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* CAO - a few important points ... * !Change of Mind CLOSES Friday 1st July at 17.15!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    Is this about science? Like in UCD maybe the modules you wish to take are not maths/physics, but geology, chem etc where maths isn't needed for your studies. I'm not sure, but it sounds like that if you have decided to take the path of biology/chem/geology rather than the maths/physics route, then you can do foundation. Maybe Nim can clear it up.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Now, does this mean I have to do OL Maths and get a C3, or can I just do foundation and I will qualify? Because it says that it qualifies matriculation.

    You have to meet matriculation requirements and course specific requirements. Matriculation is the minimum requirements for entering a university. But that course requires a C3 at OL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    This is what it says for my entry requirements to my course:

    -2HC3 & 4OD3, passes in English & Irish & a third language, OC3/ HD3 Mathematics

    Foundation level Mathematics is accepted for Matriculation, but does not meet the requirement for degrees where Mathematics is a special programme requirement.


    Now, does this mean I have to do OL Maths and get a C3, or can I just do foundation and I will qualify? Because it says that it qualifies matriculation.
    To qualify for a course in a university you need three things:

    1) Entry requirements for the university (Matriculation). Foundation will do you here, from the piece you quoted.

    2) The specific course requirements: for your course this is at least a C3 at OL; Foundation will not suffice. That's what they mean by Foundation "not meeting the requirement for degrees where Maths is a special programme requirement". It is a special programme requirement in this case, and they specify minimum OC3.

    3) The points.

    In your case, if you only have Foundation, the CAO computer will pass you through Gate Number 1, but stop you dead at Gate Number 2. Do not pass Go, do not collect €200.

    Even if you have 100 points over and above, it won't matter; the computer will never move on to checking your points for that course because with Foundation you don't satisfy number 2 - the specific course minimum requirements.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 LC202


    Don't know if this is the right place to post it, but how many subjects can you fail at Leaving Cert and still get into a level 8 course?

    Reason Im asking is because im very worried about History next Wednesday (Haven't studied at all in the past few months). Basically I feel like with a little work I COULD scrape a pass or maybe high D if things went well on the day, but am still at risk of failing Higher level, so am thinking of dropping down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭jumpguy


    LC202 wrote: »
    Don't know if this is the right place to post it, but how many subjects can you fail at Leaving Cert and still get into a level 8 course?

    Reason Im asking is because im very worried about History next Wednesday (Haven't studied at all in the past few months). Basically I feel like with a little work I COULD scrape a pass or maybe high D if things went well on the day, but am still at risk of failing Higher level, so am thinking of dropping down.
    Failing history won't stop you entering any 3rd level course, a pass in it is not an entry requirement for any of them (unlike Irish or maths, a pass in which is an entry requirement for the NUI universities - UCD, NUIG, UCC and...hmm...DCU I think).


  • Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭joe14


    please everybody,I am confused,looking at my course these are the entry requirements


    Six Leaving Certificate subjects, including Maths, and English, or Irish, with: C3 in one Higher Level paper, together with at least grade D3 in five Ordinary Level papers, or at least grade D3 in six Ordinary Level papers, and at least 200 points.

    does this mean If i get a C3 in a higher level paper,pass everything else,I automatically get in.Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    joe14 wrote: »
    please everybody,I am confused,looking at my course these are the entry requirements


    Six Leaving Certificate subjects, including Maths, and English, or Irish, with: C3 in one Higher Level paper, together with at least grade D3 in five Ordinary Level papers, or at least grade D3 in six Ordinary Level papers, and at least 200 points.

    does this mean If i get a C3 in a higher level paper,pass everything else,I automatically get in.Thanks

    No, it means that you meet the minimum academic entry requirements for the course. Everyone who does is listed in order of points by the CAO and say there are 20 places on the course and 40 people apply, the top 20 points wise who meet entry requirements are offered a place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Guys, can I just gently suggest ye skim the thread before asking your question. Most of these are repeated again and again. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 Rozada


    On the website it states that 'All subjects of the Leaving Certificate are accepted for matriculation registration purposes, with the exception of Gaeilge Bonnleibhéal (Irish Foundation Level), Mathematics (Ordinary Alternative/Foundation Level and; Home Economics (General), which is recognised only for St. Angela's College, Sligo.'

    Does this mean S&S (Home Economics) will not be accepted as a subject? I was relying on it for entry :(


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Rozada wrote: »
    On the website it states that 'All subjects of the Leaving Certificate are accepted for matriculation registration purposes, with the exception of Gaeilge Bonnleibhéal (Irish Foundation Level), Mathematics (Ordinary Alternative/Foundation Level and; Home Economics (General), which is recognised only for St. Angela's College, Sligo.'

