The Good Old Days

chops018

Were kids really better off without Xboxes, Playstations and iPhones etc?

Going outside on a summers day and not coming home until dark and you couldn't contact them.

Kids being properly punished if they did something wrong.

Basically do you think technology has ruined childhoods for kids like you hear so many people saying these days?

I think it's good that we are developing but maybe it does impact a little too much on kids lives, but hey, we have to change right?

What you guys think?

dmc17

Couldn't have said it better myself

dodderangler

Fact your using technology to post this thread and I'm also replying to it using technology makes this highly ironic

Sheep Lover

Definitely, when we had no treatment for easily curable diseases was like a golden age, rooted out the weak and only the strong survived.

chops018

I actually remember games like tip the can and to be honest no computer game could generate the fun I had playing these games.

Menas

My dad used to say the same thing to me in the 80s.
For fck sake, he had to piss on his feet to keep them warm in Monaghan in the 30s.....how could those have been better days?

dmc17

Even with the older consoles, at least you were in the same room with people when you were playing them

chops018

Trigger Happy wrote: »

My dad used to say the same thing to me in the 80s.
For fck sake, he had to piss on his feet to keep them warm in Monaghan in the 30s.....how could those have been better days?

That's what I was wondering.

Is it just older people always look at things this way and think that their childhood was automatically better?

dmc17

Trigger Happy wrote: »

My dad used to say the same thing to me in the 80s.
For fck sake, he had to piss on his feet to keep them warm in Monaghan in the 30s.....how could those have been better days?

Hey, don't knock it 'till you've tried it

DColeman

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

Kevin McCloud

Trigger Happy wrote: »

For fck sake, he had to piss on his feet to keep them warm in Monaghan in the 30s.....how could those have been better days?

Get frost bite in a shot.

Menas

chops018 wrote: »

That's what I was wondering.

Is it just older people always look at things this way and think that their childhood was automatically better?

I think it is. The majority of people look back on their own childhood as the best days of their lives.
Who is to say that my Dad was not happier than I was. Does it really matter?
I dont think so.

I am rearing a son now myself and he has stuff that I could never have dreamed of, but my greatest pleasure comes from seeing him playing Lego just like I used to. But that is just the melancholy in me.

Fr_Dougal

Old people thread lol.

Karl Stein

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.





Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

Bootros Bootros

chops018 wrote: »

That's what I was wondering.

Is it just older people always look at things this way and think that their childhood was automatically better?

Yes. Kids have been playing indoors with consoles since the 80's. They also play outdoors. Can't get the feckers off the street in many estates.

arse..biscuits

Kids today will never know the joy of finding someone's porn mag stashed in a bush

Bootros Bootros

DColeman wrote: »

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

Well that's definitely not true.

Turtyturd

DColeman wrote: »

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

You were doing it wrong.

El_Duderino 09

You mean the good old days before technology ruined everything.

Before free education children didn't have to stay in school. Instead they had the opportunity to start a back breaking career as an unskilled labourer at the age of 13.

Before technology ruined things and parents died of simple conditions. Children orphaned at 10 are bound to have a better childhood than today's children with living parents.

We pine for the days before the Internet and cultural of gaining information. Back then people didn't know anything about sex or sexuality so when they were abused by an adult they didn't even know what had happened or what to do next.

Back then you were 1 of 10 children and fathers didn't know all their names. How could a child of today hope for that type of dispassionate parenting.

The good old days.

whupdedo

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

You mean the good old days before technology ruined everything.

Before free education children didn't have to stay in school. Instead they had the opportunity to start a back breaking career as an unskilled labourer at the age of 13.

Before technology ruined things and parents died of simple conditions. Children orphaned at 10 are bound to have a better childhood than today's children with living parents.

We pine for the days before the Internet and cultural of gaining information. Back then people didn't know anything about sex or sexuality so when they were abused by an adult they didn't even know what had happened or what to do next.

Back then you were 1 of 10 children and fathers didn't know all their names. How could a child of today hope for that type of dispassionate parenting.

The good old days.

I can't see how you picked up on any of this nonsense in the original post, it clearly asks whether technology has had an effect of kids of today and if times were better without it . You seem to have plucked your post entirely out of your imagination with no regard given to the op

_Kaiser_

DColeman wrote: »

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

You did this before - it was wrong then and it's still wrong!

