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Relocation to Galway with children

  • 16-01-2015 12:57am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭


    Hello everyone,

    We are considering relocation to Galway from the southern UK (expats here as well). I found this little nice forum, so I thought I'd ask here. I've done a bit of homework and read a couple of threads here, but anyway I've got a couple of questions.

    Just a bit of a background, we are family of three, me, my wife and our 3 year old daughter.

    First of all, what area would you recommend to live in? We prefer safe area with some greenery, good public transport connection and good pre-schools & schools around. Some shopping options near would be good as well.

    Second, what's the healthcare cost? Private medical insurance required?
    I hear some complaints about HSE stating NHS is better. I consider NHS to be sub-standard (as compared to continental healthcare systems), so if HSE is worse than that, it raises some serious concerns.

    Lastly, how's the weather in Galway, is it tolerable for a continental person? I hear it rains there all the time.

    Thanks a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭roytheboyo


    Hey OP,
    Galway is a great place to live, personally I prefer West city, salthill/knocknacarra, pretty well serviced with buses etc, decent schools (but can be difficult to get into, so look into it early).
    cost of private health insurance I would estimate at 1500- 2k per year, what this buys you is the opportunity to jump queues for tests etc. Actual health care system (once you get in) is decent, although I'm sure someone will be on just after me saying it's 3rd world.
    galway has a great buzz, lots of festivals, good feel, is a pretty safe place to raise kids, big enough to have good services buy not really a city feel, I love the place (not originally from galway).
    You might want to consider (depending on work etc) living in a town/village in County Galway, lots of them seem good to me, or maybe somewhere like oranmore which has a nice feel and 15 mins from city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭jkforde


    op, have you ever visited Galway? might be a good idea to come over and hire a car/bike for a day and just get a vibe for the place... lots of pros and cons about this town but overall I wouldn't live anywhere else, even taking into account the bloody weather! (the reason for notorious Galway grey weather is that we're right bang in the middle of the west coast so we're always on the edge of somewhere else's worse weather!... that's me pet theory anyhow)

    on the topic of healthcare, I'm actually in hospital at the moment for an acute infection via a GP referral into the public system and I'm receiving good rapid care.. can't fault it so far.

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Paddyfield


    I pretty much agree with most of the above. I live in Knocknacarra which is 2km from Salthill and 5km from city. Busses are frequent and efficient. Getting into a primary school wasn't a bother for my kids but I believe that secondary schools are tougher to get into.


    One of kids was was critically ill when he was born and spent 4 months in neonatal intensive care. His life was in the hands of some outstanding medical professionals who beat the odds. He survived and thrived. He is 8 now. My missus was also very sick at the time and spent a week in intensive care. Both received world class care through the HSE. Never ever underestimate the Irish health system. It ain't perfect but it's damn good when needed.

    Enjoy Galway. When the weather is crap, it's very crap. But when it's not crap, we celebrate it. When it's beautiful, we stay indoors and give out about the heat. ;0)


    FINALLY..... Where are you from originally and where do you live now? If you are originally from Westport and are currently living in Southampton, then you will blend in quickly. If you are originally from Longford and are currently residing in Milton Keynes, then Galway will overwhelm you.

    Failte abhaile


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    roytheboyo wrote: »
    Hey OP,
    Galway is a great place to live, personally I prefer West city, salthill/knocknacarra, pretty well serviced with buses etc, decent schools (but can be difficult to get into, so look into it early).
    Thanks for the suggestions. I will likely be working in Galway Technology Park, so I would appreciate something close to there. West city, Salthill and Knocknacarra all look nice, but are on the opposite side of the city.
    roytheboyo wrote: »
    cost of private health insurance I would estimate at 1500- 2k per year, what this buys you is the opportunity to jump queues for tests etc. Actual health care system (once you get in) is decent, although I'm sure someone will be on just after me saying it's 3rd world.
    Is the figure for three persons (2 adults & 1 child) or just one person? It's quite a lot. Do you have to pay any consultations or anything on top of that? How much would I pay if I didn't have private insurance?
    roytheboyo wrote: »
    You might want to consider (depending on work etc) living in a town/village in County Galway, lots of them seem good to me, or maybe somewhere like oranmore which has a nice feel and 15 mins from city.
    Oranmore is looks too rural to me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    jkforde wrote: »
    op, have you ever visited Galway?
    Not really, never been to Ireland :)
    might be a good idea to come over and hire a car/bike for a day and just get a vibe for the place...
    Yeah, a good idea, but I might be getting a job offer soon with no much time do decide, so not sure it's feasible.
    lots of pros and cons about this town but overall I wouldn't live anywhere else, even taking into account the bloody weather! (the reason for notorious Galway grey weather is that we're right bang in the middle of the west coast so we're always on the edge of somewhere else's worse weather!... that's me pet theory anyhow)
    It's just the proximity of the Atlantic and all the weather systems coming from there, which bing straight into Irish West coast as a first thing. Therefore the rainfail. I'm from a city that has nearly 25% annual rainfall of Galway. I do suffer in the UK which has about twice as much as my home city, but still half of that of Galway. So don't know really what to think.
    on the topic of healthcare, I'm actually in hospital at the moment for an acute infection via a GP referral into the public system and I'm receiving good rapid care.. can't fault it so far.
    Best of luck, I hope you get well soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    OP if you are going to come you do need to visit the city first before you make the move. I to would recommend the Salthill/Knocknacarra area. It has most of the primary and secondary schools in the city. Living in Salthill you are on the doorstep of the most popular walking area in the city right beside the sea.

