Why are all the good xmas songs the old ones??

yipeeeee

Most if not all of the classics are from the 70s 80 and 90s.

Is this a sign of the music industry in general or what's the crack with it??

efb

Name 10 classics from each

I'll then give you 10 from 2000-2009

braddun

most music is like that


theres few good ideas,that have not been tried

qt3.14

Zooey deschanel and some crusty jazz guys version of its cold outside is better than three original

biko

Are they?

yipeeeee

efb wrote: »

Name 10 classics from each

I'll then give you 10 from 2000-2009

Well how come in every shop I was in today I just heard all the old ones on repeat?

YouTookMyName

Nothing left to sing about.

Snow, Santa, Winter, Driving, Love, Lost love, Last years love, Last christmases heart, Bells, reindeer, snowmen.

All been done.

efb

yipeeeee wrote: »

Well how come in every shop I was in today I just heard all the old ones on repeat?

Rights issues cheaper to play oldies

Talib Fiasco

Christmas songs are generally horrific regardless of year of release.

ardle1

What decent artist with any self respect would bother their holes penning a 'wonderful' Christmas song, while they know everyone's eyes and ears are on X Factor.....

Anyway the answer to your question is: Because of X Factor.

SaveOurLyric

Its true, but you arent going back far enough, and need to go back to the 50s for the best of them all :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H78cavrhK5E

mountsky

I would imagine that the old stuff is more favourable because its original,for example the Band Aid latest version stuff is just dire for use of a better word

deco nate

Driving home for Christmas - Chris rea
One of the best
Love that song!

scudzilla

Slightly NSFW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od7GUy9XS7c

Macavity.

They make me sad.

dan1895

Play the Christmas song game.
1. Type "Christmas" into you tube.
2. Type the name of any random artist or band and search.
3. Enjoy bizarre festive fun.

Note. Much more fun with a skinful of gargle on board.

catallus

Why are all the good xmas songs the old ones??

It's cos of nostalgia.

qt3.14

Does your Granny always tell you
That the old songs are the best?
Then she's up and rock and rollin' with the rest....

qt3.14 wrote: »

Zooey deschanel and some crusty jazz guys version of its cold outside is better than three original

She & Him. They do a lovely version of "Blue Christmas"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fPyQQ6HgG8

delw

I agree OP,pop culture ruined the crimbo songs especially when that spice girls muck became number ones at christmas ie : nothing christmassy about the song

MsQuinn

What about this?:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8qE6WQmNus

Hachiko

yipeeeee wrote: »

Most if not all of the classics are from the 70s 80 and 90s.

Is this a sign of the music industry in general or what's the crack with it??

take that and olli murs top of uk charts, sums up current music, utter w<nk

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anncoates

Because older generations - generally, but not without exceptions - place more importance on the concept of a Christmas song and as there's a surfeit of classics already to hand, it's not an issue.

we'llallhavetea

yeah i'm gonna say its more than likely because we grew up with the oldies

anncoates

One off tunes (cf:singles) - with the odd exception - just don't pervade on the national conciousness these days as well. You can get a tune to number one by selling a relatively minuscule amount so the old Christmas tunes were literally consumed by millions of people and as such had a hold on the minds onf people (and by extension, their kids) in a way that just doesn't happen these days.

newmug

efb wrote: »

Name 10 classics from each

I'll then give you 10 from 2000-2009

I wouldn't name 10 Christmas songs altogether! But I'm curious to know what your 10 noughties ones are! Indulge us!

Ave Sodalis

newmug wrote: »

I wouldn't name 10 Christmas songs altogether! But I'm curious to know what your 10 noughties ones are! Indulge us!

This be one?

Written over a hundred years ago, but this version of it

newmug

sup_dude wrote: »

This be one?

Written over a hundred years ago, but this version of it

Nope. Nice song, but that is most definitely NOT a noughties Christmas classic.

Ruu

Get cracking on some lyrics and I'll get working on the tune. We'll be millionaires.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VQhuoY5h2kE

Best Christmas song since the pogues.

PizzamanIRL

Naturally, the amount of good ideas for songs diminishes as time goes on because the ideas are being used.

deco nate

Slade... ITS CHRISTMAS!
It may be old, but everyone
Sings it, and knows it's that feel good time of year.
Even if you do have problems
At the time, it will put a smile on your face

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

People used to actually make Christmas songs, then for some reason people became too cool for them and then all the reality show nonsense happened meaning there was never even any challenge for Christmas #1.

There have been some decent Christmas songs in recent years, they just don't get any attention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1rYmzQ8C9Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SIr-f1obew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=644U-jMpDUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QDE-3Yiz3k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ydNJGczawU

Capt'n Midnight

yipeeeee wrote: »

Most if not all of the classics are from the 70s 80 and 90s.

Is this a sign of the music industry in general or what's the crack with it??

you missed the 1960's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Christmas_Gift_for_You_from_Phil_Spector

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJtnEEJf8I

Capt'n Midnight

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Christmas songs are generally horrific regardless of year of release.

Been played to death but still ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8

interesting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairytale_of_New_York#Background_and_song_development

yipeeeee

we'llallhavetea wrote: »

yeah i'm gonna say its more than likely because we grew up with the oldies

But every music station, shop radio station plays the old ones.