The Backwards Man

When I was a kid I used to be dragged to the bog when I would rather lie in the house watching The Dukes Of Hazzard and The Fall Guy.

Nowadays you'd have me drag me out of the bog.

zcorpian88

DColeman wrote: »

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

What? Are you joking? 21st century music has nothing on music of the 20th century. Most "popular music" now is manufactured drivil aimed at teeny boppers, not really about the music, it's about the look, some douchey looking knob with wavey hair staring lovingly into the camera and way too many crappy cover songs and derivitive nonense pop songs with repetitive or sexualized lyrics.

Also there was lots to love for me growing up in the 90's, like I had a sega mega drive as a kid but my folks only let us set it up to play in the evening time on weekends or really rainy days where I couldn't go out and play.

Later got like other games consoles like the ps1, N64 but it never stopped me from going outside. Played all sorts of games like tip the can, hide and go seek or just kicking a ball about, played in the woods, went cycling. I did all sorts. Stayed out all day and came home at a particular time for meals and God help ya if you came home late because you had no phone to be contacted on.

Kids nowadays are getting very lazy by being allowed to have the latest games console in their rooms, telly's, dvds, even their own computer to access social media, the latest phone for texting mates and it's no wonder kids are overweight now from lack of going outside. I still live in the neighbourhood I grew up in and there isn't anywhere near as many kids out playing as there was in my day. There is a few that tear around on bikes and play kerbs which is great to see, the parents aren't pushovers, good to get kids outside, not natural having them in all day, every day.

The_Valeyard

Sega Mega drive

Micromachines 2

Four player.

Great craic

Mr. teddywinkles

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I think it is. The majority of people look back on their own childhood as the best days of their lives.
Who is to say that my Dad was not happier than I was. Does it really matter?
I dont think so.

I am rearing a son now myself and he has stuff that I could never have dreamed of, but my greatest pleasure comes from seeing him playing Lego just like I used to. But that is just the melancholy in me.

Not quite there with my young lad yet. Looking forward to getting him Lego technic. Loved that stuff when I was small

Leinsterblue

I think kids are better off today, the only difference being that the lifestyle of a kid nowadays compared to early 80's is much more sedentary physically, this is purely down to play station wii, etc... also sports wise kids can't be arsed generally to kick a ball in a muddy irish field and won't play as much on street if at all... when such distractions did no exist as computer games there was more partiicipation.

The positives are that kids are not subject to corporal punishment in schools which back in the day made education a sometimes frightening experience.

zcorpian88

Mr. teddywinkles wrote: »

Not quite there with my young lad yet. Looking forward to getting him Lego technic. Loved that stuff when I was small

F**k I'd love a big box of all kinds of lego now, I remember my cousin had this big huge box of lego, I didn't have a hell of a lot of lego when I was young so I'd go to his house and we'd build all sorts of mad imaginitive stuff. Kept us entertained for hours.

El_Duderino 09

whupdedo wrote: »

I can't see how you picked up on any of this nonsense in the original post, it clearly asks whether technology has had an effect of kids of today and if times were better without it . You seem to have plucked your post entirely out of your imagination with no regard given to the op

LOL. The point of my post which you wholly missed is that the op is only looking for negative aspects of technology.

OP could be rephrased "if you ignore the positives of technology and focus solely on the negatives, then is technology mostly negative for today's youth"?

o1s1n

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Sega Mega drive

Micromachines 2

Four player.

Great craic

You can play that 8 player too. Two people to each of the 4 joypads.

The cars drive automatically, one person steers with left and right, the other with A&C.

It's ****ing insane :pac:

thelad95

Karl Stein wrote: »

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.





Socrates (469–399 B.C.)

I was going to post that your father probably said that, and your fathers father, until I copped it

Technology hasn't ruined kids per se, but easy access to porn is a worry. Sites like PornHub should require a subscription of some sort which would be enough on it's own to make most kids not bother as they're hardly going to ask for their parents card. I also find it sad to see my five year old cousin sitting inside on his own iPad playing games when the sun is shining outside. Go out and play Hide and Seek or catch for Christ sake.

