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To Connemara and Beyond ...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    nop98 wrote: »
    No running all week due to illness. However I did go to a Pilates session today and had 10 minutes to spare beforehand, so jogged a little barefoot on the treadmill beforehand. It made me realize how much I missed it! Hopefully 60-90 minutes easy on Sunday.

    Hope you're ok! Take it easy getting back into things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Neady83 wrote: »
    Sorry to hear that Nop, hope you're on the mend. There's nothing like being sick to remind us that we don't have to run, we get to run :)
    Singer wrote: »
    Hope you're ok! Take it easy getting back into things.

    Thanks folks :) just a nasty cold like about everybody else!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    nop98 wrote: »
    Thanks folks :) just a nasty cold like about everybody else!

    Hope you're on the mend, Nop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    Ok, intervention time N. Run 60-90 mins tomorrow and I will mount my high horse and say 'neighhhhhh'. You have been sick...30/35 mins max only tomorrow to shake the legs out, ok? OKKKK? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    annapr wrote: »
    Hope you're on the mend, Nop!

    Thanks Anna - I guess I don't need to remind you those Wicklow Mountains aren't getting any less steep, so I need to get some miles / elevation in soon! :D
    Dubgal72 wrote: »
    Ok, intervention time N. Run 60-90 mins tomorrow and I will mount my high horse and say 'neighhhhhh'. You have been sick...30/35 mins max only tomorrow to shake the legs out, ok? OKKKK? :D

    But, but, but .... ok, I am now suitably intimidated by the prospect of being hunted down by packs of medal-winning Bray Runners when I stay out longer / later than I am allowed.

    If I really put the after-burners on, I can go up Quarry Road and come back down past Puck's Castle in about 40 minutes - I should just be about back before I get caught. :rolleyes: Note to self: don't wear orange tomorrow morning, they won't recognize me :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Oh you're in trouble Dubgal knows everything !!! Hope you feel better soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    So, based on the above guidance (of the "ignore-at-your-peril" type), I stayed well clear of 60-90 minutes and instead had a lovely 30 minute run around the 'hood. OK, 35 minutes.

    Legs felt fine, in fact the enforced rest seemed to have done them the world of good. Still a bit snottery. TMI, I know.


    OK, 40 minutes but not a second longer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭diego_b


    nop98 wrote: »
    So, based on the above guidance (of the "ignore-at-your-peril" type), I stayed well clear of 60-90 minutes and instead had a lovely 30 minute run around the 'hood. OK, 35 minutes.

    Legs felt fine, in fact the enforced rest seemed to have done them the world of good. Still a bit snottery. TMI, I know.


    OK, 40 minutes but not a second longer.

    Good stuff nop and with that word, snottery you've just given me a glorious new word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    diego_b wrote: »
    Good stuff nop and with that word, snottery you've just given me a glorious new word.

    LOL, you're welcome! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Bitta catch-up again.

    Tue Feb 16
    : 40 minutes easy: 7.3km @ 5:26 min/km [4.5M @ 8:45 min/mi]. Same old, same old.

    Wed Feb 17: nada

    Thu Feb 18: 5M at a reasonable pace: 8.1km @ 5:18 [5M @ 8:31 min/mi]. Day off due to mid-term. Me and my two dorks went to the zoo. It was cold, fresh, and sunny and we saw all the animals we wanted to see. My fella wanted to see scarlet macaws, and my girl the bongos. What's wrong with elephants and zebra's again? Anyway, we walked for hours and had the best time. When their mum came home, I dashed out for a quick 5 miles, loved it. :D

    Fri Feb 19: Pilates, man, I am so unfit. Struggling and shaking and panting and a big red face. Pff.

    Sat Feb 20: Hurling match outside in the effing rain and driving wind (and me on the sideline). No running.

