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Bill Murray will win an Oscar in his lifetime. Who else?

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    #62
    FloatingVoter
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    gene_slackman wrote: »
    anthony hopkins should have won that year for remains of the day

    Amazed you didn't pick Laurence Fishburne as Ike Turner in Whats Love Gotta Do With It. Violent wifebeater vs. lonely butler (both men could play those parts in their sleep and they did). But the Academy was right - it gave Schindler's a sweep apart from a gong for Tom Hanks.


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    #63
    Northern Monkey
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    I still don't know how Murray didn't get one for caddy shack.


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    #64
    FloatingVoter
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    Northern Monkey wrote: »
    I still don't know how Murray didn't get one for caddy shack.

    ...and Chevy Chase was robbed for Best Supporting. When we inherit the great big growhouse in the sky, these things will be fixed.


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    #65
    don ramo
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    we could list over 100 people who should and really have deserved an oscar, i think its all bull**** run by the weinsteins, its far to political,

    the final straw for me was when Melissa McCarthy got nominated a few years ago for taking a **** in a sink in bridesmaids, utterly ridiculous, i actually liked her in mike and molly but went off her after that, she just started trying to hard, playing the stereotype through the stratosphere,

    i like awards season mainly to find a few films that truly deserve my attention, the outsider lists always read better than the insiders,


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    #66
    Mike Litoris
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    don ramo wrote: »
    the final straw for me was when Melissa McCarthy got nominated a few years ago for taking a **** in a sink in bridesmaids, utterly ridiculous, i actually liked her in mike and molly but went off her after that, she just started trying to hard, playing the stereotype through the stratosphere,

    I thought she was pretty damn good in St Vincent. Would love to see her getting some more serious roles.

    Anyways, I'll shout for Guy Peirce and (gulp!) Christian Bale. :D I still cant get enough of him in American Psycho.


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    #67
    ciaranlong
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    Dan Aykroyd for My Girl :-)


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    #68
    dark crystal
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    Mike Litoris wrote: »
    I thought she was pretty damn good in St Vincent. Would love to see her getting some more serious roles.

    Anyways, I'll shout for Guy Peirce and (gulp!) Christian Bale. :D I still cant get enough of him in American Psycho.

    Christian Bale already won an Oscar for The Fighter.


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    #69
    IamNotNumber
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    Edward Norton,.had to check wiki and hes never won one.Hes an amazing actor and has starred in some of my favorite films 25th hour,american history x and the illusionist.


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    #70
    FortuneChip
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    IamNotNumber wrote: »
    Edward Norton,.had to check wiki and hes never won one.Hes an amazing actor and has starred in some of my favorite films 25th hour,american history x and the illusionist.

    I thought he seemed a little lazy in The Illusionist, but his performance is AHX is fantastic. It pretty much knocked me over.
    25th Hour is very good, as is Primal Fear. Dont forget Death To Smoochy!!!
    It's been a while since I've seen him hit his previous form (although Moonrise was really enjoyable) but I'm hoping for a good return to that in The Birdman


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    #71
    IamNotNumber
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    FortuneChip wrote: »
    I thought he seemed a little lazy in The Illusionist, but his performance is AHX is fantastic. It pretty much knocked me over.
    25th Hour is very good, as is Primal Fear. Dont forget Death To Smoochy!!!
    It's been a while since I've seen him hit his previous form (although Moonrise was really enjoyable) but I'm hoping for a good return to that in The Birdman

    'Death To Smoochy,Moonrise'

    Haven't seen those yet.Agreed AHX would be high on everyone's list I imagine .Loved the illusionist as a film,dont understand why it got less than universal acclaim,everything was perfect imo,the cast,the acting sets,the ending.Yip Ed is definitely due alot more recognition.


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    #72
    Bipolar Joe
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    I kind of assumed Norton had an oscar. Great actor! He was amazing in Fight Club, the first thing I saw him in, and had to watch everything else I could find of his.


