Christian extremists steal statue of Celtic sea god in Limavady

super_furry

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/christian-extremists-steal-statue-of-celtic-sea-god-from-mountain-top-in-northern-ireland-30929777.html

Reads like something from Waterford Whispers but is remarkably similar to what happened on Carrauntoohill where the cross was cut down. Wonder if there'll be a similar level of outrage and coverage in the media.

The_Valeyard

So atheists cut down a cross and Christians are stealing a statue?


So far there is little evidence of both.
(That athesitscut down the cross, and Christains stole the Statue)


Probably college students using it for beer pong.

Liamalone

Rumour has it that the local council organised this to get the town in the news, it'll be "found" soon enough. Heard it here first.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

No evidence as to who did this. Pure supposition OP, pure supposition.



Grab a link to a newspaper story, start a thread.

shruikan2553

A cross found on the scene, it doesnt mean it is definitely Christians but they would be the prime suspects. The muslims and atheists havent said they opposed such action so we can assume they agree with it and probably helped out.

Capt'n Midnight

shruikan2553 wrote: »

A cross found on the scene, it doesnt mean it is definitely Christians but they would be the prime suspects. The muslims and atheists havent said they opposed such action so we can assume they agree with it and probably helped out.

And the Jews haven't commented ?

*strokes chin*

"interesting ... "

qt3.14

"A 5ft cross emblazoned with 'Thou Shalt Not Have False Gods Before Me' was left behind after the thieves took an angle grinder to the steel frame of the statue of Manannán Mac Lir."

Probably wasn't Christians so.

Arsemageddon

Ariel Glamorous Bearded wrote: »

No evidence as to who did this. Pure supposition OP, pure supposition.


Grab a link to a newspaper story, start a thread.

Or maybe read the actual story before posting?

"A 5ft cross emblazoned with 'Thou Shalt Not Have False Gods Before Me' was left behind after the thieves took an angle grinder to the steel frame of the statue of Manannán Mac Lir."

Scrap metal thieves.

Or else the moving statues have come back........

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Arsemageddon wrote: »

Or maybe read the actual story before posting?

"A 5ft cross emblazoned with 'Thou Shalt Not Have False Gods Before Me' was left behind after the thieves took an angle grinder to the steel frame of the statue of Manannán Mac Lir."

So maybe contact the PSNI with your evidence of who did it then.

It's a nothing story anyway.

Slanl

Karl Stein

Spectacular views from up there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNhd7dLj3w

The Diabolical Monocle

God botherers versus no-god botherers.
All basement dwellers in any case.

J Mysterio

It was probably 'the atheists'. Stitch up.

RobertKK

I blame the aliens, probably arrived here illegally anyway.

Peregrine

It was a publicly commissioned statue which makes this an act of vandalism and theft. I'm not going to sit here and blame any groups but I hope whoever did it is caught and dealt with and that the statue will be re-instated.

I feel sorry for the artist.

"I'm very disturbed by this," Mr Sutton said. "It's unreal."

"Some statues are stolen for their bronze. But this was cut down at the base and the materials would not have been worth stealing."

"I made it out of clay first and then a silicone mould, before I cast it. It took me months and months to make and five or six men to carry it up there and install it."

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-30919259

DeadHand

Deleted User wrote: »

Scrap metal thieves.

Or else the moving statues have come back........

My initial suspicion too but it was made from materials that of themselves were commercially worthless, apparently.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Poor form from whoever did it. Hopefully it turns up and can be restored.

Panrich

If it took 5 or 6 men to carry it up there in the first place, I wonder how many knuckledraggers were needed to carry it down again?

Manach

They never even suspected it was the secretive clique known as the AH boardies. The motivations was apparently there was a deart of anti-religious news stories for them to pontificate on.

pueblo

I wouldn't want to be on a ferry anytime soon with any of those "Celtic Sea God" statue defilers...

Smiles35

pueblo wrote: »

I wouldn't want to be on a ferry anytime soon with any of those "Celtic Sea God" statue defilers...

They found out we might be getting some big ships from Britain and got afraid.

Arsemageddon

Ariel Glamorous Bearded wrote: »

So maybe contact the PSNI with your evidence of who did it then.

It's a nothing story anyway.

