*SNIP* warns of future attacks if Muhammad is mocked

Standman

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Does anyone really know what Mohammed looks like?

No. Even when he was alive depictions of him were forbidden. Ironically, he was eventually executed for depicting himself.

cruais

Sick of these people shoving their religion down people's throats.

caorach_mor

All organized religions should be systematically removed from society in my opinion.

Except Hare Krishna's, they are f**king cool.

Aongus Von Bismarck

seanaway wrote: »

Just been reading the news reports from around the world.
Anyone here seen any reports of people in the streets in any muslim country showing solidarity for France?

Genuine question here and I'm NOT trying to make a point other than there were/are plenty of people on the streets supporting Palestinians, Iraqies, Syrians etc... in Paris and other western cities.

Just wondered if there is any reciprocation of solidarity. Hope so because it will be a real negative if there haven't been any.

And yes there were statements from Arab League leaders etc... but I'm talking about people on the streets.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/01/car-bomb-explodes-outside-yemen-police-centre-2015175443717838.html

How many were out protesting in solidarity at the car bomb that killed three times as many people in Yemen on the same day?

Whilst this attack in Paris is horrendous, gruesome and utterly contemptible, worse attacks happen on a daily basis in the arab world.

My name is URL

caorach_mor wrote: »

All organized religions should be systematically removed from society in my opinion.

Yes, that worked out well under Stalin :rolleyes:

Sisko

seanaway wrote: »

We have it because we have politicians and others who like to think they are liberal and multicultural.

In fact, they know bugger all about either and go around trying to tell everyone we should copy the mistakes made by others. Then they call people ignorant if they express opinions which don't reflect their own new found 'beliefs'.


They made a mess of Britain with all that clap trap - as can be witnessed by the loony on rte tonight.

What!?

The blasphemy law is crazy right winger stuff

SILVAMAN

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Does anyone really know what Mohammed looks like?

at this stage the odd bone frgment

SILVAMAN

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Haha and you're probably one of the loons bleating about free speech. You guys crack me up :D

free speech has its limits when you demand the murder and wholesale slaughter of people who hold different views from yourself
that is what Choudery does

TwoShedsJackson

SILVAMAN wrote: »

free speech has its limits when you demand the murder and wholesale slaughter of people who hold different views from yourself
that is what Choudery does

He should be allowed do that until he is blue in the face, to let others see what a nut he is. If you shut him up it radicalises him and some of his supporters, which may lead to his ridiculous words being transferred into deeds.

seanaway

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/01/car-bomb-explodes-outside-yemen-police-centre-2015175443717838.html

How many were out protesting in solidarity at the car bomb that killed three times as many people in Yemen on the same day?

Whilst this attack in Paris is horrendous, gruesome and utterly contemptible, worse attacks happen on a daily basis in the arab world.

I don't think you got my point. I was asking about people sympathising with France.

The car bomb in Yemen is intra-muslim -horrendous and disgusting. It was not a bomb planted by Christians against Muslims for saying something about Jesus.

No one in the west would condone such an attack and there would be public outrage and demonstartons suppportng muslims if that were to happen. As there were supporting Iraq and Palestine.

seanaway

Sisko wrote: »

What!?

The blasphemy law is crazy right winger stuff

You agree with me so.

My point is the law should be removed. It is supported by those I mentioned. Listen to the nut on Prime time last night. He'd love the chance to stir it up by bringing a case. Foment division and step into the resulting chaos.

Hitler did it, Stalin did it, The Taliban did it ......

Paz-CCFC

seanaway wrote: »

I'll leave you to your childish pleasures so.

I love your derision of so-called childishness, whilst simultaneously replying in a manner akin to "it's my ball and if you don't let me win, I'm taking it home with me". You seem unwilling (or unable) to back up your own points and analogies, which is fine, so I suppose it's best to hold onto your ball. I'll hold onto my views of not wanting people kicked out of the country for simply having a different opinion.

seanaway

Standman wrote: »

No. Even when he was alive depictions of him were forbidden. Ironically, he was eventually executed for depicting himself.

I thought he was poisened after eating a bit of lamb. Woman poisened him.

seanaway

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

I love your derision of so-called childishness, whilst simultaneously replying in a manner akin to "it's my ball and if you don't let me win, I'm taking it home with me". You seem unwilling (or unable) to back up your own points and analogies, which is fine, so I suppose it's best to hold onto your ball. I'll hold onto my views of not wanting people kicked out of the country for simply having a different opinion.

I think if you read the interactions carefully it was you who brought in 'little victory' type talk. I don't believe in point scoring/keeping. Mature discussion is about expression and persuasion.

Your statement clearly showed you see it as a game to be won or lost. Hence the childishness.

I treat your opinions to be as equally valid as mine. I wasn't asking for everyone who expresses a different opinion to be kicked out.

It is those who chose to come to Ireland for a better life becasue of our freedoms and then want those freedoms removed I was aiming at.

If you come because of the freedoms then don't expect us to remove them to suit your warped philosophy of life so that you can condone the cold blooded massacre of talented innocent civilians.

If they really believe that everyone should be able to change teh way an adopted country should behave, let's start with the countries they come from. Maybe start with the Vatican funding a church in Mecca.