    It is also worth remembering the Galway in a University city and has a young vibrant city atmosphere about it. With the Unversity it also helps to attract multinational companies to the city.

    You need private health insurance on top of that you will pay consultants fees. If you dont have private health insurance you will go onto a waiting list wish could take months or years (at worst).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Renmore would be a nice place on the east of the city. As for rain I'm afraid we get about 2 out of 3 days rain on average per year. A&E is crowded but once you get in the care is good. It is a good place to live though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Paddyfield wrote: »
    I pretty much agree with most of the above. I live in Knocknacarra which is 2km from Salthill and 5km from city. Busses are frequent and efficient. Getting into a primary school wasn't a bother for my kids but I believe that secondary schools are tougher to get into.
    Are the schools used to foreigners at all? I'd say foreigners are not that common, are they? Also, my cocern is, I hear the schools are Catholic and teach catechism and stuff like that. Myself raised in liberal catholic family, but I'm not really religious and don't my child to be pushed into a certain religion (any really).
    One of kids was was critically ill when he was born and spent 4 months in neonatal intensive care. His life was in the hands of some outstanding medical professionals who beat the odds. He survived and thrived. He is 8 now. My missus was also very sick at the time and spent a week in intensive care. Both received world class care through the HSE. Never ever underestimate the Irish health system. It ain't perfect but it's damn good when needed.
    Right, I guess it's case by case. It's difficult to generalise.
    Enjoy Galway. When the weather is crap, it's very crap. But when it's not crap, we celebrate it. When it's beautiful, we stay indoors and give out about the heat. ;0)
    Interesting :)

    FINALLY..... Where are you from originally and where do you live now? If you are originally from Westport and are currently living in Southampton, then you will blend in quickly. If you are originally from Longford and are currently residing in Milton Keynes, then Galway will overwhelm you.
    I ain't no Irish, neither my wife :)
    Failte abhaile
    Cheers


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    salthill knocknacarra renmore, some areas of ballybrit

    barna and oranmore are lovely towns.

    avoid rahoon and areas of ballybane

    edit: it rains 360 out of 365 days in galway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    JillyQ wrote: »
    OP if you are going to come you do need to visit the city first before you make the move.
    Will try...
    I to would recommend the Salthill/Knocknacarra area. It has most of the primary and secondary schools in the city. Living in Salthill you are on the doorstep of the most popular walking area in the city right beside the sea.
    I see. I've been looking in those areas in Google maps and can't see any playgrounds for kids, like we have here in residential areas in the UK. We live in a small city of around 30 thousand and we have got plenty of these here. Maybe I was not looking at a wrong place?
    You need private health insurance on top of that you will pay consultants fees. If you dont have private health insurance you will go onto a waiting list wish could take months or years (at worst).
    Oh dear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Roquentin wrote: »
    salthill knocknacarra renmore, some areas of ballybrit

    barna and oranmore are lovely towns.

    avoid rahoon and areas of ballybane

    Thanks, that's helpful.
    edit: it rains 360 out of 365 days in galway
    I hope you don't have problem with mould.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Renmore would be a nice place on the east of the city.
    Cheers, will check it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    Assuming you have a job offer... you should really live on the same side of the river, as the traffic can be mental.
    Most industrial estates etc are on the east side of the city. Parkmore, Ballybrit, Mervue, Liosban. Good bus service to city from there.
    Commuter towns: Oranmore, Athenry. OK bus services. Moycullen, Spiddal, Barna: less so.
    Oranmore nearly counts as a suburb these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    Assuming you have a job offer... you should really live on the same side of the river, as the traffic can be mental.
    Most industrial estates etc are on the east side of the city. Parkmore, Ballybrit, Mervue, Liosban. Good bus service to city from there.
    Commuter towns: Oranmore, Athenry. OK bus services. Moycullen, Spiddal, Barna: less so.
    Oranmore nearly counts as a suburb these days.

    +1. Oranmore & Claregalway are very good areas to live in. Mostly quiet. Certainly would not be as "noisy" as the west of the city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I'd suggest going for it. Ireland is class, great way of life and seemingly an ever increasing population coming over from the UK.