    Does this mean S&S (Home Economics) will not be accepted as a subject? I was relying on it for entry :(

    No, it means that Home Economics (General) is not accepted, except for St. Angela's College.
    Home Economics (S&S) is fine. They are two different subjects.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 DT229


    Hey, new to boards here and this is probably a stupid question, but I just can't get it out of my head.
    My course specifies that I need at least an Ordinary B3 in maths to matriculate, which I'm fairly confident I'll get. However, I'm not planning on counting it as one of my six subjects for points. I know that this probably isn't an issue, but I just want to make sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    DT229 wrote: »
    Hey, new to boards here and this is probably a stupid question, but I just can't get it out of my head.
    My course specifies that I need at least an Ordinary B3 in maths to matriculate, which I'm fairly confident I'll get. However, I'm not planning on counting it as one of my six subjects for points. I know that this probably isn't an issue, but I just want to make sure.

    No, it's not a problem. Requirements do not have to be in your top 6 for points.


  • Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭When the Sun Hits


    Notes:
    Please ensure that you post all your supporting documents to CAO.
    Certified copies of results of 2015 examinations (excluding Leaving Cert & FETAC) must be provided to CAO as soon as they become available. All documents must be clearly marked with your name and CAO Number. Please read pages 12-14 of the 2015 CAO Handbook for further instructions.

    Does this require any action on my part? I did not do my LC this year, am reapplying. Just want to make sure I have everything covered.


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 juru


    I have a quick question. If my son does not get his 1st choice and his 2nd choice is entry with an interview, will he be penalised for not putting the course as a 1st choice?


    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    juru wrote: »
    I have a quick question. If my son does not get his 1st choice and his 2nd choice is entry with an interview, will he be penalised for not putting the course as a 1st choice?


    thanks
    He won't be penalised for putting it second as such, but has he done the interview? Or are interviews not normally done for it until offers time? Or (another possibility) is there an interview round after Change of Mind closes?

    Just make sure he's not adding a restricted course, i.e. one which has to be on his application since January.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    juru wrote: »
    I have a quick question. If my son does not get his 1st choice and his 2nd choice is entry with an interview, will he be penalised for not putting the course as a 1st choice?


    thanks

    I got offered a place after an interview for a particular course. We were told as follows:
    The CAO will be informed of your success, and subject to you meeting the maths requirement and (course name) being the top-ranked CAO choice for which you qualify, they will make you an offer for (course name) in the normal way.

    So no, where he ranks the course doesn't matter, as long as he has already passed the interview and meets the other requirements for the course.

    Edit: to clarify, "qualified" for a course means getting the required Leaving Cert points and meeting all subject requirements, or in the case of an interview-based course, passing the interview and meeting all subject requirements.

    The purpose of ranking your courses on the CAO is so that they can try and give you the highest course on your list that you qualify for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 451 ✭✭Stooped


    Sorry if this has been asked, but how do we actually receive the offers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Stooped wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked, but how do we actually receive the offers?

    Log on to the CAO website the day of the offers and your offer will be listed there. You can then accept it online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭nerd95


    Stooped wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked, but how do we actually receive the offers?

    Do you mean receive the CAO offers? If so, from what I can remember, you go onto CAO and login into your account and then you will see two offers on the screen once you login- (i.e you can get a level 8 offer and a level 6/7 offer). Then you click "accept" for the offer you want and you do not click the other one- (the accept option for the level 6/7 course will remain on CAO even after you accept the level 8 course but do not click it) You will then get an email, confirming that you choose the level 8 course. That's it basically- from what I remember anyway! :) Good luck!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Stooped wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked, but how do we actually receive the offers?
    CAO Handbook ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    cant find this on the cao booklet anywhere but what if,
    i get the points for my first choice on my cao and get the points for it do i also get an offer from the level 6/7 course too or?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    cant find this on the cao booklet anywhere but what if,
    i get the points for my first choice on my cao and get the points for it do i also get an offer from the level 6/7 course too or?

    You mean if you have filled in the Level 8 list and the Level 6/7 list??

    Yes you can get two offers, one from each list. If you accept one of them that means the other one is automatically rejected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Stooped wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been asked, but how do we actually receive the offers?

    Carrier pigeon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Carrier pigeon.
    I'll get a carrier pigeon to fly over you and drop you a little present in a minute! :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    What if you wanted to change your course after 1st july?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    What if you wanted to change your course after 1st july?

