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thomond2006

Buer wrote: »

Oh. Right. That.

Yeah, little boy and a little girl arrived just a week ago. 3lbs each. Bit small but perfectly healthy. Just need to get on the weight gain diet! Thrilled with them.

Good to see the new generation of rugby forum posters coming through.

Podge_irl

Buer wrote: »

Oh. Right. That.

Yeah, little boy and a little girl arrived just a week ago. 3lbs each. Bit small but perfectly healthy. Just need to get on the weight gain diet! Thrilled with them.

Who's your favourite?

Teferi

Buer wrote: »

Oh. Right. That.

Yeah, little boy and a little girl arrived just a week ago.

And how are little Brian and Gordona?

Zzippy

Twins!!! See ya in a few years...

Congrats!!

molloyjh

Congrats Buer. And it's Gordon and Brianna Teferi, obviously.

awec

Pretty sure it's Awec and Aweca

swiwi_

Buer wrote: »

Oh. Right. That.

Yeah, little boy and a little girl arrived just a week ago. 3lbs each. Bit small but perfectly healthy. Just need to get on the weight gain diet! Thrilled with them.

A man who can fire 2 bullets with 1 pull of the trigger commands respect.

You'll be googling the definition of sleep soon for your troubles though.

Mes félicitations tout de même. Even without our resident devil the forum has been hellish at times.

Pink Fairy

Congrats Buer...twins though.....makes an old Jaffa like me feel very happy that I don't have to do it all again

.ak

Buer wrote: »

Oh. Right. That.

Yeah, little boy and a little girl arrived just a week ago. 3lbs each. Bit small but perfectly healthy. Just need to get on the weight gain diet! Thrilled with them.

Congrats dude!

.ak

Making a Murder is fascinating, but the Jinx is better IMO.

Can't help but feel these documentaries because of their drama value are only telling one side of the story though.

.ak

.ak wrote: »

Making a Murder is fascinating, but the Jinx is better IMO.

Can't help but feel these documentaries because of their drama value are only telling one side of the story though.

Oh yeah completely. The whole time I'm wondering what it would be like if you had the prosecution being interviewed throughout.

Buer

Podge_irl wrote: »

Who's your favourite?

The one that sleeps the most.

Buer

awec wrote: »

Pretty sure it's Awec and Aweca

In a bizarre coincidence, my son actually has your name.



To confirm, he is not named after you.

Buer

.ak wrote: »

Making a Murder is fascinating, but the Jinx is better IMO.

Can't help but feel these documentaries because of their drama value are only telling one side of the story though.

Completely. The makers have commented publicly on the questions regarding bias and lack of even handedness in the portrayal following some comments by those involved.

They responded that they couldn't show every bit of evidence but showed what they felt to be the most important.

Which, on digging into the case, is pretty much BS. They had a theme in mind from the start and built their documentary around it. Still compulsive watching, mind you.

awec

Buer wrote: »

In a bizarre coincidence, my son actually has your name.



To confirm, he is not named after you.

You mean you didn't tell your wife that you wanted to name your first son after your favourite boards mod?

sullivlo

.ak wrote: »

Making a Murder is fascinating, but the Jinx is better IMO.

Can't help but feel these documentaries because of their drama value are only telling one side of the story though.

The Jinx is next on my list. Currently listening to Serial (the podcast) now. It's pretty good too - and makes the commute easier.

Zzippy

awec wrote: »

You mean you didn't tell your wife that you wanted to name your first son after your favourite boards mod?

Reminds me of this

Yeah_Right

awec wrote: »

You mean you didn't tell your wife that you wanted to name your first son after your favourite boards mod?

AK or RuggieBear?

Have watched four episodes of Making a Murderer now, still have no idea what I think about the case.

making a murderer

Clearly a biased enough tale, but absolutely fascinating. Binged on it this week and finished it last night.

Couldn't but be impressed with the two defence lawyers, Dean Strang in particular is some man.

Lot of utter disbelief at clearly wrong statements in court. I couldn't understand how the FBI guy could possibly make the statement that he did. He wasn't forced to either, could have easily just said "of the 3 I tested, 3 were negative". The idea that he could extend that to samples he hadn't tested is absolutely bizarre.

