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what is 'peasant mentality'?

  • 01-01-2015 10:03am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    I've been seeing this phrase crop up here and there but am not sure what it means. To hazard a guess I would say the mentality of 'don't get above your station' and generally a narrow minded ignorant view of the world, without the power to be able to think critically.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone II


    lufties wrote: »
    I've been seeing this phrase crop up here and there but am not sure what it means. To hazard a guess I would say the mentality of 'don't get above your station' and generally a narrow minded ignorant view of the world, without the power to be able to think critically.

    i.e.
    AH regulars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    I wrote peasant mentality not deluded holier than thous :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    A northern Italian from Milan or Turin could call somebody from the southern regions, Sicily etc a peasant or even a slur like guinea! The brown eyes, dark hair and swarthy (tanned complexion)

    Every nation has it's own version of peasants, in Ireland you have travellers and nordies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭magick


    You own a console


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    It seems someone didn't get a kiss from the pretty little from Omagh last night


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,070 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    You don't recognise the PC as the superior gaming platform.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭qt3.14


    lufties wrote: »
    I've been seeing this phrase crop up here and there but am not sure what it means. To hazard a guess I would say the mentality of 'don't get above your station' and generally a narrow minded ignorant view of the world, without the power to be able to think critically.
    That and a bit of obsequeisness around anyone with a whiff of power. Tugging the forelock etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    qt3.14 wrote: »
    Tugging the forelock etc

    Thinly disguised fapping thread. First of 2015. Well done AH.









    I do actually know what a forelock is.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Liv Low Undershirt


    WHAT A PEASANT KIND OF QUESTION TO ASK


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Liv Low Undershirt


    I duno I'd have to see it in context to see what they meant

    some kind of put down anyway I guess


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 234 ✭✭Dirty Steve


    Phrases like that are meant to keep people in their place.

    Those to be kept in their place are less likely to rise up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭the dark phantom


    lufties wrote: »
    I've been seeing this phrase crop up here and there but am not sure what it means. To hazard a guess I would say the mentality of 'don't get above your station' and generally a narrow minded ignorant view of the world, without the power to be able to think critically.

    A good read of the "What's so great about Australia ?" thread should answer your question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,055 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Someone who continually tries to castigate people from a certain area would have a "peasant mentality" in my opinion. People from that area seem to be always on his mind and he obviously feels threatened or inferior to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Moffett


    Factory floor banter, ' I could never be a manager, I like to go home and switch off....' as if your manager doesn't, only difference is they're on 80k a year! Always the hardest working folk that say it too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,093 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I'd say a peasant mentality is not so much someone who is put down as someone who does not want to lift himself up. Its easier to sit in the mud and whinge about the unfairness of life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Well, if you have to ask...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    none of your business, that's what it is ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    anti-intellectual......fearful of change......parochial......


    ......owns a huge TV (with Sky sports and Sky movies in HD) and a PS4 with XBox :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    The mentality shared by anyone who's not a moderator or admin on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    no pheasant jokes? I am dissapoint AH.

    sort of salt of the earth 'tis far from the like of that ye were reared'


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    For me the word "peasant" refers to a state of mind. For example someone who:
    -showers every 3 days
    -doesn't wash his hands in the jacks "because he's clean down there"
    - doesnt consider leaving his seat on the bus to old people

    So generally, people who have the august demeanour of the animals they are most likely descended from, and have intimate knowledge of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    i.e.
    AH regulars?

    lufties wrote: »
    I wrote peasant mentality not deluded holier than thous :D


    Epitome of the peasant mentality right there - someone who wants to be respected for their perceived superiority, but laments the fact that nobody else recognises their apparent genius intellect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,954 ✭✭✭Tail Docker


    Puh, and there's me thinking it's someone who enjoys a good organic Camembert with Three-seed bread and a bottle of earthy Rioja...while siting at their reclaimed French farmers table, reading Country Living..in Hampstead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    sheesh wrote: »
    no pheasant jokes? I am dissapoint AH.

    sort of salt of the earth 'tis far from the like of that ye were reared'

    I'd love some pheasant. Where's me shotgun?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Coronation Street recently. A few of them hadn't been paid. One of them was going to be evicted the next day as he didn't have rent. But yet, is in the Rovers every night of the week. I know it's not real, but there are people like that. Living from hand to mouth, with no clue how to budget. The kids go hungry, but they have the newest Nike Airmax, and they more than likely have a football jersey on too, and have a TV like a cinema screen screen in a two bedroomed house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    I'd love some pheasant. Where's me shotgun?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭AdFundum


    Peasant quality/mentality - once used often in Irish literary circles especially during the revival led by Yeats and Gregory - my four green fields, the playboy, sean bhean bhocht and all that.

    It's a romantic notion of illiterate savage turns poet - think Patrick Kavanagh or Rousseau.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    AdFundum wrote: »
    Peasant quality/mentality - once used often in Irish literary circles especially during the revival led by Yeats and Gregory - my four green fields, the playboy, sean bhean bhocht and all that.