RobertKK

This is simple, just draw pictures of Muhammad's wife playing with other children.

Mrs Muhammad with friends,and show them being supervised by adults.

...and use it as an ad against child trafficking.

kingchess

Heard the tale end of an interview on REDfm between some spokesman for Islam and that bollix Neil Prenderville,crazy stuff,sodomy and adultery would be punished by death if we are under sharia law etc, But how representable are these spokesmen of the every day views of 1.8 billion Muslims?? are they a bit like a Catholic Bishop insisting that Church law is above Irish law??

FluffyAngel

Is Snip a new terrorist orgnastion?

irish coldplayer

kingchess wrote: »

Heard the tale end of an interview on REDfm between some spokesman for Islam and that bollix Neil Prenderville,crazy stuff,sodomy and adultery would be punished by death if we are under sharia law etc, But how representable are these spokesmen of the every day views of 1.8 billion Muslims?? are they a bit like a Catholic Bishop insisting that Church law is above Irish law??

The stats in this pew poll posted in another thread don't make for pleasant reading
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=93757303&postcount=176

the_syco

So... religious figure promises future attacks if free speech is kept?

Ask him to watch Father Ted, tbh. Actually, imagine a Father Ted sketch done with two Islamic imams? That'd probably send them over the edge!

pah

Surely the blasphemy law in this country refers to Christianity and attempting to use said law in reference to Islam and Mohammad is in itself blasphemous?

VinLieger

pah wrote: »

Surely the blasphemy law in this country refers to Christianity and attempting to use said law in reference to Islam and Mohammad is in itself blasphemous?

As much as I disagree with the blasphemy law restricting it to only cover the certain religions we like is a ridiculous notion

drumswan

pah wrote: »

Surely the blasphemy law in this country refers to Christianity and attempting to use said law in reference to Islam and Mohammad is in itself blasphemous?

And pretty sure Allah and Jehovah are the same (fictional) chap, Jesus and Mohammed are considered divine prophets in Islam

Piliger

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/01/car-bomb-explodes-outside-yemen-police-centre-2015175443717838.html

How many were out protesting in solidarity at the car bomb that killed three times as many people in Yemen on the same day?

Whilst this attack in Paris is horrendous, gruesome and utterly contemptible, worse attacks happen on a daily basis in the arab world.

Well we don't live in the arab world ...

bjork

With this defense I'm not sure why we're too worried. Surely we have a "few reasonable people"

https://www.constitution.ie/AttachmentDownload.ashx?mid=54533e30-c843-e311-8571-005056a32ee4

Finally, it is a defence to the crime to prove that a reasonable person would find genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, or academic value in the matter to which the offence relates.

Piliger

bjork wrote: »

With this defense I'm not sure why we're too worried. Surely we have a "few reasonable people"

https://www.constitution.ie/AttachmentDownload.ashx?mid=54533e30-c843-e311-8571-005056a32ee4

Finally, it is a defence to the crime to prove that a reasonable person would find genuine literary, artistic, political, scientific, or academic value in the matter to which the offence relates.

Of course it is a defence. But the Irish media are not willing to risk their wallets.

Stev_o

seanaway wrote: »

Just been reading the news reports from around the world.
Anyone here seen any reports of people in the streets in any muslim country showing solidarity for France?

Genuine question here and I'm NOT trying to make a point other than there were/are plenty of people on the streets supporting Palestinians, Iraqies, Syrians etc... in Paris and other western cities.

Just wondered if there is any reciprocation of solidarity. Hope so because it will be a real negative if there haven't been any.

And yes there were statements from Arab League leaders etc... but I'm talking about people on the streets.

Nearly every major Arab countries media has come out and condemned the attacks.

We don't go marching outside the Mexico embassy every week after a massacre happens there.

seanaway

drumswan wrote: »

And pretty sure Allah and Jehovah are the same (fictional) chap, Jesus and Mohammed are considered divine prophets in Islam

Tempted to do the 'He said Jehovah - stome him' piece but

The difference between the two is that Jehovah did not kill - Mohammad killed all over the place. In fact was something of a warmonger according to the koran.

seanaway

Stev_o wrote: »

Nearly every major Arab countries media has come out and condemned the attacks.

We don't go marching outside the Mexico embassy every week after a massacre happens there.

Again, I say ... People - NOT Media - NOT politicians who are worried about thier own asses - PEOPLE on the streets . Just like in Paris when poeple showed support for the Palestinians. I would like to have seen at least the Palestinians out showing some sympathy for those who tried to help them. But it seems that just isn't going to happen is it?

You DO have to ask why.

Piliger

Stev_o wrote: »

Nearly every major Arab countries media has come out and condemned the attacks.

What ? a few westernised politicians ? Give me breath ...

We don't go marching outside the Mexico embassy every week after a massacre happens there.

We would if the murder was Irish.

namloc1980

seanaway wrote: »

Tempted to do the 'He said Jehovah - stome him' piece but

The difference between the two is that Jehovah did not kill - Mohammad killed all over the place. In fact was something of a warmonger according to the koran.

Jehovah being God was pretty fond of a bit of mass murder and regular genocides especially in the Torah (old testament).