This may sound a bit stupid now but when I was younger, say 9,10,11 I'd entertain myself for a whole afternoon by turning my backyard into Croke Park or Lansdowne Road and play an imaginary game of football or soccer with myself. I'd be Colm Cooper or Robbie Keane scoring the winning point or goal by kicking the ball over or under a gate from an impossible angle. I just don't think children have that level of innocence or innovation to do that anymore.

Mister Vain

Aye things were better when we used jumpers for goal posts. Fifa on the Playbox just aint the same.

paddydriver

Trigger Happy wrote: »

My dad used to say the same thing to me in the 80s.
For fck sake, he had to piss on his feet to keep them warm in Monaghan in the 30s.....how could those have been better days?

Funny that.. My Dad was growing up in Monaghan in the 30's too and used to tell me how their p!ss would freeze before it hit the ground, let alone get as far as warming his feet:P

lulu1

The Backwards Man wrote: »

When I was a kid I used to be dragged to the bog when I would rather lie in the house watching The Dukes Of Hazzard and The Fall Guy.

Nowadays you'd have me drag me out of the bog.

Yea but when you were a kid you were doing it for someone else now you are doing it for yourself

I see kids playing outside. And I hear overprivileged adults complaining about the noise of them playing. If kids play indoors, people complain about sedentary kids. If kids play outdoors, people complain about noisy kids. If kids are polite people complain about them being precocious, if kids are rude they aren't getting enough slaps. Basically, kids can do no right.

Mister Vain

A lot of parents are afraid to let their kids go out now though. Back in my day we used to roam wild and free till all hours and we'd have a savage appetite by the time we got home.

lulu1

i think kids depend far too much on tecnology even for homework instead of thinking out a problem they will run and google it. As for i phones some of these days it is going to go through the window.

Mister Vain

Mister Vain wrote: »

A lot of parents are afraid to let their kids go out now though. Back in my day we used to roam wild and free till all hours and we'd have a savage appetite by the time we got home.

True, but people were more tolerant of kids then. Now people complain if a baby cries on a bus or as I witnessed last week, kids kick a ball around a park and make kid noises.

Paranoia and moral panic about paedophiles and abductions as promoted by sensationalist press and 24 hour news channels trying to fill air time doesn't help either.

SweetChaos

Better than sending them down mines or up chimneys I suppose

Mister Vain

Candie wrote: »

True, but people were more tolerant of kids then. Now people complain if a baby cries on a bus or as I witnessed last week, kids kick a ball around a park and make kid noises.

Paranoia and moral panic about paedophiles and abductions as promoted by sensationalist press and 24 hour news channels trying to fill air time doesn't help either.

I think there was always people who were intolerant when it came to kids.

The paedophile hysteria is a big problem now alright.

Pumpkinseeds

There needs to be a better balance. Letting kids spend so much time indoors isn't healthy. I was a 70's kid and we spent a lot of time outdoors. Today's generation are the 'me generation', often narcissistic and with poor social skills. They've never known life without mobile phones, ipods, computers and general high tech gadgets. You know things are bad when heart disease in teens is becoming an issue.

Eutow

DColeman wrote: »

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

Really? Who would this be then? Rihanna, McBusted, One Direction, the latest Cowell cr@p? Pure sh!t The only thing from this load of rubbish you have come out with that makes sense is that kids have it far easier these days - but of course what I'm thinking is more than likely completely different from your thoughts - in that it is easier to search and find new music these days thanks to youtube, spotify and sound cloud. Back before the internet you used to have to watch Top of the Pops, MTV, or leave the radio on and tape stuff.

Mister Vain

Mister Vain wrote: »

I think there was always people who were intolerant when it came to kids.

The paedophile hysteria is a big problem now alright.

Gotta fill that airtime and compete against the plethora of news press, and there's nothing Joe Public likes more than to be terrified of something. Muslims, interest rates, paedophiles, global warming. All the good stuff.

Just to add to that, I think younger adults have a fair sense of entitlement that older generations didn't have, and that tolerance levels have really bottomed out when it comes to many things. Older people, children, any kind of minor deprivation or discomfort, from what I know from my job and what I hear anecdotally, people were much more stoic about minor infringements on their personal comfort in previous generations. Now people do their best to avoid sharing a double seat on public transport, and believe even in parks that the sound of children playing is an unacceptable infringement on their comfort.

mrsbyrne

DColeman wrote: »

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

Of coruse. Bowie singing Life on Mars is like an advertising jingle beside Smiley Cyrus screaming about a wrecking ball.

o1s1n

Candie wrote: »

Now people do their best to avoid sharing a double seat on public transport, and believe even in parks that the sound of children playing is an unacceptable infringement on their comfort.