    It's a romantic notion of illiterate savage turns poet - think Patrick Kavanagh or Rousseau.


    "Stony grey soil" immediately springs to mind as a very apt example of the peasant mentality -



    Stony Grey Soil - Patrick Kavanagh




    O stony grey soil of Monaghan
    The laugh from my love you thieved;
    You took the the gay child of my passion
    And gave me your clod-conceived.

    You clogged the feet of my boyhood
    And I believed that my stumble
    Had the poise and stride of Apollo
    And his voice my thick-tongued mumble.

    You told me the plough was immortal!
    O green-life-conquering plough!
    Your mandril strained, your coulter blunted
    In the smooth lea-field of my brow.

    You sang on steaming dunghills
    A song of coward's brood,
    You perfumed my clothes with weasel itch,
    You fed me on swinish food.

    You flung a ditch on my vision
    Of beauty, love and truth.
    O stony grey soil of Monaghan
    You burgled my bank of youth!

    Lost the long hours of pleasure
    All the women that love young men.
    O can I still stroke the monster's back
    Or write with unpoisened pen

    His name in these lonely verses
    Or mention the dark fields where
    The first gay flight of my lyric
    Got caught in a peasant's prayer.

    Mullahinsha, Drummeril, Black Shanco -
    Wherever I turn I see
    In the stony grey soil of Monaghan
    Dead loves that were born for me.



    Christ he was one bitter bastard :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    It's often what you call people- that are 'trapped ' in the 'hellhole' of Ireland - that have the temerity to look bored about your 7 hour emigrant tales in the pub over Christmas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    sheesh wrote: »
    no pheasant jokes? I am dissapoint AH.

    sort of salt of the earth 'tis far from the like of that ye were reared'

    Can't say pheasant jokes are that popular?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Akin to the gentry mentality of the average Indo reading golden circle party supporter I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Person incessantly afraid that their mud cabin will be burnt down and their subsistence crop destroyed.

    Eg fearful, deferential and with very narrow horizons owing to poverty.

    #literalanswer

    (I love hashtags)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Oink wrote: »
    So generally, people who have the august demeanour of the animals they are most likely descended from.
    So peasants believe in facts and the rest are creationists? Is that it? :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    I see it as those that live from hand to mouth and dont have aspirations of more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭AdFundum


    The bread and butter politics that is the entirety of Irish politics - more funding for Opera please!

    Oh, economists - dismally disseminating their dismal science - damn peasants.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Molester Stallone II


    Epitome of the peasant mentality right there - someone who wants to be respected for their perceived superiority, but laments the fact that nobody else recognises their apparent genius intellect.

    Who was it that called Paddy Kavanagh bitter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Who was it that called Paddy Kavanagh bitter?


    Ah that wasn't referring to you Molester, I was only including your post for context. It was luftie's reply I was referring to as the peasant mentality by referring to AH regulars as "holier than thous", while starting threads in AH looking for opinions.

    It's the equivalent of Patrick Kavanagh who was bitter about the fact that he felt his superior intellect was never recognised by his peers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    anncoates wrote: »
    It's often what you call people- that are 'trapped ' in the 'hellhole' of Ireland - that have the temerity to look bored about your 7 hour emigrant tales in the pub over Christmas.

    Jesus that doesn't make any sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    Ah that wasn't referring to you Molester, I was only including your post for context. It was luftie's reply I was referring to as the peasant mentality by referring to AH regulars as "holier than thous", while starting threads in AH looking for opinions.

    It's the equivalent of Patrick Kavanagh who was bitter about the fact that he felt his superior intellect was never recognised by his peers.


    It was a bloody joke, but there certainly are holier than thous on this that will shout you down for having an opinion different to 'the norm'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,093 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    lufties wrote: »
    It was a bloody joke, but there certainly are holier than thous on this that will shout you down for having an opinion different to 'the norm'.

    You'll be ok so! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Diemos


    Moffett wrote: »
    Factory floor banter, ' I could never be a manager, I like to go home and switch off....' as if your manager doesn't, only difference is they're on 80k a year! Always the hardest working folk that say it too?
    I think you are misunderstanding their position, they are not saying that they think their managers do not switch off, they are saying that if they were in that position, they could not switch off as the lazy co-workers on the floor would annoy them so much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    katemarch wrote: »
    Person incessantly afraid that their mud cabin will be burnt down and their subsistence crop destroyed.

    Eg fearful, deferential and with very narrow horizons owing to poverty.

    #literalanswer

    (I love hashtags)

    Sinn Feiners essentially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    looksee wrote: »
    I'd say a peasant mentality is not so much someone who is put down as someone who does not want to lift himself up. Its easier to sit in the mud and whinge about the unfairness of life.

    More that it's someone who is slightly above the bottom and hates those at the bottom, because he fears becoming one of them. (Bear in mind that in former times there were lots of people worse off than peasants - landless labourers, vagrants, migrant workers etc.)


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