Leo Varadkar for Taoiseach

Polo_Mint

Should Leo Varadkar become Taoiseach?

Hes the only person who says it how it is rather then bullsh1tting

BoJack Horseman

He looks aged for a 36 year old.....

5 years as Taoiseach & he'll look like the guy who chose the wrong chalice in 'last Crusade'.

Timberrrrrrrr

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

He looks aged for a 36 year old.....

5 years as Taoiseach & he'll look like the guy who chose the wrong chalice in 'last Crusade'.

Pressures of the job

http://db3ulju1ay1a8.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/obama2.jpg

Day Lewin

Can't see him ever living down the nickname, though...

"Hey, Verruca!!""

(Callan's Kicks)

BoJack Horseman

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

He looks aged for a 36 year old.....

5 years as Taoiseach & he'll look like the guy who chose the wrong chalice in 'last Crusade'.

I swear comment like this rival any good standup comedian, Some days its a pleasure to read these quirks.

and yes I agree with you, 36??? I couldn't believe he was that young!!! he looks mid 40's. at least.

I do notice though how threads like these pop up post OUTING emself!!!!
stupid carry one.

Sexualtiy aside, yes though he is likable and dare we say "he comes across as a straight shooter!!! ha ha ha ha

conorhal

I admire the fact that he speaks his mind, what comes out of his mouth however is a bunch of neo-con libertarianism. That I don't respect, so no thanks.

The Peanut

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

He looks aged for a 36 year old.....

5 years as Taoiseach & he'll look like the guy who chose the wrong chalice in 'last Crusade'.

There's no doubt that lack of awareness removes a huge amount of stress. Enda is a perfect example; relatively fresh-faced and certainly aging well.

ZiabR

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

He looks aged for a 36 year old.....

5 years as Taoiseach & he'll look like the guy who chose the wrong chalice in 'last Crusade'.

Just what I needed on a Friday morning... a good laugh

suicide_circus

Make no mistake he is a shrewd politician, he picks his battles and he is not some kind of new age political saviour. That said, if himself and Stephen Donnelly started a party together I'd be interested.

DeJa VooDoo

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Should Leo Varadkar become Taoiseach?

Hes the only person who says it how it is rather then bullsh1tting

He said it before the 2011 GE too...... remember 'not another red cent'?

He's a bullsh11ter.















So he probably is 'taoiseach material'!

mfceiling

Who cares...they're all the same. Get their nose in the door and it's what's best for them and screw the rest of us. FF FG Labour whatever...same clowns, different circus.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

I'd imagine he'll be leader of FG at some stage but Enda won't let go of the reins till he's good and ready. That definitely won't be before the next election so it'll be at least 5 years anyway. Plus now Leo has got the health portfolio which can do brutal things to a politicians appeal. A more cynical person than myself might suggest that Enda assigned Varadkar there to bloody him up a bit in case there was an unexpected heave.

Laois_Man

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Pressures of the job

http://db3ulju1ay1a8.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/obama2.jpg

Best example I ever saw was Hillary Clinton who aged about 25 years in the 4 years she was secretary of state!

God help her if she wins the presidential election next year

Kermit.de.frog

This is your first thought in the morning OP?

Streetwalker

No thanks. If he was any more right wing he'd fall of the earth

Streetwalker

Laois_Man wrote: »

Best example I ever saw was Hillary Clinton who aged about 25 years in the 4 years she was secretary of state!

God help her if she wins the presidential election next year

She looks better in the second one imo.

Riskymove

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Should Leo Varadkar become Taoiseach?

Hes the only person who says it how it is rather then bullsh1tting

This is a common refrain these days. Leo certainly has the art of saying what he thinks about (mostly what are other people's) areas of Government

Can anyone indicate his achievements as a politician?

DeJa VooDoo

Riskymove wrote: »

This is a common refrain these days. Leo certainly has the art of saying what he thinks about (mostly what are other people's) areas of Government

Can anyone indicate his achievements as a politician?

600+ people on trolleys?

Broke FFail's record anyway.

Timberrrrrrrr

DeJa VooDoo wrote: »

600+ people on trolleys?

