15-year-old dead and four others injured in Dublin crash

AboutaWeekAgo

To be honest I think it would be best if this thread got locked. Seems to be a lot of people reveling in the whole situation and posting unnecessary comments. Wouldn't be the nicest thing for any family members or friends to stumble accross.

kippy

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Thankfully no innocent person was mowed down, driving around Dublin with no license or insurance where there are people everywhere with the potientel to be knocked down is criminal behaviour.

This goes way beyond "making a mistake".

Well it is criminal behaviour and cannot and should not be condoned. However it doesnt deserve the treatment it has gotten here either.

degrassinoel

shruikan2553 wrote: »

Theres mistakes and theres illegal life threatening mistakes. We all made mistakes but rarely does someone do something as dangerous to others.

First off, was the car stolen or did it belong to the chap's parents?

Secondly, teenagers do dumb stuff regularly, i did, you did (not asking you how old ye are, I'm assuming), we all did. I've done things in clumsiness that could have turned fatal in a heartbeat only for dumb luck.

You're making an assumption that the chap went out and robbed a car to joyride in, I'm making the assumption that he did what lots of kids do, and borrowed the family car for a quick rally around the block before the parents got home.

Does it even matter? The guy is dead now and his family and friends are left to pick up to the pieces for Christmas.

That's the real tragedy as i see it. Not the stupidity of the act, the result of the act.

I'm glad that ye are all so perfect and will raise perfect children. It must feel great. Well done.

Fcuk me there are some sick posts in this thread. I'd rather have empathy than perfect little princes and princesses.

fiacha

What would you do (seriously) to the remaining kids?

Make the survivors attend the dead lads autopsy.
Publish their names in papers and on road safety billboards.
Everyone in the car gets the same custodial sentence.

The message to people should be that by participating in drunk / drug driving or joying, they are ALL responsible for any damages or deaths caused.

Little CuChulainn

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm glad that ye are all so perfect and will raise perfect children. It must feel great. Well done.

Fcuk me there are some sick posts in this thread. I'd rather have empathy than perfect little princes and princesses.

I reserve my empathy for the victims of joyriders.

Jawgap

degrassinoel wrote: »

First off, was the car stolen or did it belong to the chap's parents?

Secondly, teenagers do dumb stuff regularly, i did, you did (not asking you how old ye are, I'm assuming), we all did. I've done things in clumsiness that could have turned fatal in a heartbeat only for dumb luck.

You're making an assumption that the chap went out and robbed a car to joyride in, I'm making the assumption that he did what lots of kids do, and borrowed the family car for a quick rally around the block before the parents got home.

Does it even matter? The guy is dead now and his family and friends are left to pick up to the pieces for Christmas.

That's the real tragedy as i see it. Not the stupidity of the act, the result of the act.

Ownership is irrelevant (it was not stolen) - the question is whether they had permission to take the car, which they couldn't have because unless they changed the law on Friday, none of them were of an age that would have permitted them to be legally driving that vehicle.

That means, they were uninsured.

The simple fact is that a completely avoidable tragedy has occurred and it is difficult to be sympathetic towards someone who blatantly went out and gave two fingers to important road safety provisions that are there to protect everyone - including people from themselves.

He didn't deserve to die, and it's terrible for friends and family - and, as I said earlier, the emergency and medical services who were forced to deal with the consequences of their selfishness.

GalwayGuitar

Darwin award candidate?

Little CuChulainn

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I reserve my empathy for the victims of joyriders.

Their families are the victims ffs

eviltwin

I find it hard to feel sorry for people who take a car out for a joyride knowing the risks. Even at 15 you know the risks. But 15 is young, many a teenage tearaway grew up to see the error of their ways and change the way they lived. Who knows what this young man might have been? Maybe he would have been a career criminal and waster but maybe he might have copped on and made something of himself. Now he'll forever be known as that kid who killed himself during a joyride. I have a lot of sympathy for the owner of the car who didn't deserve this and for the family of the deceased. Hopefully the survivors will get a wake up call and choose a different path and at least something good might come from this.

EazyD

The comments suggesting this is "normal teenage antics" are genuinely hard to believe. I was far from perfect at that age but never ever would I contemplate doing something so stupid.

I was young and naive but nowhere near stupid enough to endanger other people. If it was your family at the receiving end of the collision I'm sure your sympathy would wear thin fairly sharp.

MagicMarker

Absolutely no one deserves to die over this, and it's a tragic end. But at least they didn't kill an innocent.

Sauve

Right. That's enough insensitive nastiness. Some posters have made some valid and measured points here, but a few have ruined it for everyone else.
How low can you go tbh...