Army cadetship

mallow98

Hi all,

just looking for some advice,

I am going to apply after my LC for a cadetship, what are my chances of getting through without a degree? Do they take on many people straight out of school ?

And do they look for any certain degrees or is it just any degree they are after?

Thanks !

mallow98

mallow98 wrote: »

Hi all,

just looking for some advice,

I am going to apply after my LC for a cadetship, what are my chances of getting through without a degree? Do they take on many people straight out of school ?

And do they look for any certain degrees or is it just any degree they are after?

Thanks !

Anyone ?

jonon9

You might stand a better chance of getting an answer in the military section on the forum. Hope that helps.

Nody

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OP; I think you'll find more answers in this forum. Please note a new charter is in effect.

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mallow98

Thanks for that never knew there was a military forum, sorry for any inconvenience .

mallow98

anyone have any info ?

Topper Harley

mallow98 wrote: »

Hi all,

just looking for some advice,

I am going to apply after my LC for a cadetship, what are my chances of getting through without a degree? Do they take on many people straight out of school ?

And do they look for any certain degrees or is it just any degree they are after?

Thanks !

If you haven't already read it, most of the information you'll need about the cadetship is here, and information about the competition is here.

They do take on school leavers and then send them to college after they've completed their cadetship but obviously having a degree in advance is an advantage. At your age, you can apply after your LC and if you don't get in, go to college. While in college, you can keep applying and if you haven't been accepted by the time you finish college, you'll now have the advantage of being a graduate and you'll have experience of what the cadetship competition is like and you'll have shown your commitment and determination to earn a place.

Regarding which degree, it doesn't really matter. They need people with all kinds of skills so better to just do one you'll enjoy/be good at.

mallow98

thanks! great info

mallow98

thanks! great info, just one final thing does anyone know what the group assesment consists of ?

Topper Harley

For the group assessment you'll be split into small groups and given a hypothetical situation which you have to discuss and come up with a plan within a certain time frame.

mallow98

thanks

ambochaser

OP I have plenty of experience in the Field of applying for cadetships ,

Pm me if you need exact info ,

My family have serious contacts within the DF especially the Air Corps ,if you interested in that I can arrange and mock interviews .

If you are ever in Athlone or Galway we can show you around the Medivac 139 Heli

alistair spuds

mallow98 wrote: »

Hi all,

just looking for some advice,

I am going to apply after my LC for a cadetship, what are my chances of getting through without a degree? Do they take on many people straight out of school ?

And do they look for any certain degrees or is it just any degree they are after?

Thanks !

As the Irish DF is small and the demand high, completion for places is extremely tough, they literally have their pick from thousands of applicants. What they are really looking for is someone with exceptional leaving cert results and combined with proven exceptional athletic ability, i.e. county team, important local/county athletic competition wins etc, national gaisce awards etc. A college degree is not necessarily required at all, as they always like to take in a significant number straight from school in order to more easily mould young minds into the DF way of thinking, and then send you onto the particular university and courses they specifically wish you to attend for their benefit.

If you're not in that top 0.1 % then don't dismiss a career in the rest of the DF, it can often be just as rewarding for the right type of person, and has many advantages over a commission. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking a cadetship is the be all and end all, and if they don't make that they give up. It’s far from it.

Also if you are not tied to Ireland, you can have an excellent career with a reputable military abroad. For a long term career in any military, I would concentrate on achieving and then maintaining, both educational and athletic ability. In fact it’s a lifelong requirement for military service, it doesn't stop when you get in.

mallow98

alistair spuds wrote: »

As the Irish DF is small and the demand high, completion for places is extremely tough, they literally have their pick from thousands of applicants. What they are really looking for is someone with extremely good leaving cert results and combined with proven top athletic ability, i.e. county team, local athletic competition wins etc, gaisce awards etc. A college degree is not necessarily required at all, as they always like to take in a significant number straight from school in order to more easily mould young minds into the DF way of thinking, and then send onto the university and course they wish you to attend for their benefit.

If you're not in that top 0.1 % then don't dismiss a career in the rest of the DF, it can often be just as rewarding for the right type of person, and has many advantages over a commission. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking a cadetship is the be all and end all, and if they don't make that they give up. It’s far from it.

Also if you are not tied to Ireland, you can have an excellent career with a reputable military abroad. For a long term career in any military, I would concentrate on education and athletic ability. In fact its a life long requirement for the military.

ok thanks , i play gaa all of my life, represented ireland in sea angling aswell so that should help ! study hard for the leaving so and take it from there , thanks for the reply !

mallow98

alistair spuds wrote: »

As the Irish DF is small and the demand high, completion for places is extremely tough, they literally have their pick from thousands of applicants. What they are really looking for is someone with extremely good leaving cert results and combined with proven top athletic ability, i.e. county team, local athletic competition wins etc, gaisce awards etc. A college degree is not necessarily required at all, as they always like to take in a significant number straight from school in order to more easily mould young minds into the DF way of thinking, and then send onto the university and course they wish you to attend for their benefit.