    Ireland is probably a bit more multi-cultural than you might think. Somebody who has never been would likely think it's a small Island with only Island people but it's not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Paddyfield


    My kids go to a Catholic school but there are many faiths in the school and also non faith. There are no clergy teaching in the school. The schools welcomes all and accommodates all religions. My daughter has friends from many countries. The school holds an 'international day' every year to illustrate the various nationalities in the school. There are dozens including Indian, British, Pakistani, American, Nigerian, Spanish, etc There are non religion schools in Galway but perhaps another poster will have information about them.

    This is my daughter's school... www.scoilide.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    Assuming you have a job offer... you should really live on the same side of the river, as the traffic can be mental.
    Most industrial estates etc are on the east side of the city. Parkmore, Ballybrit, Mervue, Liosban. Good bus service to city from there.
    Commuter towns: Oranmore, Athenry. OK bus services. Moycullen, Spiddal, Barna: less so.
    Oranmore nearly counts as a suburb these days.

    The bold bit +100000.

    I'd describe the bus service from Oranmore and Athenry as barely adequate - and (apart from possibly one Athenry bus) it doesn't go to the industrial estates.

    OP, one option that no one has mentioned is Roscam and some estates in Doughiska (Coil Tire and An Fiodan come to mind, there are other good ones too).

    These are close to Merlin Woods and a fantastic park and award winning play ground. There's the best bus service in town - which goes out to Galway Tech. Park and back in every 15 minutes. Primary and secondary schools are brand new and getting excellent reputations so far - the primary had it's first Whole School Inspection a while back and it went well. The primary is catholic, but there are lots of non-Catholic kids so they have a very inclusive programme. There are two supermarkets (one discount, one expensive) and a shopping centre, a health centre, a family resource centre, sports clubs etc.

    Good ethnic mix in the area, and strong community spirit.



    I think it's unfair to say it rains 360 out of 365 days ... shure'n last year it only got to 355 days! Seriously, it rains a lot - but when it does, it's not normally for the whole day. Carry an umbrella, adopt the attitude of "do it anyway" and you will see some nice weather. But you will want to go somewhere sunny for a holiday each year.

    Galway overall has been a port and trading town since the 1500s, so is far more welcoming of various cultures than many places. Lots of multi-nationals have European-language contact centres here, so there are some quite large ex-pat communities.

    Health system: if you get very sick, and get the right doctor, it can be fantastic. As others have said, they've had excellent care. But there have been cases where someone with the wrong doctor and team, and things were somewhere between bad and tragic. However if you're that sick, health-insurance won't necessarily help - eg the private A&E in Galway isn't open at night and doesn't cater for serious trauma. If you're only a bit sick (ie not so urgent) it might not be so good - and this is where health insurance may come in handy. But don't bother with it for your children, because we don't have any private hospitals for children anyway. That said, if you're a citizen of another EU country and qualify for an EU health card from there, you may not need it. Perhaps enquire among other people from your country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭jkforde


    Roquentin wrote: »
    avoid rahoon and areas of ballybane

    ignorant and plain wrong advice... rahoon is a huge diverse area so open your eyes and opinion... I live in Rahoon but people choose to refer to west and south Rahoon as Knocknacarra and Taylor's Hill but that's sadly rooted in childish snobbery.... Rahoon is a great place to live

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️

    "Since I no longer expect anything from mankind except madness, meanness, and mendacity; egotism, cowardice, and self-delusion, I have stopped being a misanthrope." Irving Layton



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    jkforde wrote: »
    ignorant and plain wrong advice... rahoon is a huge diverse area so open your eyes and opinion... I live in Rahoon but people choose to refer to west and south Rahoon as Knocknacarra and Taylor's Hill but that's sadly rooted in childish snobbery.... Rahoon is a great place to live

    sure it is


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 bluecorp


    McGiver wrote: »
    Are the schools used to foreigners at all? I'd say foreigners are not that common, are they? Also, my cocern is, I hear the schools are Catholic and teach catechism and stuff like that. Myself raised in liberal catholic family, but I'm not really religious and don't my child to be pushed into a certain religion (any really).
    I had to smile at that. You might be surprised to hear that it's actually quite the opposite. Foreigners, we prefer to say 'non national' are very common in Ireland and Galway in particular. At times walking around town you'd think you were anywhere but a small city on the west coast of Ireland when you hear all the languages spoken. The schools are very used to kids from all over. Indeed in some areas, Irish kids are the minority. You don't say where you're from originally but you'll probably find some of you countrymen already living here.

    Galway is a very open and cosmopolitan city. If you watch the St Patrick's Day parade in Galway, it's more like a celebration of flags of the world than Irishness.

    Yes most of the schools are Catholic however they are long used to children of other faiths. I even once saw two Muslim girls wearing the uniform of the local Catholic convent school! Most Irish now are in fact liberal Catholics. My sons school is Jesuit in character but nothing is pushed on them so far. There are non Catholic schools but are often popular and hard to get into. Plus what school you choose is dependant on where you settle. Also some of the best schools teach entirely through the Irish language. That's not the problem you might think because most kids start with no Irish at all. Yours I see is three so that won't be a problem because he or she will start at the same level as all the others.

