30W LED GU10 for EUR 2: eurogeneral

suave.4u

Was searching for some cheap LED lights.
Bought one for EUR 9 from Woodies (50W) couple of days back.

Went to Eurogeneral at Liver park and they are selling GU 10 (30W) for EUR 2.
Looks like a good deal; haven't seen them anywhere cheaper.
rating: "A" as well.

exaisle

i doubt they're leds

moodrater

Think I saw them a couple of weeks ago in eurosavers something like 24-30 discrete throughole leds probably well under 200 lumens and a capacitive dropper circuit. Buy cheap, buy twice or in the case of led lamps 3//5/6/7/8/9... times.

suave.4u

exaisle wrote: »

i doubt they're leds

They are LEDs..A rating

suave.4u

moodrater wrote: »

Think I saw them a couple of weeks ago in eurosavers something like 24-30 discrete throughole leds probably well under 200 lumens and a capacitive dropper circuit. Buy cheap, buy twice or in the case of led lamps 3//5/6/7/8/9... times.

I do not understand. Are you saying they are good or are they waste?

Captain Flaps

He's saying they're low powered and not made to last, so you'd be better spending a little more on decent ones.

cletus

suave.4u wrote: »

I do not understand. Are you saying they are good or are they waste?

He's saying they are a waste, poor light output, poor angle of light, cheap components. All leds are not created equal

L1011

They are either not LED or not 30w

They may be claiming to be equivalent to a 30w Halogen in which case they're almost certainly going to be a marked downgrade in light level (and quality) from whatever you're used to.

Webbs

If people are looking for LED lights and I know this isnt exactly a BA but I cant recommend this crowd in the UK enough regarding LED lights. In my view it is a BA when you get a really good product. Apologies if this is against charter or anything

https://well-lit.co.uk/

dodzy

Every time I see an L.E.D thread, I sigh at the fact I haven't swapped my GU10 halogens over yet. I'm still stupidly holding out for the Philips Master to hit a fiver a pop, then I'm gonna get 40 and be done with it.

That said, the halogens are so inefficient and emit so much heat, I don't need to use any radiators, when its cold, I just turn on all the lights

dubsuperstar

Id avoid buying bulbs from cheap stores. I bought some cheap bulbs to try out and one exploded/shattered all over the place last week.

moodrater

Took a look at these again today 30 led 1.8w they make no claims at all about light output, colour temperature, cri, angle, wattage equivalent. etc. Look like the cheap chinese ones from about 4 years ago.

KaaaaaaPOW

moodrater wrote: »

Took a look at these again today 30 led 1.8w they make no claims at all about light output, colour temperature, cri, angle, wattage equivalent. etc. Look like the cheap chinese ones from about 4 years ago.

What lights u recommend?

moodrater

KaaaaaaPOW wrote: »

What lights u recommend?

For gu10 I don't think you can beat the ikea family offer €4.50 for a dimmable 400lm bulb.

Online I think the non dimmable integral bulbs that won the which best buy last august are a fairly good bet too. 10 pack works out about €6 each delivered.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Integral-ILGU105-3N03KBENF-GU10-Spotlight-White/dp/B00MA7Y03O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424173000&sr=8-1&keywords=ILGU105.3N03KBDNF

http://www.bfmmagazine.co.uk/integral-led-spotlight-wins-which-best-buy/

Those have a 3 year warranty and integral are around a long time, my first pc had integral ram about 22 years ago.

Capt'n Midnight

They are 30 LED , 1.8W / 12V MR16

L1011

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

They are 30 LED , 1.8W / 12V MR16

Junk then

dubsuperstar

moodrater wrote: »

For gu10 I don't think you can beat the ikea family offer €4.50 for a dimmable 400lm bulb.

Are those IKEA bulbs still available for 4.50. They are 6.00 on the website and not showing as part of the IKEA family offer.

flyguy

dubsuperstar wrote: »

moodrater wrote: »

For gu10 I don't think you can beat the ikea family offer €4.50 for a dimmable 400lm bulb.

Are those IKEA bulbs still available for 4.50. They are 6.00 on the website and not showing as part of the IKEA family offer.

Still showing for me here:
http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/store/dublin/ikea_family
Replaced the 50w halogens in kitchen with these. For a led bulb they're very good; brighter than 50w they replaced and very nice (not blue) light. Cons would be the back of the bulb is white so if you can see them like in my light fittings it doesn't look as nice and as usual with led's the light is more directional (not as wide) and a bit less natural than a halogen bulb. However if you want led's I doubt you'll find any better at this price, especially dimmable ones.

CH3OH

I thought I'd stick this here rather than start a new thread..

