When did the Legion of Mary take over school uniform policy?

Jimmy Garlic

When I was going to secondary school in the mid to late 90s all the girls wore skirts above the knee. Now they are almost wearing burkas. Why did this happen? There was nothing at all with short skirts, they were grand.

Annasopra

Why do schools still force girls to wear skirts?

byhookorbycrook

Some schools in Limerick always had big long (expensive) skirts since the 80s.

Jimmy Garlic

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Why do schools still force girls to wear skirts?

There is nothing wrong with a bit of femininity. It isn't Chairman Maos China we are in.

eviltwin

Depends on the school. My daughter has the option of trousers and my son has a no uniform policy. My old uniform was like something a nun would wear, still unchanged twenty years later.

Isolt

creepy thread

anonyanony

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Why do schools still force girls to wear skirts?

They don't and long skirts where the fashion in my school in the 90's usually with a pair of doc Martin boots, skirt length changes with the time

Annasopra

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with a bit of femininity. It isn't Chairman Maos China we are in.

Theres nothing wrong with girls choosing themselves

Annasopra

anonyanony wrote: »

They don't

Yes they do!

The_Valeyard

Slightly misleading thread title.


I just thought schools were opting for the female kilt look.

No biggie. I'm sure they can wear pants if they wanted to.

anonyanony

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Yes they do!

None of the schools around here do half the girls wear pants.

eviltwin

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Slightly misleading thread title.


I just thought schools were opting for the female kilt look.

No biggie. I'm sure they can wear pants if they wanted to.

Most single sex girls school don't give a choice.

The_Valeyard

eviltwin wrote: »

Most single sex girls school don't give a choice.

Cousins went to a single sex school, had a choice.

The girls school in the next town has a choice.

Say very few schools would not allow a choice between the kilt or trousers.

The Backwards Man

I'd love to wear a skirt.

The_Valeyard

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'd love to wear a skirt.

You would look fantastic in a Burka.

anncoates

I went to school in Dublin in the 80s and never remember girls school uniform skirts being above the knee.

You may be thinking of St Trinians or specialist porn.

anonyanony

The_Valeyard wrote: »

You would look fantastic in a Burka.

Everyone looks good in a burka it hides all your flaws unless you are a hamplanet

endacl

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I'd love to wear a skirt.

What's stoppin' ya?!?

AlekSmart

anncoates wrote: »

I went to school in Dublin in the 80s and never remember girls school uniform skirts being above the knee.

You may be thinking of St Trinians or specialist porn.

Porn...?...Yes madam we have a wide selection....Train Porn....Leg Fetish,or would Madam pefer a combination of the two...?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22828150

Jimmy Garlic

anncoates wrote: »

You may be thinking of St Trinians or specialist porn.

Certainly not. It was the norm when I was going to school.

The_Valeyard

endacl wrote: »

What's stoppin' ya?!?

His thick hairy legs. So much pressure to shave.

The_Valeyard

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Certainly not. It was the norm when I was going to school.

In Ireland? Nearly all Irish schools I thought were kilt based. Usually the ones in the UK or up North had the short dresses.

languagenerd

I went to an all girl's school in Dublin until 2009, we had to wear skirts (no option of trousers). Ours were knee-length or thereabouts; some schools in Limerick have weeeird floor-length ones.

My school was crazily strict about uniforms though.

anncoates

The_Valeyard wrote: »

In Ireland? Nearly all Irish schools I thought were kilt based. Usually the ones in the UK or up North had the short dresses.

This.

Sexless gaberdine coat optional.

eviltwin

Old style skirts were long, girls just rolled them up

Jimmy Garlic

The_Valeyard wrote: »

In Ireland? Nearly all Irish schools I thought were kilt based. Usually the ones in the UK or up North had the short dresses.

Of course it was in Ireland. I remember it well.

The Backwards Man

endacl wrote: »

What's stoppin' ya?!?

The price of the fcukers. A fancy skirt, tights or stockings, razors and moistuiriser for the legs, fancy undies for a windy day.

I'm more yhan happy with my fiver ASDA jeans, thank you muchly.

The_Valeyard

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Of course it was in Ireland. I remember it well.

Do you remember whereabouts in the country this was?

Jimmy Garlic

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Do you remember whereabouts in the country this was?

Co Limerick, out in the country.

JupiterKid

My older sister was commenting that the uniform for her old school hadn't changed a bit since she was there 30 years ago. Schools need to move with the times methinks.

In the last two years of my secondary school we didn't have to wear the uniform but the clothes had to be smart - no jeans for starters.

The_Valeyard

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Co Limerick, out in the country.

And your sure this really happened?

anncoates

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Do you remember whereabouts in the country this was?

Wankville, Co Imagination.

Jimmy Garlic

The_Valeyard wrote: »

And your sure this really happened?

Of course I am, I am not demented.. Newcastlewest co Limerick, very short skirts.

The_Valeyard

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Of course I am, I am not demented.. Newcastlewest co Limerick, very short skirts.

Fair enough...odd.

Say you were in the minority of schools.

Cause you know short skirts cause pregnancy.

eviltwin

I went to a convent school in the 90's. Other girls schools in the area were convent schools, all had long skirts. The only school I can remember with a normal skirt was the comprehensive.

Goodshape

Went to secondary school in the mid-to-late 90s in Galway, Dublin and Donegal.