    In terms of health insurance. Check the job offer. Many companies, particularly multinationals offer a subsidised health insurance package. Galway is well equipped with hospitals. The main regional hospital is here, plus two private hospitals.

    As for where to live, well I assume you're going to rent. There is a lot of demand for rental properties, party due to the large number of foreigners living here. So you'll need to look at getting a place quickly. Once settled though you can look around for something better. You'll find people you work with will advise from their own experiences.

    There are no real bad areas in Galway. It's generally an affluent city which is partly the reason for the chronic traffic. Oranmore is just outside the city and has the advantage of buses and a train station.

    Weatherwise to be honest, in my experience it's not as rainy as people say. In fact statistically it's the same as most of the rest of the country. But once you go west into Connemara it's gets wetter. There is a lot of exaggeration about it though. Heavy rain is the exception and most commonly it's showery and it rarely lasts all day. We do get treated to a couple of Atlantic storms each year.

    Because it's close to the sea it doesn't get that cold and rarely do we see snow. On the other hand it rarely gets too hot in Summer. I'm not from Galway originally and my experience is that the weather is fairly benign and the locals really tend to exaggerate how bad it is. Today is a case in point. A couple of showers early on left the ground wet but there's lots of blue skies and the temperature is well above freezing. I even saw people sitting outside a café, wearing coats of course. Typical for Galway in the Winter.

    I rarely meet anyone, foreign or not who regret living in Galway. Indeed many Irish people when they find out where I live tell me that they would love to move here. That says something.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    bonzodog2 wrote: »
    Assuming you have a job offer... you should really live on the same side of the river, as the traffic can be mental.
    Most industrial estates etc are on the east side of the city. Parkmore, Ballybrit, Mervue, Liosban. Good bus service to city from there.
    Commuter towns: Oranmore, Athenry. OK bus services. Moycullen, Spiddal, Barna: less so.
    Oranmore nearly counts as a suburb these days.
    Thanks for the suggestions, what a nice list! I'd kind of figured it out that I'd need to stay on the east side. The western seems better/nicer to me though, but I won't consider it for now. I've ruled out the commuter towns for the time being. Feels too rural and I kind of fear we'd be the only foreign blowins in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    +1. Oranmore & Claregalway are very good areas to live in. Mostly quiet. Certainly would not be as "noisy" as the west of the city.
    I'm not a village person really, but I'll check these out once I'm settled, cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    Op have you ever been to ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    I'd suggest going for it. Ireland is class, great way of life and seemingly an ever increasing population coming over from the UK.
    I'm quite afraid to be honest. Never been to Ireland. Potential cons what I can see straight away upon doing my shallow research are: the healthcare system (some scary reports, need to pay private insurance), small market therefore small competition leading to not so big range of services/goods offered (compared to, say, the UK), alcoholism seems to be a problem (i.e. absence of social life if you are not a drinker or even a drunkard :D), and of course the weather.
    Couple of pros: nearly no water charge, no council tax, beatiful countryside/mountains/lakes, friendlier and more family oriented people (I hope :), compared with the UK), cheap Guiness?? :)
    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Ireland is probably a bit more multi-cultural than you might think. Somebody who has never been would likely think it's a small Island with only Island people but it's not.
    That's exactly what I'd imagine :D I mean, I'd expect Dublin (and maybe Cork) to be a bit multi-cultural, but that's it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    JillyQ wrote: »
    Op have you ever been to ireland?
    Nope, but I hear the people are friendly. I've got an Irish colleague though. But I guess one person is too small sample size to draw any conclusions. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Paddyfield wrote: »
    My kids go to a Catholic school but there are many faiths in the school and also non faith. There are no clergy teaching in the school. The schools welcomes all and accommodates all religions. My daughter has friends from many countries. The school holds an 'international day' every year to illustrate the various nationalities in the school. There are dozens including Indian, British, Pakistani, American, Nigerian, Spanish, etc There are non religion schools in Galway but perhaps another poster will have information about them.

    This is my daughter's school...
    OK, that sounds good then. Thanks, I'll check the website.
    What is the system regarding the school placement, do you need to actually live in the catchment area of a schoold to get a place for your kids in a particular school?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    The bold bit +100000.
    I'd describe the bus service from Oranmore and Athenry as barely adequate - and (apart from possibly one Athenry bus) it doesn't go to the industrial estates.

    I've noticed that too, there is ONE stop in the whole of Oranmore, at least the Google Maps says so and I couldn't really find the bus in Street View...would have to drive from there daily, I'd rather avoid that (I'm a terrible driver)
    OP, one option that no one has mentioned is Roscam and some estates in Doughiska (Coil Tire and An Fiodan come to mind, there are other good ones too).


