Terrorists to attack ireland!?

evo2000

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/paris-jihad-attacks-could-hit-4957807

Paper fear mongering or do you think it holds any weight?

After reading the article it annoys me that there are known terrorists holding irish passports 40 of them, the fact that you cant come to ireland via Ferry unchecked is another thing...

If whats said in the article is true ireland is ****ing pathetic, we know there are extremists holding irish passports and we do nothing about it, we know there are extremists in the country and do nothing about, if this is true we are a tragedy waiting to happen and it will be 100% our own fault for not having the balls to do something about it first!

Mena

Extremists with Irish passports? The IRA?

Too soon?

glued

Oh The Daily Mirror must have moved on from their million articles about GIANT KILLING DEATH SPIDERS...

Rag of a paper.

The Bould Rabbit

evo2000 wrote: »

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/paris-jihad-attacks-could-hit-4957807

Paper fear mongering or do you think it holds any weight?

After reading the article it annoys me that there are known terrorists holding irish passports 40 of them, the fact that you cant come to ireland via Ferry unchecked is another thing...

If whats said in the article is true ireland is ****ing pathetic, we know there are extremists holding irish passports and we do nothing about it, we know there are extremists in the country and do nothing about, if this is true we are a tragedy waiting to happen and it will be 100% our own fault for not having the balls to do something about it first!

How do you know we're not doing anything about it?
Are you privvy to Dept of Defence intelligence.

So a few known terrorists hold Irish passports. So bloody what?

Duckworth_Luas

glued wrote: »

Rag of a paper.

I see that a woman had a penis tattooed onto her shoulder.

How did the Irish Times let that scoop pass them by? I expect Tintin O'Foole's resignation by the morning.

anncoates

glued wrote: »

Oh The Daily Mirror must have moved on from their million articles about GIANT KILLING DEATH SPIDERS...

Rag of a paper.

It's a rag of a paper but the thrust of the article (that we do aid the American military in Shannon and that we're relatively vulnerable in terms of security resources ) is hardly hyperbolic.

The Backwards Man

The Mirror is a despicable excuse for a newspaper.

And there are a hell of a lot more than 40 terrorist Irish passport holders, but that's beside the point.

Scaremongering hyperbolic bollocks, as is nearly every other thread here these days. Some of ye need to grow up big time.

purplecow1977

They published an article like this yesterday. Clearly it didn't scaremonger enough so they are back with another.
Remember that the extremists aren't the majority.

anncoates

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And there are a hell of a lot more than 40 terrorist Irish passport holders

Most of them sit in parliament, local authorities or are 'community activists' now though.

Slicemeister

The indo are at it as well. "A source said" is the usual translation for "we made that bit up ourselves, see".

AboutaWeekAgo

Anyone else seeing a bit of a theme popping up in AH?

Donkey Oaty

They also have "Video: Watch Bill Gates drink a glass of purified poo".

I'm beginning to wonder if Western civilisation is worth saving.

The Backwards Man

anncoates wrote: »

Most of them sit in parliament, local authorities or are 'community activists' now though.

Yeah, and arguably waging more destruction than they ever did.

I suppose it's maybe a bit harsh blaming the papers in fairness, the stupid cnuts that believe the crap they write are as much to blame.

bodice ripper

unless they have plans to turn irish women into undead incubators, I think we have bigger problems

ChunkyLover54

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

They also have "Video: Watch Bill Gates drink a glass of purified poo".

Just giving the people what they want.

The Backwards Man

bodice ripper wrote: »

unless they have plans to turn irish women into undead incubators, I think we have bigger problems

Congratulations, you've just made yourself the next 'expert source' for the Mirror.

Paco Rodriguez

They are using Ireland to host terrorists until they can get transition to Syria because we are not as active as other EU countries in tackling them.
They are not going to rock the boat here as long as they have benefit.
But if we start publishing cartoons as some people here would like to see then maybe.

bodice ripper

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Congratulations, you've just made yourself the next 'expert source' for the Mirror.

I could use the money.

Mackas_view

Although I do believe security measures here are in need of reform. Firstly I wouldn't get too hyped up about what you read in The Mirror of all papers and secondly I most definitely would not be looking for Tom Clonans input.

Do we need to realise that a threat exists, I believe most definitely but let's not blow things out of proportion.

evo2000

The Bould Rabbit wrote: »

How do you know we're not doing anything about it?
Are you privvy to Dept of Defence intelligence.

So a few known terrorists hold Irish passports. So bloody what?

How do you know we are doing something about it?

Are you privvy to Dept of Defence intelligence.

A few known terrorists hold irish passports so what... i dunno maybe take em off them since there known nutcases?? id rather ireland be proactive rather than reactive,


Can you stick to the topic and stop attacking/ trying to get one over on me thanks.

evo2000

Mackas_view wrote: »

Although I do believe security measures here are in need of reform. Firstly I wouldn't get too hyped up about what you read in The Mirror of all papers and secondly I most definitely would not be looking for Tom Clonans input.

