Careful when handling fox carcases!!!

Grizzly 45

Lads
Just got sone very bad news in the family.
Last Sat my uncle shot a red fox.Today he is in hospital in Germany with a 50/50 chance of losing his left eye because of an extremly nasty parasite that foxes dogs and cats can carry in their shte!!Its called Canis Toxicaris.It s relatively harmless if injested as it cant survive in the human body.But if even a microscopic bit of this sht gets into your eyes it can contain the parasite larve which will start to hatch in your eye.Longer it is there the more damage it will do which can lead to permanent blindness.
Folks this disease is in Ireland too and I'd hate this to happen to anyone else.For the price of a box of disposeable latex gloves and the use of these when you are out shooting or skinning a fox and the price of your eyesight it is no competition.
Grizzly.

dodderangler

Sorry to hear that mate. Hope he pulls through. Farmer asked me to give him any fox I shoot as he is getting them tested for parasites.
The one I shot the other day I gave to him but I was wearing gloves when I dragged it back.

minktrapper

What parasites is he looking for do you know Dodderangler

dodderangler

minktrapper wrote: »

What parasites is he looking for do you know Dodderangler

I am not too sure mate. He mentioned the cows when he asked about the foxes and I'm not sure whether it to do with sickness in the cattle but he wants them shot and left at his door.

minktrapper

If you think of it you might ask him.I think it might be neospora.

Capercaille

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Lads
Just got sone very bad news in the family.
Last Sat my uncle shot a red fox.Today he is in hospital in Germany with a 50/50 chance of losing his left eye because of an extremly nasty parasite that foxes dogs and cats can carry in their shte!!Its called Canis Toxicaris.It s relatively harmless if injested as it cant survive in the human body.But if even a microscopic bit of this sht gets into your eyes it can contain the parasite larve which will start to hatch in your eye.Longer it is there the more damage it will do which can lead to permanent blindness.
Folks this disease is in Ireland too and I'd hate this to happen to anyone else.For the price of a box of disposeable latex gloves and the use of these when you are out shooting or skinning a fox and the price of your eyesight it is no competition.
Grizzly.

If it's in cats/dogs as well, surely it would be very rare parasite to cause blindness since people would be in close contact with pets daily?

aaakev

Capercaille wrote: »

If it's in cats/dogs as well, surely it would be very rare parasite to cause blindness since people would be in close contact with pets daily?

Pets would be wormed and have injections so not as common in them but if heard of it before from dogs being let out to do their business in parks and that

Capercaille

aaakev wrote: »

Pets would be wormed and have injections so not as common in them but if heard of it before from dogs being let out to do their business in parks and that

Perhaps, can't remember the last time the cat/dog got a wormer. They get the vaccines every year though. Still would be very rare to get it I'd say.

aaakev

Capercaille wrote: »

Perhaps, can't remember the last time the cat/dog got a wormer. They get the vaccines every year though. Still would be very rare to get it I'd say.

I worm mine twice a year, I find I need to. Feel better about it tho with 2 small kids and the dogs in the house

Capercaille

aaakev wrote: »

I worm mine twice a year, I find I need to. Feel better about it tho with 2 small kids and the dogs in the house

Sounds like good practice. I should worm them more often.

aaakev

Capercaille wrote: »

Sounds like good practice. I should worm them more often.

Yeah I saw worms one day when I was cleaning up and hadn't done it in quite a while so it was straight down for wormer and jayes fluid and been regular since then and no repeat thankfully

Cass

Very sorry to hear that Grizz and as said above hopefully he pulls through.

I'm just back in from being out for a few hours. Farmer has called a couple of times so i'm hitting his land a few times a week as for the first time in years foxes are plaguing him and he is loosing livestock to them. Saw nothing this evening, but have gotten 3 in the last week which is more than i have in the last 2 years. Point being i started carrying disposable gloves a few years back and always have a pair in my jacket.

A friend of mine used to say to me "It's not the rocks in the road, but the pebbles in your shoe that will cause you problems". I think he meant it's the small things that seem unimportant that may cause the most harm. I also carry them for deer what with ticks, etc.

So good advice.

minktrapper

I know of a man whose son went blind because of same parasite in his dogs.So keep them wormed.

minktrapper

As far as I know the parasite is injested through the mouth and it makes it way to the eyes and then blindness can set in.So keep them wormed.

Backfire

Thanks for the heads up. Can't be too careful.

killintime

hi sorry to hear that grizz hope he gets better soon thanks for the headsup must do my own dogs aswell

Grizzly 45

minktrapper wrote: »

As far as I know the parasite is injested through the mouth and it makes it way to the eyes and then blindness can set in.So keep them wormed.

It won't survive in the human system at all by injestion.It has to be by direct insertion into the eye.
Well good news is it isnt this parasite.
Bad news is they have no idea wtf it is. Although the symptoms are very similar.one thing for sure lads after cleaning up after your hounds washing the hands and a bottle of hand sanitiser should be second nature nowadays.

tikkahunter

Could never really get over the stupidy of people posing for photos while holding a dead fox by the scruff of the neck,but some people really have no concern for hygiene (not meaning your uncle Grizz) but you see photos even on here with dead foxes and lads mouth calls lying on the dead fox.The amount of them you shoot that are walking with mange and parasites and would be absolutely stinking yet lads will just grab them bare handed and cut the tail off.I work in the Pharma industry so hygiene is bet into me ,I always keep gloves in the poachers pocket of the jacket and baby wipes and anti bacterial gel back in the jeep..I always wear the gloves and sleeve covers when grallocking or handling any deer i shoot.Animals move through land spread with slurry and move through ditches and drains full of stagnate water and yet lads just handle away and put there hands to their mouth without even washing them

minktrapper

I Googled it. Certain breeds of worm eggs if injested will mature and then migrate through the intestinal wall then travel via the bloodstream to the eyes.Causing pain in the eyes."Ocularis larva migrants" they are called. The thought of roundworms having their living quarters in my eyes does not appeal to me.

minktrapper

Had a man in my yard today and we were talking about disease and related items.His neighbours daughter lost the sight in one eye because of round worms from dogs.

deeksofdoom

I hate touching foxes, always wear gloves.

im fecked so! never use gloves

Hunter456

Capercaille wrote: »

If it's in cats/dogs as well, surely it would be very rare parasite to cause blindness since people would be in close contact with pets daily?

this parasite is in the ****e particles of foxes, dogs, and cats most blindness is caused by people either not washing their hands and rubbing your eyes this parasite is very much real a guy i now loss an eye from cutting his lawn picking up grass as you do when the box is full and not washing his hands he rubbed his eye with unwashed hands and thats how he lost his eye the lava went to fare.