    These are close to Merlin Woods and a fantastic park and award winning play ground. There's the best bus service in town - which goes out to Galway Tech. Park and back in every 15 minutes. Primary and secondary schools are brand new and getting excellent reputations so far - the primary had it's first Whole School Inspection a while back and it went well. The primary is catholic, but there are lots of non-Catholic kids so they have a very inclusive programme. There are two supermarkets (one discount, one expensive) and a shopping centre, a health centre, a family resource centre, sports clubs etc.

    Good ethnic mix in the area, and strong community spirit.
    Cheers, will check these out, this sounds good, also very near to the Tech Park. I could even cycle. Which leads me to my another question regarding cycling in the area in general. I didn't see any cycle tracks in Google Maps nearly anywhere in whole of Galway, is anything place at all? I've seen the Cycle Hire scheme, but that's a separate topic.
    I think it's unfair to say it rains 360 out of 365 days ... shure'n last year it only got to 355 days! Seriously, it rains a lot - but when it does, it's not normally for the whole day. Carry an umbrella, adopt the attitude of "do it anyway" and you will see some nice weather. But you will want to go somewhere sunny for a holiday each year.
    That's what I'd expect, something akin to northwestern England.
    Galway overall has been a port and trading town since the 1500s, so is far more welcoming of various cultures than many places. Lots of multi-nationals have European-language contact centres here, so there are some quite large ex-pat communities.
    I see.
    Health system: if you get very sick, and get the right doctor, it can be fantastic. As others have said, they've had excellent care. But there have been cases where someone with the wrong doctor and team, and things were somewhere between bad and tragic. However if you're that sick, health-insurance won't necessarily help - eg the private A&E in Galway isn't open at night and doesn't cater for serious trauma. If you're only a bit sick (ie not so urgent) it might not be so good - and this is where health insurance may come in handy. But don't bother with it for your children, because we don't have any private hospitals for children anyway. That said, if you're a citizen of another EU country and qualify for an EU health card from there, you may not need it. Perhaps enquire among other people from your country.
    Right, so no insurance for children. We've all got a EU healthcards...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    Op if you don't have health insurance here you will go on to a waiting list for the public hospitals. Regardless of whether you have the European health card. That Is if you need to see a consultant. If you are talking about a gp its €50 a go unless you have the medical card issued by the department of social welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    As someone also with a 3 year old daughter who has moved around for my partner's career, I insist you come to Ireland and check it out for yourself. I have moved to places that I researched but had never been to and it didn't turn out well. It just wasn't a good fit for us, no matter how good it might be on paper or how wonderful people tell you it is.

    Galway is wonderful though, thought I would throw that in there. But do visit these places suggested for yourself, especially with your wife.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    PLL wrote: »
    As someone also with a 3 year old daughter who has moved around for my partner's career, I insist you come to Ireland and check it out for yourself. I have moved to places that I researched but had never been to and it didn't turn out well. It just wasn't a good fit for us, no matter how good it might be on paper or how wonderful people tell you it is.
    I agree, we've had a similar experience when we moved to the UK.
    PLL wrote: »
    Galway is wonderful though, thought I would throw that in there. But do visit these places suggested for yourself, especially with your wife.
    Sure :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    JillyQ wrote: »
    Op if you don't have health insurance here you will go on to a waiting list for the public hospitals. Regardless of whether you have the European health card. That Is if you need to see a consultant. If you are talking about a gp its €50 a go unless you have the medical card issued by the department of social welfare.
    50 quid cash omg that's serious. Is that regardless whether you've got a private insurance or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    bluecorp wrote: »
    I had to smile at that. You might be surprised to hear that it's actually quite the opposite. Foreigners, we prefer to say 'non national' are very common in Ireland and Galway in particular. At times walking around town you'd think you were anywhere but a small city on the west coast of Ireland when you hear all the languages spoken. The schools are very used to kids from all over. Indeed in some areas, Irish kids are the minority. You don't say where you're from originally but you'll probably find some of you countrymen already living here.
    We are from the Czech Republic and India respectively.
    bluecorp wrote: »
    Galway is a very open and cosmopolitan city. If you watch the St Patrick's Day parade in Galway, it's more like a celebration of flags of the world than Irishness.
    Interesting.
    bluecorp wrote: »
    Yes most of the schools are Catholic however they are long used to children of other faiths. I even once saw two Muslim girls wearing the uniform of the local Catholic convent school! Most Irish now are in fact liberal Catholics. My sons school is Jesuit in character but nothing is pushed on them so far. There are non Catholic schools but are often popular and hard to get into. Plus what school you choose is dependant on where you settle. Also some of the best schools teach entirely through the Irish language. That's not the problem you might think because most kids start with no Irish at all. Yours I see is three so that won't be a problem because he or she will start at the same level as all the others.
    Fair enough then and thanks, this helps.
    bluecorp wrote: »
    In terms of health insurance. Check the job offer. Many companies, particularly multinationals offer a subsidised health insurance package. Galway is well equipped with hospitals. The main regional hospital is here, plus two private hospitals.
    I think the health insurance was in the package, but I don't have details on that. What discount would I typically get?
    bluecorp wrote: »
    As for where to live, well I assume you're going to rent. There is a lot of demand for rental properties, party due to the large number of foreigners living here. So you'll need to look at getting a place quickly. Once settled though you can look around for something better. You'll find people you work with will advise from their own experiences.
    Yeah, renting. Which brings me to another point, I've seen nearly all rental properties are furnished, quite opposite the situation in the UK and also continental Europe I'd say. We've got some furniture obviously, so I'm thinking how to go about this...
    bluecorp wrote: »
    Weatherwise to be honest, in my experience it's not as rainy as people say. In fact statistically it's the same as most of the rest of the country. But once you go west into Connemara it's gets wetter. There is a lot of exaggeration about it though. Heavy rain is the exception and most commonly it's showery and it rarely lasts all day. We do get treated to a couple of Atlantic storms each year.
    I hear Irish complain a lot :) But anyway the annual rainfall is double compared to where we live right now :(
    bluecorp wrote: »
    I even saw people sitting outside a café, wearing coats of course. Typical for Galway in the Winter.
    Wicked :)
    bluecorp wrote: »
    I rarely meet anyone, foreign or not who regret living in Galway. Indeed many Irish people when they find out where I live tell me that they would love to move here. That says something.
    Yeah, it does, indeed. And it's interesting considering it's such a small city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    McGiver wrote: »
    50 quid cash omg that's serious. Is that regardless whether you've got a private insurance or not?