Do we need to realise that a threat exists, I believe most definitely but let's not blow things out of proportion.

I get what your sayin alright, id just rather ireland take a tougher stance on **** like this and stop relying on the whole "Oh were neutral" craic as a shield, i doubt we ll be attacked but if we were shannon airport would be a very soft target for say a paris type incident.

The Bould Rabbit

evo2000 wrote: »

How do you know we are doing something about it?

Are you privvy to Dept of Defence intelligence.

A few known terrorists hold irish passports so what... i dunno maybe take em off them since there known nutcases?? id rather ireland be proactive rather than reactive,


Can you stick to the topic and stop attacking/ trying to get one over on me thanks.

First of all, when it comes to being proactive about terrorism, vigilance starts with the individual, not their government. Blaming governments and pontificating is easy.

As for taking passports off people simply because they are 'known nutcases' - really? Who decides they are nutcases? Should we introduce a form of internment for Irish citizens?

I've said a number of times that Ireland is likely to be attacked at some stage. But when it happens, I don't think the government will entirely to blame (easy as that would be).

And no, of course I'm not privvy to Dept of Def intelligence. But I'm not the one creating finger wagging threads based on sensationalist articles in the tabloids.

evo2000

The Bould Rabbit wrote: »

First of all, when it comes to being proactive about terrorism, vigilance starts with the individual, not their government. Blaming governments and pontificating is easy.

As for taking passports off people simply because they are 'known nutcases' - really? Who decides they are nutcases? Should we introduce a form of internment for Irish citizens?

I've said a number of times that Ireland is likely to be attacked at some stage. But when it happens, I don't think the government will entirely to blame (easy as that would be).

And no, of course I'm not privvy to Dept of Def intelligence. But I'm not the one creating finger wagging threads based on sensationalist articles in the tabloids.

Dont cry man its just a thread if you dont like it feel free to leave or refrain from commenting if you cant stay on the subject rather than attacking the poster id suggest you do the latter

Yes we should introduce a form of internment for Irish citizens that are known terrorist currently traveling to join the likes of isis and the likes...would you have a problem with this? i certainly wouldnt!

Better yet take there passports and boot em out of the country! we should have zero tolerance for people like that!

TheBegotten

It's the duty of the state to protect the citizens of the state and their rights - this includes freedom of expression, conviction and religious beliefs. Just because individuals who hold Irish passports are on terrorist watch lists does not provide justification to detain or arrest these individuals. Simply being a Linux enthusiast can land one on an NSA watch list in some cases.

Secondly, to be quite frank, this is not our fight. We do not engage in conflicts in the Middle East outside of our duties as UN peace-keepers. We do not have an oppressed or stereotyped Muslim population (to my knowledge, feel free to contradict me with your own experiences) to feel disenfranchised with the state. At every turn our envoys and figureheads - especially our recent presidents - preach a message of tolerance and solidarity through cultural and religious divides.

I say let them come. We are not, nor have we ever been, aggressors or oppressors of Muslims and in the face of those who would have us hate the Islamic population - for this is the ultimate goal of these terrorists, to create a disenfranchised and oppressed Muslim community from which they can recruit - we can only respond with tolerance and solidarity. Not because it is easy - the easiest thing to do would be to drive them all out, and let someone else deal with the problem - but because hate and fear will only serve to create more hate and fear. After all, is that not the ultimate point of satire? It's hard to be hateful and afraid when you're laughing.

The Bould Rabbit

evo2000 wrote: »

Dont cry man its just a thread if you dont like it feel free to leave or refrain from commenting if you cant stay on the subject rather than attacking the poster id suggest you do the latter

Yes we should introduce a form of internment for Irish citizens that are known terrorist currently traveling to join the likes of isis and the likes...would you have a problem with this? i certainly wouldnt!

Better yet take there passports and boot em out of the country! we should have zero tolerance for people like that!

The only thing I'm crying in is laughter at your blissful ignorance and farcical solutions in the face of such a topic.

Yes, I'll refrain from commenting on your insights from here on. Not because you want me to. But because I don't think you actually have the faintest idea what you're on about. And don't confuse that with me attacking the poster, it's a simple fact. You're talking gibberish.

Before I go, I leave you with one little question. How do you suggest we go about confiscating passports from Irish citizens and then 'boot' those Irish citizens out of Ireland? Their own country.

Duiske

Mena wrote: »

Extremists with Irish passports? The IRA?

Too soon?

No. About 10 years too late.

evo2000

The Bould Rabbit wrote: »

The only thing I'm crying in is laughter at your blissful ignorance and farcical solutions in the face of such a topic.

Yes, I'll refrain from commenting on your insights from here on. Not because you want me to. But because I don't think you actually have the faintest idea what you're on about. And don't confuse that with me attacking the poster, it's a simple fact. You're talking gibberish.

Before I go, I leave you with one little question. How do you suggest we go about confiscating passports from Irish citizens and then 'boot' those Irish citizens out of Ireland? Their own country.