:rolleyes:

BoJack Horseman

Streetwalker wrote: »

If he was any more right wing he'd fall of the earth

If Leo is far-right, then you have no idea what right wing means.

DeJa VooDoo

Standard one liner boy has now become standard one smiley boy.
MENSA must be proud.

Timberrrrrrrr

DeJa VooDoo wrote: »

Standard one liner boy has now become standard one smiley boy.
MENSA must be proud.

I see you had to edit your previous one line response before you could post that

MENSA would be proud :cool:

Laois_Man

Streetwalker wrote: »

She looks better in the second one imo.

Its not the best example. First one I found

this is more like i

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/34000/Hillary-Clinton-with-Bad-Teeth-34061.jpg

golfball37

I don't think the old guard root and branch members of FG will accept him as their leader because of his sexuality.

DeJa VooDoo

golfball37 wrote: »

I don't think the old guard root and branch members of FG will accept him as their leader because of his sexuality.

Sure enda's taken to hanging around in gay bars now, so no problem there.
Is there an election or referendum on the horizon by any chance?

_Kaiser_

Leo has a good public image and he talks a good game - and rather than hinder him, his "coming out" will only aid this with the younger more progressive part of the electorate, but I'd be concerned that it's more show than substance.
He spends far too much time on getting himself in the news commenting about everything else EXCEPT his area of responsibility.

If he did rise to the top spot I think Bertie will need to hand over his Teflon Taoiseach title

Boom_Bap

Serious bad press about hospitals and medical care.
Health Minister not doing anything.
Need smokescreen.
Smokescreen engaged.
Now suddenly being touted as the next leader of the country.

He'd fit the role perfectly.

bjork

Why what has he done of note lately?

DeJa VooDoo

bjork wrote: »

Why what has he done of note lately?

I seen him interviewed last week where he was claiming that the health service was in as bad a condition around 2004 under FFail.
This was his defence to charges put to him that FFail never had over 600 people on hospital trolleys.

That's the standard this muppet and the rest of FG aim for, 'not as bad, or as good as, FFail'.

Sad really.

_Kaiser_

DeJa VooDoo wrote: »

I seen him interviewed last week where he was claiming that the health service was in as bad a condition around 2004 under FFail.
This was his defence to charges put to him that FFail never had over 600 people on hospital trolleys.

That's the standard this muppet and the rest of FG aim for, 'not as bad, or as good as, FFail'.

Sad really.

Sure why not.. it's the FG party line - whenever you're put on the spot blame the last lot (or SF). 4 years later and they're still pulling the same stunt.

It's why FG are actually WORSE than FF (and that's saying something!) IMO as they came in without the baggage promising change and reform but instead obediently implemented EU/FF policy and shafted the ordinary public.
They've equally shown themselves to be just as able for the cronyism, corruption and incompetence of their predecessors.. the only reason we don't see more of it is because they are hardly ever in government.

As for Enda himself, he has to be a contender for the worst "leader" this country has ever had - and I know lots of people will say "uh uh, Cowen was worse" and while he was certainly unfit for the job, he was also thrown under the bus to save Bertie remember.
Enda however is not just weak, he's cowardly - refusing to debate or explain himself to the people he supposedly represents, being the EU's whipping/poster boy for Austerity, and he goes into hiding whenever something happens - resulting in a parade of conflicting statements from his ministers.. which shows he can't even lead his own government never mind the country.

FG's only role in Irish politics seems to be to screw things up so badly that they make FF viable again :rolleyes:

conorhal

golfball37 wrote: »

I don't think the old guard root and branch members of FG will accept him as their leader because of his sexuality.

I suspect that you underestimate what your average TD is prepared to swallow (If you'll pardon the pun) to keep their seat, which is generally as far as their principles extend. If Leo looks like a vote winner he will get the job.

Baggy Trousers

My days of voting for FG have ended but I do believe he is the best politician in FG and probably the Dáil.

_Jumper_

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

My days of voting for FG have ended but I do believe he is the best politician in FG and probably the Dáil.