    Sun Feb 21: 10M LSR: 16.0km @ 5:45 min/km [10M @ 9:16 min/mi]. Up and down the coast to Dalkey and back. Particularly inspired by a certain former DCM Novices mentor who told me she'd done hill-repeats on Strathmore Road. I've ran that a few times and its brutal but very rewarding and really nice scenery. Ran to Dalkey, clocked up an extra loop there, and ran home. Was truly knackered afterwards. Back in my estate, got attacked by some massive dog (his owner just about managed to restrain him). Suffice it to say, he's now had an opportunity to learn plenty of Dutch swearwords, and the right intonation.

    Mon Feb 22: nada. Sore left knee today, not good. Mweeh. :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭denis b


    nop98 wrote: »
    Hurling match outside in the effing rain and driving wind (and me on the sideline). No running.

    (

    Nop,

    I have some experience in this department. Wear your running gear to the game. They always meet hours before the sliothar is thrown in which gives you time to get a session in. Conveniently the games are always played in a park and you get to run somewhere different :D.

    Get back just before the game and then volunteer to be umpire :eek:. Everybody loves an umpire......not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    denis b wrote: »
    Nop,

    I have some experience in this department. Wear your running gear to the game. They always meet hours before the sliothar is thrown in which gives you time to get a session in. Conveniently the games are always played in a park and you get to run somewhere different :D.

    Get back just before the game and then volunteer to be umpire :eek:. Everybody loves an umpire......not.

    Alternatively get a hot chocolate and wait in the car with the heat on :)

    Saturday morning was not ideal hurling weather :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    denis b wrote: »
    Nop,

    I have some experience in this department. Wear your running gear to the game. They always meet hours before the sliothar is thrown in which gives you time to get a session in. Conveniently the games are always played in a park and you get to run somewhere different :D.

    Get back just before the game and then volunteer to be umpire :eek:. Everybody loves an umpire......not.
    annapr wrote: »
    Alternatively get a hot chocolate and wait in the car with the heat on :)

    Saturday morning was not ideal hurling weather :eek:

    :) Interesting feedback. I have actually done it a couple of times (e.g. https://www.strava.com/activities/322690526) - granted, in lovely weather. But I always feel a little self-conscious doing so. Some of the coaches are so dedicated and spent so much time getting all this organized for our boys that I feel I have to help out, even if it just to stand on the sideline, encourage, pick up stray balls, etc.

    I have also done the sitting in the car and reading a book in peace-and-quiet for half an hour - bliss. :) At least you're not that visible!

    Knee trouble seems to have calmed down again so:

    Tue Feb 24: 5+M easy in lovely cold crisp weather. I forgot my Garmin so ran without it - and yes, it does count!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    nop98 wrote: »
    Tue Feb 24: 5+M easy in lovely cold crisp weather. I forgot my Garmin so ran without it - and yes, it does count!

    :D:D:D ok then!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Left of at the Garminless 5M of Feb 23 (not Feb 24 as typo'd above).

    Web Feb 24: >3M easy w/ hill sprints. 5.7km @ 5:38 min/km [ 3.5M @ 9:05 min/mi]
    The young fella had to go to his GA training, and as recommended above, I brought the runners and made a run for it (ha ha) as soon as they got started. Along the leafy Southside coastline, e.g. Bulloch Harbour towards Dun Laoghaire and back. I noticed a nice little incline on the way back and decided to fit in some inpromptu hill-sprints. Nice enough little run, and not the usual freeze-your-backside off that is jr GAA training.

    Thu Feb 25: <6M steady: 9.3km @ 5:19 min/km [5.8M @ 8:34 min/mi]
    Gallop to Cabinteely park at lunchtime with DCM buddy. We went fast enough. Can't remember much else about it.

    Fri Feb 26: Pilates

    Sun Feb 28: 4M easy with a kick: 7.1km @ 5:14 min/km [4.4M @ 8:25 min/mi]
    Found myself in Athlone trying to win the National Bridge Championships. Failed (again) to do so. Did manage to drag myself out on Sunday morning for a nice run. It was freezing cold and I wore my tracksuits for the first time ever. Very nice run along the Shannon, admiring the swans and the students out rowing. Ran the last mile hard(er).

