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hunting on 'common land'...

  • 04-01-2015 5:05pm
    #1
    FaithNoMore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭


    Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows what the story is in regards to hunting on 'common land' in Ireland.
    Apparently the ground has 15 odd shares and 4 of the farmers, who have 8-10 shares between them, said it was ok to work away.
    The problem my friend has is the local gun club and members of the general public say he has no right to be there as it's 'common land' (there's is no such thing as 'common land ' in Ireland, according to Google), even though he has permission.
    Does he need a majority vote from all the share holders? Does anyone know?!


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  • #2
    Cass
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    There is no such thing as common land. All land is owned by someone. If not a person then it's state owned.

    IOW no matter what the land is called someone needs to give permission for you to be on it. Best bet would be to seek permission from all stakeholders. Cover your arse.
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  • #3
    FaithNoMore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 ✭FaithNoMore


    Thank, it's pretty much what I thought too. Prob best getting written permission of some sort to show anyone who objects...


  • #4
    Username Exists.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭Username Exists.


    Who do the gun club have permission from?


  • #5
    FISMA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    FaithNoMore wrote: »
    Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows what the story is in regards to hunting on 'common land' in Ireland.

    I think you mean "commanage." That is, a shared ownership, not public land.

    There can be many different agreements: grazing rights and water rights for example. You'll have to source that out.

    Forget what the gun club has to say. They routinely tell outsiders nonsense to ensure more game for them. Many clubs are terrible to new members are well. Quick to take dues, slow to provide land maps.

    I would say that one farmer's permission would suffice, but would not bet my licence on it. I do not believe that any owner of the commanage land may exclude another owner or use any part of the land exclusively.

    As such, the shooting rights of one owner should allow you to shoot the commanage.

    However, before I went to such a place with gun-in-hand, I would surely talk to a someone in real estate or solicitor.


  • #6
    Mackcon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Mackcon


    Lands I have for deer stalking amount to 79 acres the rest of his land 35 acres is commanage , the npws told me I can use it for my 100 acre min as long as I get written permission from all who have rites on it


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