Why

Baggy Trousers

_Jumper_ wrote: »

Why

Why what?

efb

I'd Probably prefer Covney, more centre that Leo.

Dayum

He's the only person that says it how it is and doesn't BS?!

FFS.

"Not one red cent"....gtfo with Leo Varadkar....the man is a cretin and a symbol of everything that's wrong with this country.

Baggy Trousers

Dayum wrote: »

He's the only person that says it how it is and doesn't BS?!

FFS.

"Not one red cent"....gtfo with Leo Varadkar....the man is a cretin.

Stupid move for sure but I guess he might have believed FG were going to play hard ball when they got power. He didn't know Enda wanted to lead FF-Lite.

golfball37

efb wrote: »

I'd Probably prefer Covney, more centre that Leo.

Coveney is too nice to leadership material imo. He's not a good debater either.

He's a fantastic minister however and I can see why he's been touted.

Dayum

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

Stupid move for sure but I guess he might have believed FG were going to play hard ball when they got power. He didn't know Enda wanted to lead FF-Lite.

Then he should of stepped down or left Fine Gael.

He was thinking of himself and his wallet - like all of them have done since the beginning of this state.

brevity

God only knows why anyone would want to get into politics these days. Money? Power? Hardly seems worth it when everyone is out for ya no matter what you try to do.

Dayum

brevity wrote: »

God only knows why anyone would want to get into politics these days. Money? Power? Hardly seems worth it when everyone is out for ya no matter what you try to do.

These people are of a certain breed - thick skinned happy in the knowledge of their gold plated public pensions.

Leeches on hard working men and women everywhere.

efb

golfball37 wrote: »

Coveney is too nice to leadership material imo. He's not a good debater either.

He's a fantastic minister however and I can see why he's been touted.

Convey would be a good face, he's a v good negotiator

freedominacup

golfball37 wrote: »

I don't think the old guard root and branch members of FG will accept him as their leader because of his sexuality.

My oul boy is a fg activist since he was a teenager, he's heading for 70 now and he didn't bat an eyelid at Leo coming out. The only thing he said was something about it was only sf and ff who hadn't any front bench member who was openly lgbt. He seemed to think it would give fg a good bounce in the polls tbh.

Baggy Trousers

efb wrote: »

Convey would be a good face, he's a v good negotiator

"Earlier today, Mr Coveney said he would not be tied down by "civil wars baggage" and he had no "ideological issues" with both parties forming a government."

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/fitzgerald-rebukes-coveney-over-suggestion-of-fg-ff-coalition-1.2074436

Minister for Justice Frances Fitzgerald has rebuked Minister for Agriculture Simon Coveney for his suggestion that Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil could share power after the next election.

efb

Baggy Trousers wrote: »

"Earlier today, Mr Coveney said he would not be tied down by "civil wars baggage" and he had no "ideological issues" with both parties forming a government."

Id love a FG/FF coalition

Baggy Trousers

efb wrote: »

Id love a FG/FF coalition

I think we need SF in there next time somehow - just to expose them and show the Irish people that all the political parties are a joke and our political system and permanent government are not fit for purpose.

jobbridge4life

Varadkar is given credit as a straight shooter. I don;t agree. With that observation. You are not a straight shooter if you wait until it is absolutely clear that the public have completely rejected the rest of the Government's spin to say what was obvious from day one just so you can make maximum political gain. Less straight more shrewd.

sh1tstirrer

Himself and coveney have ear grating false accents it would be some torture listening to either of them if they became the leader of fg.

BoJack Horseman

sh1tstirrer wrote: »

Himself and coveney have ear grating false accents it would be some torture listening to either of them if they became the leader of fg.

Both have pretty middle of the road accents.
What is tortuous about either?

In the pantheon of accents, both speak better than your healy-Raes/ Mattie Magraths of this world.

foggy_lad

He is like so many of the new breed of politician these days, all frill and no knickers!

DeJa VooDoo

More promises and pledges rehashed to keep the plebs believing.....

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/government-reveals-25-health-priorities-659291.html

Just get on and do the work and stop clogging the airways with this regurgitated horsesh1t FFS.