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    #73
    Mike Litoris
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    dark crystal wrote: »
    Christian Bale already won an Oscar for The Fighter.


    Are we not talking about the big one and not the supporting role?


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    #74
    dark crystal
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    Mike Litoris wrote: »
    Are we not talking about the big one and not the supporting role?

    Don't think so, going by the thread title. I just assumed it meant an acting Oscar.


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    #75
    FortuneChip
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    Bipolar Joe wrote: »
    I kind of assumed Norton had an oscar. Great actor! He was amazing in Fight Club, the first thing I saw him in, and had to watch everything else I could find of his.

    How on earth did I leave out Fight Club?


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    #76
    Slutmonkey57b
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    Bill Murray is a lazy actor who plays Bill Murray in every film, and Bill Murray isn't actually that funny. His supporting casts usually provide most of the laughs. He's not much of a step up from Adam Sandler, really.


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    #77
    IvaBigWun
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    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    Bill Murray is a lazy actor who plays Bill Murray in every film, and Bill Murray isn't actually that funny. His supporting casts usually provide most of the laughs. He's not much of a step up from Adam Sandler, really.

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    #78
    john the one
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    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    Bill Murray is a lazy actor who plays Bill Murray in every film, and Bill Murray isn't actually that funny. His supporting casts usually provide most of the laughs. He's not much of a step up from Adam Sandler, really.

    I call bs on this. Adam Sandler should not even be mentioned in the same sentence ever again unless it is: Bill Murray kills Adam Sandler with a golf club


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    #79
    ancapailldorcha
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    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    Bill Murray is a lazy actor who plays Bill Murray in every film, and Bill Murray isn't actually that funny. His supporting casts usually provide most of the laughs. He's not much of a step up from Adam Sandler, really.

    Are there even any good Adam Sandler films? I got a few cheap laughs out of Happy Gimore and the Waterboy but they're far from classics.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #80
    ectoraige
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    Dare I say it, Colin Farrell probably has an Oscar in his future. Maybe not for a while, and maybe for a supporting role, and no doubt if he does somebody else will have been "robbed". I don't know how well he does the politics, but he seems well regarded and generous to work with among his peers.


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    #81
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    Adam Sandler has turned in a number of great performances including one in Men, Women & Children which is currently on release in which he is supposed to be one of the few redeeming features of the film. He was also excellent in Reign Over Me, Punch Drunk Love and easily the best thing about Funny People and even some of his less hig brow fare is good fun. I enjoyed Bedtime Stories, love Airheads and have fond memories of Bulletproof and a few others. I'd go so far as to say that if you compare Sandler's performance in Punch Drunk Love to any of the celebrated performances of the past decades then his would stack up very well. The guy is a damn great actor, he's just lazy and seems to like making money.


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    #82
    Slutmonkey57b
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    john the one wrote: »
    I call bs on this. Adam Sandler should not even be mentioned in the same sentence ever again unless it is: Bill Murray kills Adam Sandler with a golf club
    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Are there even any good Adam Sandler films? I got a few cheap laughs out of Happy Gimore and the Waterboy but they're far from classics.

    Rather my point. Name a film in which Bill Murray plays a character who isn't interchangeable from one of his other films. Ghostbusters really hasn't stood the test of time, Groundhog Day is memorable only for its premise, Caddyshack's star is the gopher, Scarlett Johanssen made Lost In Translation interesting.

    In the best case scenario, Murray isn't on screen for long enough to allow him to railroad the enterprise into another bland, tedious Bill Murray film.


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    #83
    ciaranlong
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    It surely only a matter of time for Jessica Chastain to win an Oscar. She's been nominated twice (for The Help and Zero dark Thirty). And put in great performances in The Tree of Life, Lawless, Mama and Interstellar. Her new film, A Most Violent Year, looks really good too.