    yes for the gp & €100 per visit to the A&E


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    OP, living on the same side of the bridge may not matter depending on what time you will start work, ie cross the bridge. It's a lazy suggestion. I cross it before rush hours with no problems in the morning and evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭GalwayGrrrrrl


    I moved to Galway from my home in the London area ten years ago and will never go back to uk. I LOVE galway. There is always something to do, especially if you like music/arts/theatre type things. There are loads of sports clubs too. The seafront at Salthill is great for walks, kids play time etc all year around. Yes, it rains most days but hardly ever all day. If you want to avoid catholic schools go for an Educate Together school which has no religious ethos (but teaches and celebrates all religions). These schools fill up fast so put names down as soon as you arrive. The tax/health system is quite different to uk- there is a lot of "pay first, claim back later" to do eg for health bills etc. You do pay cash for each GP visit (even for babies) but you can be seen immediately (same day). Some health costs can be claimed back through your tax claim at end of year (with or without insurance).
    Good luck with your move.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    JillyQ wrote: »
    €100 per visit to the A&E

    Only if you go without a GP referral and don't need to be admitted.

    If you do the right thing and take non serious complaints to the gp first, then A&E is free.

    And depending on the arrangements in the OP's home country and thei status, care here can be free.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 bluecorp


    Ok Czech and Indian you'll fit right in. East Europeans like Poles, Lithuanians etc are very common, and yes I know being Czech are not the same but but being 'middle European is normal in Galway these days. Plus Indians are far from rare.

    I can't say what discount you get as it varies with the company but the American company I worked for at one stage made it very attractive.

    When it comes to renting being furnished is the norm. As is happens we rent a house and supplied the furniture etc. But you can always ask. For one of our tenants we stored our stuff and they supplied their own furniture. But no our tenants are very happy now so don't ask. It's a landlords market anyway.

    I do think that from the replies it's clear people like living here. I'm from Dublin and honestly I would like to go back there but it's not because Galway is a bad place. It's just that I love my home town. But I also love Galway and I can't think of a bad thing about the place.

    To give you an example. Tomorrow me and my wife who is a Galway native, it's a Sunday and we think we need to go somewhere for a drive. For once we'll be avoiding one of her numerous sisters. But we are spoiled for choice. One hour in any direction will take you to some extraordinary scenery. Connemara, the cliffs of Moher, Cong, etc.

    You can drive out of town for not very long and find yourself off the edge of the world.

    It's hard to explain, you have to see it.

    An English friend pointed out that he can't imagine a place where you can live out near an isolated beach, paying reasonable rent yet within twenty minutes of a city where there is plenty of work.

    That's why so many Brits live round here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    Only if you go without a GP referral and don't need to be admitted.

    If you do the right thing and take non serious complaints to the gp first, then A&E is free.

    And depending on the arrangements in the OP's home country and thei status, care here can be free.

    The only time i have been in there i was taken in by Ambulance after an accident and got the bill after it. Maybe thats not the right way to go to A & E.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    JillyQ wrote: »
    yes for the gp & €100 per visit to the A&E
    Shocking. I guess prescriptions are paid too. Sounds like Switzerland or Norway. How do retired or people with low income cope with this? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭JillyQ


    McGiver wrote: »
    Shocking. I guess prescriptions are paid too. Sounds like Switzerland or Norway. How do retired or people with low income cope with this? :(

    As far as i know you only pay €120 approx per month on prescriptions max the goverment pays the rest.