Atleast im offering solutions all ur doing is sitting there criticizing and talking pure naive waffle, whats your solutions? let me guess state pension packages and a pat on the back for all terrorists/extremists coming back from Syria and the likes, and of course we should follow the rules to a tee with these people, because they do the same oh wait...

ygolometsipe

I can just imagine Mrs Galway peaking out the window every 5 minutes
watching "the muslems" - what the feck are the up too.

The gardai would be in undated with gossip.

Its a disgrace Joe - they don't go to mass on a Sunday or a Saturday

SWL

Mena wrote: »

Extremists with Irish passports? The IRA?

Too soon?

How were the IRA extremists?, i think you need to get a history book

tomwaterford

Paco Rodriguez wrote: »

They are using Ireland to host terrorists until they can get transition to Syria because we are not as active as other EU countries in tackling them.
They are not going to rock the boat here as long as they have benefit.
But if we start publishing cartoons as some people here would like to see then maybe.

So in effect little difference to the us military using shannon as a stop point on route to Iraq???
Only they are on the opposite sides of the war?

Though I could understand (not agree with)...if them Islamists attacked us warplanes in Shannon....though would this create an awlful ****storm if the us were to return fire on Irish soil??

AllGunsBlazing

The article seems to hint more towards Ireland being used as a jump off point for entry to Europe.

Then again, you never know. The world seems to be a crazy enough place where just about anything can happen anywhere

evo2000

tomwaterford wrote: »

So in effect little difference to the us military using shannon as a stop point on route to Iraq???
Only they are on the opposite sides of the war?

Though I could understand (not agree with)...if them Islamists attacked us warplanes in Shannon....though would this create an awlful ****storm if the us were to return fire on Irish soil??

Not if they shot the **** out of extremists trying to blow up shannon airport if that happened id imagine they d be thanked, and i think theres a thing in place where its joint irish and american while the yanks are there so they have the right to defend it or something i could be wrong tho

CrazyRabbit

I asked every Muslim I met today if they had any plans to attack Ireland and they all gave an emphatic 'No!', so I think we're safe.

AndonHandon

Google HQ could be targeted after they publish a million copies of the French comic book.

evo2000

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I asked every Muslim I met today if they had any plans to attack Ireland and they all gave an emphatic 'No!', so I think we're safe.

Extremist doesn't = Muslim broseph!

Venus In Furs

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Yeah, and arguably waging more destruction than they ever did.

SF are arguably waging more destruction now than the IRA did in the 70s and 80s...?

Egginacup

evo2000 wrote: »

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/paris-jihad-attacks-could-hit-4957807

Paper fear mongering or do you think it holds any weight?

After reading the article it annoys me that there are known terrorists holding irish passports 40 of them, the fact that you cant come to ireland via Ferry unchecked is another thing...

If whats said in the article is true ireland is ****ing pathetic, we know there are extremists holding irish passports and we do nothing about it, we know there are extremists in the country and do nothing about, if this is true we are a tragedy waiting to happen and it will be 100% our own fault for not having the balls to do something about it first!

So you know there are extremists holding Irish passports do you? And what would you propose to do about it? It's not illegal to hold an Irish passport, is it? What did you have in mind?

fryup

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I asked every Muslim I met today if they had any plans to attack Ireland and they all gave an emphatic 'No!', so I think we're safe.

phew!! thanks for that, i can sleep easy tonight

brevity

glued wrote: »

Oh The Daily Mirror must have moved on from their million articles about GIANT KILLING DEATH SPIDERS...

Rag of a paper.

What's all this about giant death spiders?!

evo2000

Egginacup wrote: »

So you know there are extremists holding Irish passports do you? And what would you propose to do about it? It's not illegal to hold an Irish passport, is it? What did you have in mind?

According to the article im assuming there is extremists holding Irish passports, do you have some difficulty in reading what i typed ? Other country's such as the US and Britain have also become some how magically aware that there are extremists holding passports to there country's :eek: so no its not outside the realm of possibility that there are extremists holding irish passports...

Let me ask you a question since your basically repeating a question ive already answered in this thread, what would you do? if you knew there was extremists holding an irish passport would you be a goodie two shoes and let them waltz back into the country? do everything by the book i suppose or would you rather there passports taken and them kicked out of the country because of there extreme radical views and the danger they present.

People that are so opposed to the western world so much so that they would carry out attacks like in paris on innocent people dont deserve to live in the western world!

The Backwards Man

Venus In Furs wrote: »

SF are arguably waging more destruction now than the IRA did in the 70s and 80s...?

Tongue in cheek.:p

Never mentioned SF or the IRA either.:)

The other fella

My uncle is in the IRA anyway and ill just get them after those muslims if they try anything.

Birneybau

ChunkyLover54 wrote: »

Just giving the people what they want.

Laughed out loud at that. Modern times in a nutshell. Bill Gates drinks liquid poo! ;D

brandnewaward

It's an article Niamh Horan would have been proud to have written

Chickentown

Venus In Furs wrote: »

SF are arguably waging more destruction now than the IRA did in the 70s and 80s...?

States Irish Independent reader.