers Wood then- to get to bus stops and shops from it you need to walk through a mugging hotspot?

Victor

beauf wrote: »

Pretty the whole of Dublin is a no go area...

Then there's that whole war between the north and south. Why would anyone move to this country at all.

Disruptive posting not welcome. On topic please.

Moderator

Jeremyr

Wow i just read some of the posts on the Bramblefield residents group on facebook

I'll advise my friend of it, robberies and assaults seem to be a daily occurrence

Shocking stuff

The_Conductor

In all fairness- Bramblefield isn't exactly Clonee..........

Jeremyr

The_Conductor wrote: »

In all fairness- Bramblefield isn't exactly Clonee..........

what or where is it then?

The_Conductor

Jeremyr wrote: »

what or where is it then?

Its across the road from Mulhuddart- and on its side of the road- its closest village, by far- is Ongar........ Its one of those estates built in the middle of everything- with no facilities/amenities of its own. A Clonee, Dublin 15 address (which is interesting- as Clonee was never in Dublin 15)- was easier for the developers to sell to prospective purchasers. Traditionally the area was well known for a local dairy farm- and the fact that it grew malting barley, which was rumoured to be one of Guinness' sources.

The whole area- is akin to Tallaght in the late 70s- Clonee itself was a massive GAA supporters haunt- where the Dublin, Kildare and Meath supporters viewed it as a sort of neutral zone. It was also famous for its Saturday night discos. Even back in the day Kepak was the major employer- it was a massive boost for the area when it opened in 1980 (it was a branch of the family who were famous for an old Dublin butchers in the Liberties).

Clonee was given a shot in the arm when Kepak opened- few of the employees lived in the village- Kilcock and Lucan supplied the lion's share of employees.

The monstrosity of overdevelopment- which merged Clonee, Ongar (which itself was a new construct), Blanchardstown, Mulhuddart and several other places- was symptomatic of the crazy Irish planning system- and was used as a project by the EU- to bring bureaucrats from the former Eastern Bloc here and show them what could happen if rampant overdevelopment was not kept in check. The Irish government complained a few times- but it was irrefutable- it was a mess- and its only gotten worse.

Clonee itself- including its new developments in the village- are fine. Bramblefield etc- I'd avoid.

MrMorooka

Viewing an apartment tomorrow in Archers Wood, next to Bramblefield. In light of recent posts, and looking at the facebook group, think I might give it a miss.

Jeremyr

MrMorooka wrote: »

Viewing an apartment tomorrow in Archers Wood, next to Bramblefield. In light of recent posts, and looking at the facebook group, think I might give it a miss.

Wise move