    Galway is a good place to live. Just dont come here expecting free health care etc. If you have an active and generally healthy lifestyle Galway would be a good fit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Only if you go without a GP referral and don't need to be admitted.

    If you do the right thing and take non serious complaints to the gp first, then A&E is free.

    And depending on the arrangements in the OP's home country and thei status, care here can be free.

    Good to know...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    I moved to Galway from my home in the London area ten years ago and will never go back to uk. I LOVE galway. There is always something to do, especially if you like music/arts/theatre type things. There are loads of sports clubs too. The seafront at Salthill is great for walks, kids play time etc all year around. Yes, it rains most days but hardly ever all day. If you want to avoid catholic schools go for an Educate Together school which has no religious ethos (but teaches and celebrates all religions). These schools fill up fast so put names down as soon as you arrive. The tax/health system is quite different to uk- there is a lot of "pay first, claim back later" to do eg for health bills etc. You do pay cash for each GP visit (even for babies) but you can be seen immediately (same day). Some health costs can be claimed back through your tax claim at end of year (with or without insurance).
    Good luck with your move.
    Cheers, many thanks for the school suggestion. Is it a private school or a public one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20 bluecorp


    McGiver wrote: »
    Shocking. I guess prescriptions are paid too. Sounds like Switzerland or Norway. How do retired or people with low income cope with this? :(
    After a huge row, even rich retired people get their prescriptions paid for. The government tried to make it based on income or means but they got slaughtered on that. So those of us with normal incomes have to pay but rich pensioners pay nothing.

    Shocking. I pay for all my prescriptions but a retired Doctor pays nothing. But people with limited income pays nothing or whatever minimum cost unless they have a medical cards
    Typical mad Irish logic. Low income people pay very little. Working people pay plenty but get better treatment.

    But I have to say it works out in favour of people on decent money. If you have health insurance any medical costs are tax deductible.

    People on low incomes just have to wait longer unless it's critical. My Mother was recently diagnosed with Cancer. No cost is involved, no issue with insurance. She has the best of treatment even though it's now palliative. She is being well looked after.

    She is getting the best of the treatment but there is nothing medicine can do. It's in these situations where you realise that our health service is not as bad as it's painted.

    No amount of health insurance would a save her but it could bankrupt us all in other countries. So don't exaggerate the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    bluecorp wrote: »
    Ok Czech and Indian you'll fit right in. East Europeans like Poles, Lithuanians etc are very common, and yes I know being Czech are not the same but but being 'middle European is normal in Galway these days. Plus Indians are far from rare.
    I'm happy that you mentioned the middle thing, as most Czechs will starting giving you a lecture when they hear someone calling them Eastern Europeans. It's a peculiar thing. As geography books say it's a country in Central Europe, Austria lies on more or less the same longitude and is rarely being called Eastern European country...here you go :)
    bluecorp wrote: »
    I can't say what discount you get as it varies with the company but the American company I worked for at one stage made it very attractive.
    I'll request more info regarding this.
    bluecorp wrote: »
    When it comes to renting being furnished is the norm. As is happens we rent a house and supplied the furniture etc. But you can always ask. For one of our tenants we stored our stuff and they supplied their own furniture. But no our tenants are very happy now so don't ask. It's a landlords market anyway.
    OK, will try to ask, but I'm kind of starting to think about an alternative scenario for our furniture.

    bluecorp wrote: »
    I do think that from the replies it's clear people like living here. I'm from Dublin and honestly I would like to go back there but it's not because Galway is a bad place. It's just that I love my home town. But I also love Galway and I can't think of a bad thing about the place.
    Yes, it's clear it must a nice place, I really appreciate all the answers and help. Home town is a home town, it will be always number one for me as well.
    bluecorp wrote: »
    To give you an example. Tomorrow me and my wife who is a Galway native, it's a Sunday and we think we need to go somewhere for a drive. For once we'll be avoiding one of her numerous sisters. But we are spoiled for choice. One hour in any direction will take you to some extraordinary scenery. Connemara, the cliffs of Moher, Cong, etc.

    You can drive out of town for not very long and find yourself off the edge of the world.
    I do find this very attractive, I enjoy walks by lakes, in forests and hiking too and Galway seems really well positioned for this...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    McGiver wrote: »
    I'm quite afraid to be honest. Never been to Ireland. Potential cons what I can see straight away upon doing my shallow research are: the healthcare system (some scary reports, need to pay private insurance), small market therefore small competition leading to not so big range of services/goods offered (compared to, say, the UK), alcoholism seems to be a problem (i.e. absence of social life if you are not a drinker or even a drunkard :D), and of course the weather.
    Couple of pros: nearly no water charge, no council tax, beatiful countryside/mountains/lakes, friendlier and more family oriented people (I hope :), compared with the UK), cheap Guiness?? :)


    That's exactly what I'd imagine :D I mean, I'd expect Dublin (and maybe Cork) to be a bit multi-cultural, but that's it.