    Mon Feb 29: 8M hilly: 13.2km @ 5:23 min/km [8.2M @ 8:40 min/mi]
    It'll be hard to believe, but playing cards all weekend is exhausting. I was also somewhat fed up with work so 2 + 2 together made for a cheeky day off. Dropped kids to school, read with the kids in my daughters class for ages, and then went running. I had planned a route with a 3M steady incline (from the N11 at Loughlinstown up towards the M50 bridge near Rathmichael, and up towards Kilternan and Carrickgollogan). The WW Mountains HM apparently features such a long slog-fest uphill.

    I did question my sanity to be running out in the howling wind and rain (and uphill) but I did start to enjoy it once I got warm (I never wore so many layers for running). On the descent down Quarry Road I just let the legs do what they felt like. According to Strava, it was my fastest km ever.

    Tue Mar 1: 4M easy: 7km @ 5:36 min/km [4.3M @ 9:00 min/mi]
    Small lunchtime loop with my "sub 2h HM" coaching project. He's running the WW road HM, and I'd be happy if he manages 2h15. Not sure what that says for my coaching abilities.

    Thu Mar 3: <6M steady: 9.3 min @ 5:21 min/km [5.8M @ 8:37 min/mi]
    Cabinteely Park loop all lonely by myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    nop98 wrote: »
    It'll be hard to believe, but playing cards all weekend is exhausting. I was also somewhat fed up with work so 2 + 2 together made for a cheeky day off.

    I'm going to borrow that one of these days!

    Nice paces on those training runs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Nice paces on those training runs.

    Agree! Those paces are really coming down, nice work!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    I'm going to borrow that one of these days!

    Nice paces on those training runs.

    Cheeky holidays are the best ones. :)
    Bungy Girl wrote: »
    Agree! Those paces are really coming down, nice work!

    Thanks HSR & BG. It's probably more to do with the weather being so bad :) but there's a silver lining at least!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


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    Bit philosophical while out running today. It's been a hard couple of weeks in work and I typically mull these things over when out. Today was no different.

    Between a colleague and I, we decided to cut the umbilical cord to a partner team, as the collaboration (such as it was) resulted in delays, frustration, and more delays only. While this was the right, long overdue call, it all resulted in plenty of agro and (far too much) arguing.

    Said colleague, clearly worried about the resulting effects of all the agro (as I faced the brunt of it all), sent me the attached image and said, as I went out for one of my lunchtime runs: "be like the dog, not the man".

    The whole situation made me think of an obscure Cranberries song called Daffodil Lament (ironically from their album No Need To Argue). I adored this song when I was in university, long before I moved to Eire. The lyrics contain reference to a difficult but definitive break-up, followed by a remarkably upbeat "the daffodils looked lovely today". So, that has become a bit of my motto over the past weeks: relentless optimism. The daffodils look lovely today. I am probably missing a whole lot of subtle undertones to the lyric, but sure.

    Today, as I started plodding up Quin's Road into the hills as prep for the Wicklow Mountains HM (why do I sign up for these things), I really very much wanted to be like the dog. It took a couple of km's but after that, all was forgiven. Well, a lot. :) Crap as I am at it, I love love love the cathartic effect of running. I finished doing about 15 hilly kms at a reasonable pace - a good enough final test for next week's half marathon.

    On, and there was a whole bunch of daffodils along the Ferndale Road as I ran by which made me smile. They sure looked lovely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    nop98 wrote: »
    Test

    so true!!! but then my dog doesn't have to pay the bills... :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    You can appricate beauty of daffodil, dog only wants to cock leg and p!!s on
    Them, it's not to bad being the man, all about prospective, best luck in Wicklow
    And enjoy.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Right, back to running.

    March 7: bit of treadmilling.
    Nobody to run with and only little time, so I decided on an impromptu interval session indoors. 400m at ~5k pace followed by 400m at ~HM pace - repeated 6 or 7 times.