Picked up a few of these in Homebase Ballymun this week

they were €2.05 each


They may be all gone as they were selling fast..

positron

I saw these TCP dimmable LED GU10 220lm, 5W - 35W output - but packs of two - in Hombase Drogheda with a price tag of 0.5 cents marked as 'clearance'. I grabbed three (six GU10 bulbs in total) and went to the cashier - she said they are 2.75 each. I mentioned how the label said "was 2.75, now 0.05". She gets someone to check who comes back saying they are 1.05 each. I said fine, I can live with that. She puts them thru and the total was ... €2.40!!

You couldn't make this up!! They just don't know what they are doing up there!!

I am not complaining, I got GU10's for 40c each. I was back there yesterday and someone has emptied the entire section. I should've bought more.

Invincible

Are they dimmable?

Special Circumstances

Invincible wrote: »

Are they dimmable?

The label in the picture does claim that they are.
Bottom left hand corner.

Reverse reverse... Apologies.. positrons bargain bulbs sound like a different model if they are 220 lumens rather than the 300+ in the picture.

dodzy

As previous poster mentioned, the ikea offering are excellent. Iswapped over all mine a few months back and they are great value. A fiver each. And dimmable.

http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/products/lighting/light-bulbs-accessories/ledare-led-bulb-gu10-400-lumen-dimmable-art-30304651/

fleet

Bought a bunch of expensive 4 and 5 watt Philips 240V GU10 LEDs a few years ago.
They are great, at least as bright as the no name 50W halogens.

Then went to IKEA a few weeks ago and picked up a 6W GU10 (not 100% sure of the power, their most powerful anyhow) to test.
It's amazing, beautiful warm but powerful light off it, even more light than the Philips, would suit anywhere but a kitchen counter (where a whiter light works best).

yannakis

Spending money on light bulbs for anything but reading lights isn't that wise I think..

I usually buy them from ebay, something like 10 for 7 pounds. 1-2 might be broken on arrival if not packed well and the seller will refund the equivalent. Found the email: last time I ordered 10 40W & 10 60W bulbs was in March 2013 and I still have 4 & 5 left respectively.

Probably, meanwhile, I've spent €2 more in electricity

corsav6

I picked up a 3 pack of Philips bayonet cap led bulbs in woodies for €15. They have screw cap too.
Instant light, unlike those stupid cfl energy bulbs, bright light too.
I'm not sure of the specs but I'm going buying a few more at the weekend. For €5 per bulb it's not bad value.

fleet

YanisK wrote: »

Spending money on light bulbs for anything but reading lights isn't that wise I think..

Depends on the person.

I for one would hate to spend any length of time in a place lit by a cheap CFL or LED. Harsh, flickering light that lends a depressing blue hue to everything. My mothers house reminds me of a petrol station at night...

Menas

fleet wrote: »

Depends on the person.

I for one would hate to spend any length of time in a place lit by a cheap CFL or LED. Harsh, flickering light that lends a depressing blue hue to everything. My mothers house reminds me of a petrol station at night...

Agreed, nothing worse that a badly, or cheaply lit home.
We converted every light in the house to LED earlier this year but got decent ones. Nice warm light and already a noticeable difference in the electric bills.

yannakis

fleet wrote: »

Depends on the person.

I for one would hate to spend any length of time in a place lit by a cheap CFL or LED. Harsh, flickering light that lends a depressing blue hue to everything. My mothers house reminds me of a petrol station at night...

Can someone really buy what you just described?

LordSutch

They have a bay full of LED bulbs in Lidl out on 'special' today, problem is (apart from the GU10s) they're all screw type LED bulbs, which is hopeless for most homes I guess? All our fittings are bayonet type . . . must pop up to Woodies to see what they have.

PS; LED bulbs should always be 2700 Kelvin in the home (warm), this means that they are nearly identical in warmth to your old bulbs/halogens. I have found that LEDs with a Kelvin value of 3000 & above are too intense, too hard on the eyes.

yannakis

LordSutch wrote: »

problem is (apart from the GU10s) they're all screw type LED bulbs, which is hopeless for most homes I guess?

You can always get the adaptors from IKEA

B22 to E27 http://bit.ly/1YUcftJ
B15 to E14 http://bit.ly/1YUciWl

CreepingDeath

YanisK wrote: »

You can always get the adaptors from IKEA

B22 to E27 http://bit.ly/1YUcftJ
B15 to E14 http://bit.ly/1YUciWl

+1

I replaced a load of the old style bayonet bulbs with Ikea LED bulbs and those B22 to E27 adapters.
The IKEA 400lm LED lights are bright enough to compare to an old style 100w bulb.