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    #84
    MfMan
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    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    Rather my point. Name a film in which Bill Murray plays a character who isn't interchangeable from one of his other films. Ghostbusters really hasn't stood the test of time, Groundhog Day is memorable only for its premise, Caddyshack's star is the gopher, Scarlett Johanssen made Lost In Translation interesting.

    In the best case scenario, Murray isn't on screen for long enough to allow him to railroad the enterprise into another bland, tedious Bill Murray film.

    Completely agree. Stick to your guns.....


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    #85
    Iranoutofideas
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    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    Yeah, if I was an actor who was considered among the best I don't think I'd fully feel accomplished until I won an Oscar at least for a supporting role...to be honest even that wouldn't be enough lol, I'd have to get a best actor award.

    I think this would be similar to how Leonardo DiCaprio feels, but if he'd just cop on and try to keep the playboy lifestyle on the quiet side and out of the public press and played more mature and Oscar bait parts he'd win.

    Never did Nicholson any harm?

    Leo deserves an Oscar.


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    #86
    Billy86
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    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    Rather my point. Name a film in which Bill Murray plays a character who isn't interchangeable from one of his other films.
    Lost in Translation. Kingpin. Tootsie.

    Apart from the fact that Bill Murray played them, what do those three characters have in common?


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    Billy86
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    Iranoutofideas wrote: »
    Never did Nicholson any harm?

    Leo deserves an Oscar.
    He's a good actor, but he Di Caprio hasn't given an Oscar worthy performance relative to the competition of that year in my opinion. He has shown good range in some roles (Django being the most recent example) but his characters are often very similar, more so than Nicholson for sure who played a private investigator in Chinatown, a rebel in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, and a grumpy/lonely old man in As Good As It Gets, each character with a lot of different mannerisms and actions.

    The main problem I have with Di Caprio is that he essentially plays a hotshot businessman/man-in-a-suit very often, without too much variance in the character (and very frequently "pushed to his limits") - Blood Diamond, Inception, Shutter Island, Body of Lies, Wolf of Wall Street, J. Edgar and The Departed. He did a good job in The Aviator of course as Howard Hughes descended into madness, but the role of the character at first was again quite similar. It's a bit like De Niro's roles went very 'mobster heavy' through the 90s with Goodfellas, Casino, Heat, Ronin, The Score, etc (and kind of A Bronx Tale where he played a bus driver, but the film itself was again to do with mobsters). Don't get me wrong, I really like Di Caprio but I want to see him push the envelope a bit more often, and that's typically something the Academy award as well, just ironically enough often not for the roles that 'push the envelope' themselves for whatever reason.


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    Slutmonkey57b
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Lost in Translation. Kingpin. Tootsie.

    Apart from the fact that Bill Murray played them, what do those three characters have in common?

    You're asking me what they have in common, apart from what they've got in common? They're all Bill Murray. He shouts louder in one film than in another. He does long rambling self indulgent monologues. Could the character in Kingpin be replaced by the one in Groundhog day? Practically gesture for gesture.


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    john the one
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    Slutmonkey57b wrote: »
    You're asking me what they have in common, apart from what they've got in common? They're all Bill Murray. He shouts louder in one film than in another. He does long rambling self indulgent monologues. Could the character in Kingpin be replaced by the one in Groundhog day? Practically gesture for gesture.

    Unless the role is written for Bill Murray, I think its a testiment to him that he takes a role and makes it his own, you are essentially saying that Bill Murray is Bill Murray, this is because he makes roles his own. Let's be honest, he must be one of if not the most confident actor in hollywood at present bar Pacino!


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    #90
    Nerdlingr
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    I'd go so far as to say that if you compare Sandler's performance in Punch Drunk Love to any of the celebrated performances of the past decades then his would stack up very well.

    Sandler is fantastic in that. Wish he'd try and go back and explore that side of his 'craft'. He played being unhinged very well. I'd love for him to dip into that a bit more.


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    #91
    efb
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    I dont get Bill Murray- lost in translation bored me to tears


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