Ah I dunno, I think there's a lot of rose tinted glasses wearing going on there too.

Kids annoy adults, they always have. It's just the way things are. I can remember having fierce trouble with some of our more elderly neighbours when I was a kid by simply playing football in a field beside our estate.

As for sharing seats on public transport, there's a 1 seat distance rule. All commuters with manners and respect for their fellow commuters know this :pac:

Venus In Furs

My mother always likes to talk about how there would be frost INSIDE the windows, and they collected rainwater for a bath.

The stuff about kids spending too much time on the couch has been talked about since the advent of TV/computer games. There are people in their 20s now, who would have been the subject of the very same discourse in the 1990s/2000s, that talk about the good old days.

That said, the concern probably gets more prevalent with each generation.

whatdoicare

My childhood was **** in the 80's, I suffered from extreme shyness and found it very difficult to make friends and I was bullied.
I was incredibly lonely. People tended to and still do talk over me.

If I had like kids today have id have been so happy, a whole world open to me with different people who understand where I'm coming from, there's far more support for people online than there is in the real world.

When I was a kid my world was so small and isolated, I'm very glad it wont be like that for my kids! I wouldn't go back to my childhood, no way!

Jamsiek

DColeman wrote: »

21st century music is far superior to 20th century music, particularly pop, kids have it far far better these days. Much better to be a 21st century kid than a 20th century one, which by in large completely sucked.

Seriously think about what you said there and have a word with yourself.

Littlekittylou

chops018 wrote: »

Were kids really better off without Xboxes, Playstations and iPhones etc?

Going outside on a summers day and not coming home until dark and you couldn't contact them.

Kids being properly punished if they did something wrong.

Basically do you think technology has ruined childhoods for kids like you hear so many people saying these days?

I think it's good that we are developing but maybe it does impact a little too much on kids lives, but hey, we have to change right?

What you guys think?

I have quit twitter now need to quit boards and FB. Or even just twice a week. It's a time vacuum! I was good this week though and got out a bit.

I don't watch TV at all though. Nor play video games. I rarely watch films. So the net is the only tech vice. I read quite a bit. But i do need to rein it in a bit. I find unless I close stuff I end up coming back to it though. The hassle of doing another email puts me off for a bit.

I wish you could BAN YOURSELF for a week or something. They should have that.

I spoke to a friend who said he is the same only with TV. He has to take a month of just banning it totally.

philstar

whatdoicare wrote: »

My childhood was **** in the 80's, I suffered from extreme shyness and found it very difficult to make friends and I was bullied.
I was incredibly lonely. People tended to and still do talk over me.

If I had like kids today have id have been so happy, a whole world open to me with different people who understand where I'm coming from, there's far more support for people online than there is in the real world.

When I was a kid my world was so small and isolated, I'm very glad it wont be like that for my kids! I wouldn't go back to my childhood, no way!

+ 1

had a similar childhood growing up in rural ireland, if the internet was around back then maybe i wouldn't have felt so isolated.....there's pros and cons to modern life i suppose

harry Bailey esq

Back when an ecstasy tablet cost more than a round of drinks.Now they cost less than a pint of bulmers,which back then was a favourite of tramps,ner do wells and teenagers due to its cheapness.Now its probably the most expensive pint in most places.Good ole days indeed

tomwaterford

Littlekittylou wrote: »

I have quit twitter now need to quit boards and FB. Or even just twice a week. It's a time vacuum! I was good this week though and got out a bit.

I don't watch TV at all though. Nor play video games. I rarely watch films. So the net is the only tech vice. I read quite a bit. But i do need to rein it in a bit. I find unless I close stuff I end up coming back to it though. The hassle of doing another email puts me off for a bit.

I wish you could BAN YOURSELF for a week or something. They should have that.

I spoke to a friend who said he is the same only with TV. He has to take a month of just banning it totally.

AFAIK.....they used do that before.....not sure who you to PM though