If you're not in that top 0.1 % then don't dismiss a career in the rest of the DF, it can often be just as rewarding for the right type of person, and has many advantages over a commission. A lot of people make the mistake of thinking a cadetship is the be all and end all, and if they don't make that they give up. It’s far from it.

Also if you are not tied to Ireland, you can have an excellent career with a reputable military abroad. For a long term career in any military, I would concentrate on education and athletic ability. In fact its a life long requirement for the military.

ok thanks , i have played gaa all of my life, represented ireland in sea angling aswell so that should help ! study hard for the leaving so and take it from there , thanks for the reply !

ambochaser

ok with the basic education requirements , but thats all they are BASIC , what you need to get a Cadetship is the RITE Stuff in terms of contacts with the people who matter .

Get involved with their PR depts , send them in photos of yourself getting involved in sports , military shows , air shows , lifeboat demos etc/

Also if you live near a hospital where the medivac helis land , get some selfies with the helis and the crews , your name and your face will soon get around .

The Pad at UCHG is usually busy , a great photo opp ,

I personally have made a name for myself there .

Savage93

ambochaser wrote: »

ok with the basic education requirements , but thats all they are BASIC , what you need to get a Cadetship is the RITE Stuff in terms of contacts with the people who mtter .

Get involved with their PR depts , send them in photos of yourself getting involved in sports , military shows , air shows , lifeboat demos etc/

Also if you live near a hospital where the medivac helis land , get some selfies with the helis and the crews , your name and your face will soon get around .

The Pad at UCHG is usually busy , a great photo opp ,

I personally have made a name for myself there .

WELL WELL WELL , The return of Hopperdave, Chopperdave, *Investment and many other looney persons. I've missed you and your nutcase opinions and stories.
OP, completely disregard ALL advice (ha ha ha) from this source. This lad is seriously deluded at best.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

ambochaser

Savage , you are only jealous of me , my family and my contacts .


DF PR section pay me for my services, do they pay you ?

Savage93

ambochaser wrote: »

Savage , you are only jealous of me , my family and my contacts .


DF PR section pay me for my services, do they pay you ?

I don't think the DF is that hard up to need your talents ( and never will be )

Is this why you have been banned from Aviation and aircraft and emergency services already, you nutcase you :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

ambochaser

Are you calling a member of the DF a nutcase ?

Savage93

ambochaser wrote: »

Are you calling a member of the DF a nutcase ?

Don't you mean RDF???? you wannabee.
As for giving advice on cadetships do you want to tell the OP how many times you washed out and why????

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

ambochaser

RDF is still DF .

I still have all my DF connections , where they matter ,

Savage93

ambochaser wrote: »

RDF is still DF .

I still have all my DF connections , where they matter ,

Yeah Yeah Yeah you still have all your DF connections where they matter, in your head :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Snowc

Savage93 wrote: »

WELL WELL WELL , The return of Hopperdave, Chopperdave, *Investment and many other looney persons. I've missed you and your nutcase opinions and stories.
OP, completely disregard ALL advice (ha ha ha) from this source. This lad is seriously deluded at best.
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

He sets up a new account nearly every week a real walter mitty ....some of his post over the frequencydb where complete mad before he was banned:pac:

Savage93

ambochaser wrote: »

RDF is still DF .

I still have all my DF connections , where they matter ,

Absolutely no disrespect meant to RDF


I know you still have all your DF connections where they matter, IN YOUR HEAD

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

ambochaser

I come on here , to offer my advice help and allow use of my connections at the top and the usual accusations of mental illness are made .

Im sure there is a law against such discrimination ,

I fully intend to exercise my rights in this regard ,

Savage93

ambochaser wrote: »

I come on here , to offer my advice help and allow use of my connections at the top and the usual accusations of mental illness are made .

Im sure there is a law against such discrimination ,

I fully intend to exercise my rights in this regard ,

Ah come on Dave, your history on boards is hilarious, how many times have you been banned in all your various guises/characters/people in your head??????
Anybody taking your advice should seek help themselves.
Care to answer the question asked???????

ambochaser

Probably about a dozen times Id say ,
Thats not my problem . i communicate on a different level , Im not understood .


My career in the RDF is beyond reproach , my daytime job as a paramedic gets me huge respect ,and money

Most importantly my lucrative pastimes are the envey of all .

Is that the life of a mad looser ???

Manic Moran

ambochaser wrote: »

Probably about a dozen times Id say ,
Thats not my problem . i communicate on a different level , Im not understood

[Mod]Perhaps you are, but either way, it's disruptive to here.

Make a useless troll post like the one at 13:15 and you're gone from here like you are from aviation. I remember you from some time ago, I didn't ban you last time, but I won't be mucking around with temp bans either.[/Mod]

Topper Harley

ambochaser wrote: »

Probably about a dozen times Id say ,
Thats not my problem . i communicate on a different level , Im not understood .