    All of those concerns are not without base to be honest. The healthcare system is awful. Going to the GP is grand, it's just like anywhere else. I believe we actually have one of the highest infant mortality rates, so it can't be that bad, right? We're pretty good at vaccinating. I think cancer treatment is pretty good too for the most part. There's been mishandling of scans on a couple of occasions but I think for the most part it's good.

    If you have to go see a consultant about something, it's always a bad experience. Even when you get the help you need, it can be slow and unpleasant. There's some great surgeons and some pretty piss poor surgeons. I wouldn't want to have to rely on the healthcare system if I got very sick.

    Galway actually has a wide variety of restaurants and pubs...so there's competition there. We've also got many of the same chains that you guys have in the UK e.g. Boots, Smyths Toystore, JD Sports and all of that craic. Cost can be high for some things due to the high vat rate. Some of the taxes in Ireland are a joke but it's likely a lot cheaper in Galway than somewhere like Manchester and London

    Alcoholism is a very real problem but you don't have to deal with it, if you don't want to. Other than during festivals and events, you shouldn't see drunks stumbling around all that much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,292 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    If you have to go see a consultant about something, it's always a bad experience. Even when you get the help you need, it can be slow and unpleasant. There's some great surgeons and some pretty piss poor surgeons. I wouldn't want to have to rely on the healthcare system if I got very sick.


    That doesn't match my experience. I've had two consultant referrals since I've been here. Both timely enough given the condition. Both fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    I believe we actually have one of the highest infant mortality rates, so it can't be that bad, right?
    The infant mortality is not so good compared to most of the continental Europe (as per the latest OECD data), but it's better than that of the Netherlands, UK and Austria. I don't think this is a major issue.
    Wompa1 wrote: »
    If you have to go see a consultant about something, it's always a bad experience. Even when you get the help you need, it can be slow and unpleasant. There's some great surgeons and some pretty piss poor surgeons. I wouldn't want to have to rely on the healthcare system if I got very sick.
    We rarely go to a doctor and if we do, we go to a GP. But one never knows when one gets sick or has an accident.
    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Galway actually has a wide variety of restaurants and pubs...so there's competition there.
    Pub competition of course. :D
    Wompa1 wrote: »
    We've also got many of the same chains that you guys have in the UK e.g. Boots, Smyths Toystore, JD Sports and all of that craic. Cost can be high for some things due to the high vat rate. Some of the taxes in Ireland are a joke but it's likely a lot cheaper in Galway than somewhere like Manchester and London
    Didn't study taxes much, but joint taxation for couples is a big plus compared to the UK. There's no council tax like in the UK, but the private health insurance is pretty much the same, so no difference here. Food and utilities prices and seem to be more or less the same or a bit higher to me. Rental prices are definitely lower than where we live (at least 15%). Public transport (especially train) seem much lower thatn in the UK.
    Wompa1 wrote: »
    Alcoholism is a very real problem but you don't have to deal with it, if you don't want to. Other than during festivals and events, you shouldn't see drunks stumbling around all that much
    I read about this the other day on this forum and someone mentioned there that if you don't go to pub, it's not so easy to make friends, would you agree with that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    That doesn't match my experience. I've had two consultant referrals since I've been here. Both timely enough given the condition. Both fine.
    Healthcare is always hit and miss, in every country. You will always hear bad and good experiences in whatever country you go. Some doctors might be bogus, some cases might have issues , but some not, it's a matter of chance/luck to a great degree. Two referrals probably constitute a too small sample to draw any conclusions or see any patterns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭McGiver


    I was wondering how is Galway for families with children.

    We are thinking of moving here. We have a 3 year old very active daughter who likes outdoors and playgrounds.

    We've not visited Galway yet, so was wondering how are the playgrounds, are these ample? Are there activity centers for children under 5, such as children centers, swimming, music etc ?

    How many preschools are there? How much do you pay? I know it's too much to ask yet, but are there bilingual schools too?

    How is the public transport generally like?
    Thanks!


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't know much about your first questions so I will leave them for others to answer but what do you mean about bilingual schools?

    Almost all schools will teach through English, with Irish being taught as a new language to learn. AFAIK no other language will be taught. It will be obligatory for your child to learn Irish but she will be learning it alongside plenty of others who will be hearing it for the first time and whose parents haven't a word of Irish.

    There is an all Irish school http://gaelscoildara.scoilnet.ie/blog/ which would teach all subjects through Irish in Renmore on the east side of the city which has a nice new school building.

    90% of all primary schools in the country have a Catholic ethos, the other 10% are a mix of mostly other christian denominations or multi-denominational schools.


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