    March 8: 5M easy: 8.1km @ 5:19 min/km [5M @ 8:33 min/mi]
    Again deserted by all my buddies (insert small violins here :() but I couldn't face the sweaty mess again. So I went out for an easy 5M all solo.

    On the way back to work, I spotted a runner ahead, I see him running all the time and he looks like a superb runner - many levels above me.

    However, he was going incredibly slow and very deliberate doing so. On my easy pace I was gaining ground on him but didn't want to overtake (it just seemed wrong). So I hung back a bit but eventually decided it was ridiculous and overtook. I fully expecting him to come charging by at some stage but it never happened. :pac:

    Anyway - so I guess I'll taper a little for the WW MNT HM on Sunday. From studying treads, race reports and pictures, it seems that one should add ~20% to PB time to come up with a realistic target time. This suggests 2h05 - 2h12 (the latter based on my soft-ish HM PB of ~1h50 - I never did a HM in anger since starting DCM training).

    That all said, since I have actually felt really good recently - and inspired by FD and Neady's Kinvara heroic's, I am secretly aiming for <2h.... Famous last words to recall when I collapse over the line in 2h20 or worse... :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    am falling around the place laughing here - whoohoo am inspiration to people way faster than I am :D best of luck on Sunday :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Firedance wrote: »
    am falling around the place laughing here - whoohoo am inspiration to people way faster than I am :D best of luck on Sunday :)

    The dedication to your training and the results you get from it are an inspiration to all - regardless of pace! :) And the "way faster" is quickly disappearing, too! Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Nop with a really great DCM training block behind you plus all the hard work that you've been doing since then, I predict great things for next weekend and you above anyone will be inspired by the scenery and beauty you will be surrounded by.

    I can't wait for the report :)

    I really like your post above about the Daffodils. There's enough doom and gloom in the world, we all need to smell the roses and admire the daffodils a bit more :) you're a ray of sunshine :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭denis b


    A great route Nop and no doubt that you will do really well. Enjoy the day and bring us back some of your inspiration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Kennyg71


    Just word of caution, maybe misplaced but notice you have not done a lot
    Of miles up or above half marathon, so maybe one to enjoy more than race
    Especially on tough course, but u know how fit you are at moment, all best again
    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Mrs Mc


    Best of luck Sunday NOP :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭nop98


    Neady83 wrote: »
    Nop with a really great DCM training block behind you plus all the hard work that you've been doing since then, I predict great things for next weekend and you above anyone will be inspired by the scenery and beauty you will be surrounded by.

    I can't wait for the report :)

    I really like your post above about the Daffodils. There's enough doom and gloom in the world, we all need to smell the roses and admire the daffodils a bit more :) you're a ray of sunshine :)

    Thank you Neady! Not sure I deserve all your praise but very kind of you to say so! :) I am driving all my colleagues insane with my optimism and references to daffodils. :D

    Tentatively looking at the weather forecast, and it seems that it will be a nice day for it - which will do the scenery no harm at all.
    denis b wrote: »
    A great route Nop and no doubt that you will do really well. Enjoy the day and bring us back some of your inspiration.
    Mrs Mc wrote: »
    Best of luck Sunday NOP :)

    Thank you Denis and Mrs Mc!
    Kennyg71 wrote: »
    Just word of caution, maybe misplaced but notice you have not done a lot
    Of miles up or above half marathon, so maybe one to enjoy more than race
    Especially on tough course, but u know how fit you are at moment, all best again
    :)

    Thank you KennyG. Your words (in their trusted sonnet-form) are wise and I will listen to them. I got some more feedback from FD about the need to respect that +20% guideline so maybe 2h is a tad optimistic (even tho I have increased mileage of late and feel niggle-free and good).

    I will indeed focus more on enjoying the scenery and remembering bits for the race-report, rather than swallowing back the lactic acid and aiming to collapse just over the finish-line! Thanks again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    nop98 wrote: »
    Thank you KennyG. Your words (in their trusted sonnet-form)

    :pac:

    Don't forget that there are downhills too :cool: Really interested to hear how you get on!


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