Slanl

Fcuk gettin the PSNI involved, these pesky christians will be made to atone for their blasphemy in a wicker man!

riffmongous

Would it be easy to remake if the artist still had the mould? I hope they catch the vandals and make them pay for it

ireland.man

I think it's probably jumping the gun to claim it was Christian extremists but if it was, I wonder if it's connected to the incident in which the ancient stone artifact at the Hill of Tara that was damaged by vandals last year. There's been a few incidents like these over the past few years and I know some of those sites attract certain cult/ religious types from America and elsewhere.

Maybe I'm jumping the gun too and need to post this in the conspiracy forum instead

Richard Hillman

The_Valeyard wrote: »

So atheists cut down a cross and Christians are stealing a statue?


So far there is little evidence of both.
(That athesitscut down the cross, and Christains stole the Statue)


Probably college students using it for beer pong.

Beer pong fundamentalists steal statue for worship rituals

Antar Bolaeisk

qt3.14 wrote: »

"A 5ft cross emblazoned with 'Thou Shalt Not Have False Gods Before Me' was left behind after the thieves took an angle grinder to the steel frame of the statue of Manannán Mac Lir."

Probably wasn't Christians so.

I bet it was them Taoist monks trying to frame the Christians, can't trust them Taoist monks.

PopePalpatine

Manach wrote: »

They never even suspected it was the secretive clique known as the AH boardies. The motivations was apparently there was a deart of anti-religious news stories for them to pontificate on.

Take your head out of your ass, it's obvious it was Christian fundamentalists.

Grayson

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Take your head out of your ass, it's obvious it was Christian fundamentalists.

All the evidence points towards it. And there's no reason to think anyone else did it. And it's not like there aren't enough crazy religious people up there.

yet some people think that someone is trying to frame crazy christian fundamentalists. Because obviously it can't have been the work of crazy people who take their religion too seriously.

evolving_doors

Ariel Glamorous Bearded wrote: »

No evidence as to who did this. Pure supposition OP, pure supposition.



Grab a link to a newspaper story, start a thread.

Why dont ya go and find yerself a safe so?

Paramite Pie

ireland.man wrote: »

I think it's probably jumping the gun to claim it was Christian extremists but...

Did you read the article? They replaced it with a Cross and the slogan "thou shalt not have false gods before me"...

I can't think of another agenda tbh

SpaceTime

It does highlight the ever widening gap between Northern Ireland and the Republic though.

NI : pagan statue stolen by someone demanding a more religious state.

ROI : Cross cut down by someone demanding a a less religious state.

They're increasingly very different places one becoming much more like the rest of Northern Europe the other becoming much more like the US bible belt.

I'm just observing. Not judging.

DeadHand

Terrible arseholery.

Just as bad as the Carrauntoohil debacle. Worse in a way in that even though it wasn't as long standing, it's been moved from the scene altogether.

Hopefully we'll see a similar result-the monument restored to it's rightful place.

lazybones32

"Extremist" is a bit dramatic when talking about cutting statues/art.


"Litter Extremist drops rubbish on ground beside bin"

PopePalpatine

lazybones32 wrote: »

"Extremist" is a bit dramatic when talking about cutting statues/art.


"Litter Extremist drops rubbish on ground beside bin"

Non-extremists don't leave a 5-foot cross behind with the commandment "Thou shalt not have any gods before me".

DeadHand

lazybones32 wrote: »

"Extremist" is a bit dramatic when talking about cutting statues/art.


"Litter Extremist drops rubbish on ground beside bin"

True, you know.

If this is how "Christian Extremists" express their extremism then what a
quaint, relatively harmless lot they are.

The extremists of other certain religions (well, let's face it, a certain other religion) tend to eschew petty vandalism in favour of the mass murder of innocent people.

shruikan2553

DeadHand wrote: »

True, you know.

If this is how "Christian Extremists" express their extremism then what a
quaint, relatively harmless lot they are.

The extremists of other certain religions (well, let's face it, a certain other religion) tend to eschew petty vandalism in favour of the mass murder of innocent people.

Suppose they had to take a break from throwing stuff at children on their way to school.

Anesthetize

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

And the Jews haven't commented ?