My career in the RDF is beyond reproach , my daytime job as a paramedic gets me huge respect ,and money

Most importantly my lucrative pastimes are the envey of all .

Is that the life of a mad looser ???

Men want to be him, women want to be with him.

Topper Harley

Manic Moran wrote: »

Make a useless troll post like the one at 13:15 and you're gone from here like you are from aviation.

Maybe in California time.

Topper Harley

alistair spuds wrote: »

As the Irish DF is small and the demand high, completion for places is extremely tough, they literally have their pick from thousands of applicants. What they are really looking for is someone with exceptional leaving cert results and combined with proven exceptional athletic ability...

Yes competition is tough but it's not necessarily exceptional leaving cert results that they're looking for (obviously they don't hurt though). They're looking for all rounders and there are much better ways of showing that than some letters on a page saying how you did in some exams. Once you meet the minimum educational requirements, you've put yourself in a position to prove yourself.

alistair spuds

Topper Harley wrote: »

Yes competition is tough but it's not necessarily exceptional leaving cert results that they're looking for (obviously they don't hurt though). They're looking for all rounders and there are much better ways of showing that than some letters on a page saying how you did in some exams. Once you meet the minimum educational requirements, you've put yourself in a position to prove yourself.

Re read my post more carefully, I didn't say that at all.
They are not looking for all rounders, they are looking for exceptional all rounders, and that means exceptional, clearly proven, athletic AND academic ability. And that's exactly what they will get. That won't be any different this year. There are several thousand applicants each and every year, and only 30-40 positions in an average cadet class, depending on the year.

Topper Harley

alistair spuds wrote: »

Re read my post more carefully, I didn't say that at all.

I didn't mean to start a debate with you, I just wanted to reassure people interested in a cadetship that they have every chance of proving themselves even without "exceptional leaving cert results".

Topper Harley

Brian O'Connell at the Cadet School on RTE Radio 1 - Today with Sean O'Rourke. Worth a listen for any aspiring cadets. (14 mins)

alistair spuds

Topper Harley wrote: »

I didn't mean to start a debate with you, I just wanted to reassure people interested in a cadetship that they have every chance of proving themselves even without "exceptional leaving cert results".

Provided they are not under the impression that an above average leaving cert. will cut the grade without having several other compensatory, relevant (relevant also being a key word), exceptional and proven achievements under your belt. In other words you are on the back foot and having to make it up in other areas straight away. By the very same token an exceptional leaving cert or degree on its own won't cut the grade either. They are not looking for merely above average in everything, or some things. That's what any 15-16 year old aspiring for a cadetship and looking for advice how to prepare, badly needs to know. Regardless if you are a leaving cert student or a graduate, you will be competing against several thousand other aspiring people already with above average attainments, and very similar backgrounds, for a very limited number of places. The time for working on that is now.

Savage93

ambochaser wrote: »

Probably about a dozen times Id say ,
Thats not my problem . i communicate on a different level , Im not understood .


My career in the RDF is beyond reproach , my daytime job as a paramedic gets me huge respect ,and money

Most importantly my lucrative pastimes are the envey of all .

Is that the life of a mad looser ???

"Maybe try to get your hands on some emergency services clothing so as to blend in .
You can always claim you are a "PARAMEDIC" Ive been gettin away with that one for ages ."
This was your statement on emergency services before your ban and you say you are not deluded.:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:

mallow98

alistair spuds wrote: »

Provided they are not under the impression that an above average leaving cert. will cut the grade without having several other compensatory, relevant (relevant also being a key word), exceptional and proven achievements under your belt. In other words you are on the back foot and having to make it up in other areas straight away. By the very same token an exceptional leaving cert or degree on its own won't cut the grade either. They are not looking for merely above average in everything, or some things. That's what any 15-16 year old aspiring for a cadetship and looking for advice how to prepare, badly needs to know. Regardless if you are a leaving cert student or a graduate, you will be competing against several thousand other aspiring people already with above average attainments, and very similar backgrounds, for a very limited number of places. The time for working on that is now.

what kind of things would you work at? like leadership qualitites and stuff? what things would be good for leadership i know gaa would be a big one

Manic Moran

Savage93 wrote: »

Don't you mean RDF???? you wannabee.

[Mod]
Oh, I missed this one the first time around. I don't react well to disparagement of the reserve components.

Savage93

Manic Moran wrote: »

[Mod]
Oh, I missed this one the first time around. I don't react well to disparagement of the reserve components.

See my post at 22.12.
I have the utmost respect for all who serve, full time or part time, with the defence forces or emergency services. I did 10 years myself with the RDF.
MY comment was disparaging to the poster , not the RDF as explained in my post of 22.12 on 29/12/14.

:):)