    Randy will throw you off the GPO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Randy will throw you off the GPO

    Cmon t'f""k now haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Cmon t'f""k now haha

    I'm afraid you can't. I know some people who've tried ringing them to ask and they will literally hang the phone up on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    What if you wanted to change your course after 1st july?
    You can't. It's that simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    What if you wanted to change your course after 1st july?

    They've given people 8 months to get their shit together, no changes after July 1st.

    I actually love that the CAO run like a military operation and don't make exceptions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭Thar_Cian


    I received a deferred entry offer today, even though I didn't tick the deferred entry box and I listed several courses on my CAO application for this year. According to the CAO handbook, "You will breach the conditions of your deferred place if you enter more than the single deferred course code on your application. In that event, you will forfeit the guaranteed place and enter the competition for places in the normal way." I'm not sure why I was offered the course I deferred. I've emailed the CAO about it just to be safe. Has anyone had a similar experience?

    edit: The response I just received isn't very helpful:
    By accepting the course you were offered will not

    stop you from been offered a higher course
    preference in a later round should you become
    entitled to it


  • Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭idek1


    Is it possible to receive low offers such as your 8th choice? I only ever hear of people getting their 2nd or 3rd choice. Sorry this is random.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 20 Lykkelig


    idek1 wrote: »
    Is it possible to receive low offers such as your 8th choice? I only ever hear of people getting their 2nd or 3rd choice. Sorry this is random.

    Yeah, my friend's sister got her 8th choice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭A97


    You would only get offered your 8th choice if you don't meet the requirements for the first 7 but you do meet the requirements for the 8th. It wouldn't be inconceivable if someone had a lot of high points courses on their CAO and they just fell short, or if they didn't reach the minimum matriculation requirements for a subject e.g. HC3 Maths or OD3 Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    idek1 wrote: »
    Is it possible to receive low offers such as your 8th choice? I only ever hear of people getting their 2nd or 3rd choice. Sorry this is random.

    Yes, and it's possible for a student to receive no offer too. Getting a choice on the lower end of the list is common enough, I suspect people don't make a big deal of it though.

    There were plenty in my college course (science) who had all the medicine courses down first, and a few others like dentistry, physio etc, who got nowhere near 500 points and didn't make their first 6 or 7 choices.

    Also there would be a cohort who get a choice a good bit down their list and rather than accept it, they reject it and decide to repeat, usually to try and get something that was higher on their list as they realise they don't really want one of their last options, and that they only put it down to fill space.


  • Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭Thar_Cian


    This is a nightmare. I emailed the CAO again and I received the exact same response (same formatting, too, so it's evidently a copy-and-paste job). Why am I being offered the course I deferred last year when the handbook states, "You will breach the conditions of your deferred place if you enter more than the single deferred course code on your application"? To take up a deferred place, it says an applicant has to "Place the deferred course as your only preference on the application form" and "Indicate your deferral by ticking the deferred place indicator box on your application", which I did not do. I'm starting to get worried. I can't get through to the CAO by phoning; I've tried for hours. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Js1997 wrote: »
    Could anyone clear up my worry, I have 4 choices on the level 8 CAO, my points will most likely get me my 3rd or 4th choice, however I put down one choice on the level 7 list never with any intention of accepting it, so my question if I get offered the level 7 and turn it down, will I not be offered either 3/4 on my level 8 list, thanks

    If you have put courses on both lists, you can be offered a course from each list. So if you get a Level 8 offer and and a Level 7 offer next week you can accept either. Once you accept one of them, it automatically cancels the other offer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 Lucky Leprechaun


    I'm so confused, I had level 8 and level 7/6 courses down, I only got one offer from a level 7/6, Will I get no offers for level 8?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    I'm so confused, I had level 8 and level 7/6 courses down, I only got one offer from a level 7/6, Will I get no offers for level 8?

    If you didn't get a level 8 offer it's either because you didn't meet the requirements for the Level 8 courses you put down or you didn't have the points for any of those courses. Did you check the points for those courses this morning against what you got? Did you meet all the retirements for the Level 8 courses?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,384 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    There's a section in the CAO handbook about deferrals. It should explain how to go about deferring the course. She does have to contact the college to defer and not the CAO.

    She can do the PLC in art and defer the course and when it comes to applying to the CAO next year if she wants to accept her deferred place she justs puts that course on her application. If she wants to change her mind then she can put down other courses and her deferred place will be cancelled.
    Post edited by Peregrine on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    Carlito. wrote: »
    Can you defer your place even after you've accepted the offer? A job has come my way & I want to take it & work for a year.

    Ring the admissions office of the college, they probably will allow you to defer.


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