*strokes chin*

"interesting ... "

The Jedis are remaining suspiciously quiet too.

ChunkyLover54

In other news, Islamic extremists behead innocent hostage.

qt3.14

DeadHand wrote: »

True, you know.

If this is how "Christian Extremists" express their extremism then what a
quaint, relatively harmless lot they are.

The extremists of other certain religions (well, let's face it, a certain other religion) tend to eschew petty vandalism in favour of the mass murder of innocent people.

This is gateway vandalism though. First it's desecrating the monuments of other gods, then it's gathering up the other gods followers for massacre.

lazybones32

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Non-extremists don't leave a 5-foot cross behind with the commandment "Thou shalt not have any gods before me".

Ah yes, the 5 ft. Cross...the calling card of Society's most feared extremists.

PopePalpatine

lazybones32 wrote: »

Ah yes, the 5 ft. Cross...the calling card of Society's most feared extremists.

If you were any more obtuse, you'd be a straight line.

A non-extremist wouldn't steal a statue of the Celtic sea god and replace it with a 5ft cross bearing the 1st commandment. It's not that hard to understand.

Peregrine

lazybones32 wrote: »

Ah yes, the 5 ft. Cross...the calling card of Society's most feared extremists.

Just because they're not society's most feared extremists doesn't mean extremism shouldn't be tackled.

If they find whoever did it, no one is calling for the army to storm their houses and shoot them. They still have to be dealt with in a manner proportional to the crime committed.

lazybones32

PopePalpatine wrote: »

If you were any more obtuse, you'd be a straight line.

A non-extremist wouldn't steal a statue of the Celtic sea god and replace it with a 5ft cross bearing the 1st commandment. It's not that hard to understand.

Until a culprit(s) is apprehended, or some group claims responsibility, we don't know who committed this act of extremism. It could be a false-flag operation...People other than Christians have access to and knowledge of the 10 Commandments. Why make up your mind when enough facts aren't available?

Nim wrote: »

Just because they're not society's most feared extremists doesn't mean extremism shouldn't be tackled.

If they find whoever did it, no one is calling for the army to storm their houses and shoot them. They still have to be dealt with in a manner proportional to the crime committed.

A certain caravan-dwelling people, who have a rich and vibrant culture of their own (which I respect), steal valuable metals (copper) from peoples homes on a regular basis and steal less valuable metals (scrap iron/metal) on a far more frequent basis than this act of 'extremism': should they be confirmed as extremists? or is extreme maybe too strong a word to describe an act of vandalism that was delivered as a social statement?

My gripe is with calling the offenders 'extremists' for what is a petty crime.

PopePalpatine

The statue has been recovered, according to BBC News.

catallus

Thank God!

Karl Stein

catallus wrote: »

Thank God!

And Zeus, Ra, Ganesha and all the rest!

Frynge

Liamalone wrote: »

Rumour has it that the local council organised this to get the town in the news, it'll be "found" soon enough. Heard it here first.

Nailed it.

Cienciano

DeadHand wrote: »

True, you know.

If this is how "Christian Extremists" express their extremism then what a
quaint, relatively harmless lot they are.

The extremists of other certain religions (well, let's face it, a certain other religion) tend to eschew petty vandalism in favour of the mass murder of innocent people.

Yeah, there's no other incidents of problems related to religion in northern ireland. The christians up there get along fine

coolhull

This Sea God fella. . . Was he a Loyalist or a Republican God?
Has any group claimed responsibility yet?

whupdedo

coolhull wrote: »

This Sea God fella. . . Was he a Loyalist or a Republican God?
Has any group claimed responsibility yet?

Was he a Protestant atheist or a catholic atheist ??? :pac:

Patser

Thay found the statue, mostly intact, and even then it's managed to start a new controversy. It was found by a rambling club, who passed on the news to nearby soldiers out training, who contacted the police - and between the soldiers and police they recovered it.

Which is a 'cause of concern' for a local SF councillor, who thought the 'British Army had all gone home.' They were from the Royal Irish Regiment, I thought the clue was in the name

http://www.derryjournal.com/news/concern-at-british-army-involvement-in-recovery-of-sea-god-statue-1-6594126

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-31595806

Edit: It was about 300m from where it had originally stood