Timeline of the entire case here -
https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/3yvajx/timeline_of_eventsnew_info/

For anyone who enjoyed it and hasn't seen The Jinx yet, go do that asap. It's only 6x40minute episodes so is an easier monster to get through.

sullivlo

Deleted User wrote: »

making a murderer

Clearly a biased enough tale, but absolutely fascinating. Binged on it this week and finished it last night.

Couldn't but be impressed with the two defence lawyers, Dean Strang in particular is some man.

Lot of utter disbelief at clearly wrong statements in court. I couldn't understand how the FBI guy could possibly make the statement that he did. He wasn't forced to either, could have easily just said "of the 3 I tested, 3 were negative". The idea that he could extend that to samples he hadn't tested is absolutely bizarre.

Timeline of the entire case here -
https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/3yvajx/timeline_of_eventsnew_info/

For anyone who enjoyed it and hasn't seen The Jinx yet, go do that asap. It's only 6x40minute episodes so is an easier monster to get through.

It is a defo biased presentation of the case - but the prosecution said they didn't want to be involved in the documentary. It's definitely edited to show Avery in a good light, and the cops in a bad light. And there is some evidence left out. But the bits they showed would definitely show "reasonable doubt".

I'm not sure Avery is innocent, but based on the evidence shown I don't know how they could say he was 100% guilty.

Buer

sullivlo wrote: »

It is a defo biased presentation of the case - but the prosecution said they didn't want to be involved in the documentary. It's definitely edited to show Avery in a good light, and the cops in a bad light. And there is some evidence left out. But the bits they showed would definitely show "reasonable doubt".

I'm not sure Avery is innocent, but based on the evidence shown I don't know how they could say he was 100% guilty.

I think that'a all reasonable enough. From more reading, regardless of the murder conviction, I'm now unsure as to whether he should even walking the streets. The conversations between Brendan and his mother that are in the documentary are edited significantly. One of the parts they leave out is Brendan telling his mother that Steven molested him and his brother.

I'm fairly convinced that there's absolutely reasonable doubt but also he's in the right place.

Bazzo

sullivlo wrote: »

It is a defo biased presentation of the case - but the prosecution said they didn't want to be involved in the documentary. It's definitely edited to show Avery in a good light, and the cops in a bad light. And there is some evidence left out. But the bits they showed would definitely show "reasonable doubt".

I'm not sure Avery is innocent, but based on the evidence shown I don't know how they could say he was 100% guilty.

I saw the other day that supposedly one of the jurors came forward to the makers of the documentary recently and told them that there was a family member of someone in the sherrif's department in the jury and another juror was a family member of someone in the clerk's office. They said that those two refused to vote anything but guilty from the outset and that that particular juror at least began to fear what reprecussions there might be if they didn't go along with the guilty vote. They reckoned the only way the trial would have been fair was if it was held outside WISCONSIN, never mind with jurors from the same county.

No idea of the validity of it but here's a link to an article about it: http://www.vulture.com/2016/01/making-a-murderer-juror-says-steven-avery-was-framed.html

Buer

Can't the lawyers involved have visibility of the potential juror list and object to specific potential jurors in advance? If so, they don't have a leg to stand on with that one.

sullivlo

Buer wrote: »

Can't the lawyers involved have visibility of the potential juror list and object to specific potential jurors in advance? If so, they don't have a leg to stand on with that one.

Yes - they do. They have the option to remove up to 6 people from the list of potential jurors - they used their 6 strikes, and that's what they were left with.

The juror who was excused was really shook by the whole experience I think. Felt sorry for him.

mfceiling

Black lines....so many black lines

irishbucsfan

I feel like the NSA has been through my internet

Bazzo

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I feel like the NSA has been through my internet

If you've ever been in contact with anybody in the states, they probably have

TeoReid

I walked to work on Monday when it was -16c. my testicles just reappeared

Zzippy

TeoReid wrote: »

I walked to work on Monday when it was -16c. my testicles just reappeared

Ah, but it's probably a dry cold! You lucky b@stard! :P