Bulbs were around €6 for a twin pack of 400lm, and a twin pack of converters were around €1.50. So under €5 per bulb.

We'll be getting a BER cert in a month or two, so it certainly won't hurt to convert to LED beforehand.

newacc2015

fleet wrote: »

Depends on the person.

I for one would hate to spend any length of time in a place lit by a cheap CFL or LED. Harsh, flickering light that lends a depressing blue hue to everything. My mothers house reminds me of a petrol station at night...

Go to a decent electrical wholesalers like Eurosales that literally have every single bulb that Phillips produce. I think Eurosales alone have 4/5 different shades of "white" LEDs. If you dont like the tone of "white", there is plenty of options if you are willing to spend slightly more

These ones are excellent and can match any tone of halogen bulbs you have

http://www.eurosales.ie/products/id-1745.html?filter_set%5B0%5D=1654&

L1011

The bayonet to edison adapters are a must if you're going to modern generation bulbs of any kind - bayonet fittings are used in so few countries all we get is dearer, previous generation tech usually.

Both connectors are crap but its marginally harder to shock yourself on an Edison, but yet far more likely to have an Edison fall out due to vibrations

crabbypaddy

LordSutch wrote: »

They have a bay full of LED bulbs in Lidl out on 'special' today, problem is (apart from the GU10s) they're all screw type LED bulbs, which is hopeless for most homes I guess? All our fittings are bayonet type . . . must pop up to Woodies to see what they have.

PS; LED bulbs should always be 2700 Kelvin in the home (warm), this means that they are nearly identical in warmth to your old bulbs/halogens. I have found that LEDs with a Kelvin value of 3000 & above are too intense, too hard on the eyes.

Have several failed es bulbs from lidl since October keep the receipt if you're getting them, pure ****e virtually no thermal design gone into them and a very basic flickery voltage dropper no better than Chinese stuff. Have a Philips one thats done about 50000 hours in the same fitting and is still going strong when I moved it to the shed.

colm_mcm

Dealz have bayonet ones, but they're very low equivalent wattage (20w equivalent)

fleet

colm_mcm wrote: »

Dealz have bayonet ones, but they're very low equivalent wattage (20w equivalent)

Dealz is great, I shop there regularly... for stuff like pens, dates, and chocolate brazil nuts....

... but an IKEA/Philips LED bulb costs €5-10 and lasts until at least 2026... don't deprive your eyes of some decent light for a decade for the sake of the price of a pint!

PeterDuggan

If anyone has 50w halogens they've replaced I'd be happy to collect. Thankyou.

colm_mcm

fleet wrote: »

Dealz is great, I shop there regularly... for stuff like pens, dates, and chocolate brazil nuts....

... but an IKEA/Philips LED bulb costs €5-10 and lasts until at least 2026... don't deprive your eyes of some decent light for a decade for the sake of the price of a pint!

I'm not suggesting anyone replace a 60w bulb with a 20w equivelant.

FWIW, I've put the screw-in ones from dealz into a few lamps in the house and they're grand.

The_Conductor

Is 300 lumens even bright enough to read by?
I bought a few of the original bulbs from post 1 - with the intention of putting them in bedside lights- however, while they're fine for getting up during the night to go to the loo or whatever- they're nowhere near sufficient for reading purposes..........

crabbypaddy

The_Conductor wrote: »

Is 300 lumens even bright enough to read by?
I bought a few of the original bulbs from post 1 - with the intention of putting them in bedside lights- however, while they're fine for getting up during the night to go to the loo or whatever- they're nowhere near sufficient for reading purposes..........

How long is a piece if string, 300lumens per square meter is recommended minimum for casual reading. So might be fine in a reading lamp. But in a 3m x 4m room you'd need 12 of those as ceiling lights to make up reading light levels. You shouldn't be relying on general lighting for reading.

positron

I have 4 of these Robus Gu10 3.5w 275lm bulbs in a 3m x 3m snug area (of a larger room, 18 in total in 5m x 7m room). It's easily bright enough to read, but yes a reading light would be nicer.

crabbypaddy

positron wrote: »

I have 4 of these Robus Gu10 3.5w 275lm bulbs in a 3m x 3m snug area (of a larger room, 18 in total in 5m x 7m room). It's easily bright enough to read, but yes a reading light would be nicer.

Works out at around 140 lux in the room thats actually pretty bright by Irish standards, since the advent of cheap cfls irish homes have been more like 50-100 lux. Its probably plenty if you're not doing hours of reading and don't also spend the day in front of a computer / doing office work etc. A decent reading light really helps to reduce eye strain but in the bedroom situation you also have to balance the effect of bright lights on sleep.