In both Galway and Donegal the girls wore knee-length skirts. In Dublin it was ankle-length.

Pretty sure both Dublin and Donegal introduced the option of trousers for the girls during the time I was there too.

Son Of A Vidic

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

When I was going to secondary school in the mid to late 90s all the girls wore skirts above the knee. Now they are almost wearing burkas. Why did this happen?

Since you got early release.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

I left school in 2007, mixed school with option between pants and skirt and literally all of us wore the trousers. From what I remember the girls' schools from nearby tended to wear skirts knee length or above, but definitely around Limerick and in a few other places you'd see the ankle length ones.

hfallada

Its just as bad for men. My school choose the brand of trousers we wore "so everyone had a uniform grey colour trousers". Together with a ****ty woollen jumper, that smelt of wet dog after you got rain on it. It didnt matter if you looked anorexia,our school uniform was so ill-fitting, you looked severely obese with it

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eviltwin wrote: »

my son has a no uniform policy.

Christian Brothers school, is it?

Goodshape

hfallada wrote: »

"so everyone had a uniform grey colour trousers"

But thats... the entire point of having a uniform. They're uniform.

Wouldn't really be a uniform if they were just any old colour trousers.

Yellowblackbird

Goodshape wrote: »

But thats... the entire point of having a uniform. They're uniform.

Wouldn't really be a uniform if they were just any old colour trousers.

A Uniformity of Randomness.


Too late Goodshape. You're trapped now in the twisted logic maze of our paradox web.

feargale

I went to two schools a very long time ago, and in both schools we wore a uniform only on one or two special days e.g. sports day and prize giving day. I have no strong opinion one way or another, but I remember at that time a guy on radio making the case that a school uniform left everybody equal, taking pressure off parents of limited means to pay through the nose so that their kids could compete in the fashion stakes with rich kids.
I've seen the long skirts in Limerick and wondered why. Maybe girls were competing with each other, with skirts getting shorter and shorter until one day a girl turned up all ass and virtually no skirt, and somebody decided a stand had to be taken.
If you think Limerick is bad ask your granny about the apparel of the young women at Carysfort teacher training college ( third level! ) up to the sixties. Burqa indeed! It was designed to conceal every human shape, and the dominant colour was dour black. The women were known to their male colleagues as crows.
Incidentally, in the absence of a link or source the reference to the Legion of Mary in the title is silly and schoolboyish. By all means criticise all and sundry when you can substantiate, but otherwise you make yourself look like somebody barely out of school who wants to kick out at everything.

rainbowdrop

Is the long skirts thing mainly around Limerick then? I never realised they were not really worn around the rest of the country. I assumed it was an all over Ireland thing, as I went to school in the UK.

I live in Co Limerick now, and my daughter has to wear an ankle length blue 'tarten' skirt for school, teamed with brown dubarry deck shoes. I wouldn't have been seen dead in them when I was her age lol!

My uniform in the UK was a very short grey skirt, made even shorter by turning over the waistband 5or6 times.....

rainbowdrop

Is the long skirts thing mainly around Limerick then? I never realised they were not really worn around the rest of the country. I assumed it was an all over Ireland thing, as I went to school in the UK.

I live in Co Limerick now, and my daughter has to wear an ankle length blue 'tarten' skirt for school, teamed with brown dubarry deck shoes. I wouldn't have been seen dead in them when I was her age lol!

My uniform in the UK was a very short grey skirt, made even shorter by turning over the waistband 5or6 times.....

stmol32

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Yes they do!

They really do.

My daughter is a real tom-boy and she was highly annoyed when she started secondary school and realised she couldn't cycle to school because she had to wear what amounted to, in cycling terms, a highland kilt down to her ankles.

The school has a pretty good monitored bike shed but half the students can't possibly use it because they're not allowed wear a pair of trousers because....bishops and stuff I suppose.

The Strawman Argument

Skirts of any length were optional for girls in my school (everyone just wore trousers though) until a girl who moved to the area came in wearing extremely an extremely short skirt. No clue whether they ever confronted her about it directly but the rules were immediately changed so that they had to be of a similar length to trousers (ankle length, I guess) after that.

Aglomerado

rainbowdrop wrote: »

I live in Co Limerick now, and my daughter has to wear an ankle length blue 'tarten' skirt for school, teamed with brown dubarry deck shoes. I wouldn't have been seen dead in them when I was her age lol!

The ankle length skirts seem to be unique to Limerick. My old secondary school (Clare) had the same colour uniform as Laurel Hill but we wore skirts to just below the knee. Some girls in my year got the Laurel Hill skirt (warmer?)instead from Gemma's uniforms on Henry Street in Limerick and our teachers didn't mind those.

We had to wear a grey serge wool tunic with a grey gabardine coat or a blazer in the summer or if we were representing the school, and all toped off with a grey beret that had the school crest on the front. The uniform cost a fortune and if it got wet it stunk to high heaven. We also had to have indoor and outdoor shoes and uniform inspections.

Mal-Adjusted

When I was in secondary school, the girls all had those long skirts that went almost to the ground. They brought in the option of trousers and a skirt was never seen again. The lads all loved it too because the girls all typically wore a size too small for them and lads would gawk at their arses. There may also have been a few...incidents...revolving around skirts

Ours were above the knee. A lot of us wore the tracksuit all day on warmer summer days when we were still in.
I've seen schools with both tiny, tiny short skirts and ankle length ones, maybe they have a choice