So it's not just a generation thing seems you find all generations in the above.

newmug

yipeeeee wrote: »

But every music station, shop radio station plays the old ones.

So it's not just a generation thing seems you find all generations in the above.

Its as simple as this really - modern music is sh1te.

fergiesfolly

Work in a shop over Christmas OP and then come back and tell us about all the classics.

Simon Cowell killed Christmas(songs)

Which in my book, gets him off the hook for all the tripe his acts have produced over the years.

razorblunt

Does anyone really give it a proper go nowadays? That Coldplay song Christmas Lights is just depressing, it's not a bad song but Xmas songs tend to fall into two categories the decent album tracks you'd listen to and the drunken folk at Xmas Party shout alongs. If its not the latter then its not deemed an Xmas song by the majority it would seem.

In fairness to Leona Lewis she gave it a decent crack last Xmas but I don't think her song went anywhere.

FWIW - David Essex Winter's Tale is the best Xmas Song.

pconn062

I would suggest that the best Christmas music as actually written before 1900. Who since has written a better piece of Christmas music that Handel's Messiah? Or Mendelsohn's Hark the Herald Angels? Or Silent Night. Or Bach's Christmas Oratorio. So screw you 80's and 90's bands, you suck! :pac:

valoren

I'm sure that the Paul McCartney Frog song was regarded as pure sh1te when it was released 30 years ago too.

Grandeeod

Top 10 most played Christmas songs in the noughties.

1. ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS YOU Mariah Carey (1994)

2. FAIRYTALE OF NEW YORK The Pogues (1987)

3. MERRY XMAS EVERYBODY Slade (1973)

4. STOP THE CAVALRY Jona Lewie (1980)

5. DO THEY KNOW IT'S CHRISTMAS? Band Aid (1984)

6. DRIVING HOME FOR CHRISTMAS Chris Rea (1988)

7. LAST CHRISTMAS Wham (1984)

8. I BELIEVE IN FATHER CHRISTMAS Greg Lake (1975)

9. STEP INTO CHRISTMAS Elton John (1973)

10. WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS TIME Paul McCartney (1979)

Source: PPL & PRS for Music

Mars Bar

I have wondered this too but I must listen to the newer ones posted here and see what I think.
Don't let the bells end by the darkness is the only one of this century that I feel will be around for years to come.

Grandeeod

Best selling Christmas songs of the noughties based on downloads and physical sales are-

1. Do they know its christmas. Band Aid 20. 2004
2. Christmas Time. The Darkness. 2003
3. Fairytale of New York. The Pogues. 1987
4. All I want for Christmas. Mariah Carey. 1994
5. Proper Crimbo. Bo Selecta. 2003
6. What hurts the most/Last Christmas. Cascada. 2007
7. Last Christmas. Wham. 1984
8. Happy Christmas (War is over) The Idols. 2003
9. I believe in Christmas. Tweenies. 2001
10. Puppy love/Sleigh ride. S Club Juniors. 2002.

whiskeyman

Lots of shops probably haven't bought any new Christmas CD compilations since the 90s, hence the same tunes over and over.

Smith & Burrows - 'When the Thames Froze' is one of my favourite 'newer' Christmas songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=644U-jMpDUw
Lovely vibe to it.
It's from 2011, but it sounds like a classic.

Schwiiing

X Factor wrapped up the Christmas No 1 a few years back so no one bothers anymore. The Darkness had the last good original Christmas No1.

Allegedly Simon Cowell bought the rights to Killing in the Name Of and made a fortune of that and whatever X Factor ****e he put put that year. Also he allegedly bought the rights to several versions of Hallelujah all of which charted the year Alexandra Burke won it.

Patty O Furniture

Didn't Rage Against The Machine almost come close to beating Cowell's Christmas domination.

I like Deano's It's Beginning To Look a Lot Like Christmas/Let It Snow... & Driving Home For Christmas etc. & without fail Pogues & FONY,
but not Ronan Keatings phony FONY :mad:

paulbok

Patty O Furniture wrote: »

Didn't Rage Against The Machine almost come close to beating Cowell's Christmas domination.

I like Deano's It's Beginning To Look a Lot Like Christmas/Let It Snow... & Driving Home For Christmas etc. & without fail Pogues & FONY,
but not Ronan Keatings phony FONY :mad:

The Phony FONY?

Julian Casablancas, "wish it was Christmas Today" was a good tune, but I doubt it'll ever get the airplay say Slade do this time of year.

Several new Xmas tunes were released since 2000, (not counting covers) but very few have or will make it into the usual festive playlists.

Now here is a list of Xmas hits from a well known compilation, a few I don't recognise (with ?) but only 2 I can see from this century, and both are tenuous inclusions.


John & Yoko And The Plastic Ono Band With The Harlem Community Choir - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)
Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
The Pogues feat. Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York
Wham! - Last Christmas
Wizzard - I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday
Slade - Merry Xmas Everybody
Chris Rea - Driving Home For Christmas
Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas?
Greg Lake - I Believe In Father Christmas
Cliff Richard - Mistletoe And Wine
Mud - Lonely This Christmas
Boney M - Mary's Boy Child / Oh My Lord
Jona Lewie - Stop The Cavalry
Shakin' Stevens - Merry Christmas Everyone
Elton John - Step Into Christmas
Girls Aloud - Not Tonight Santa
Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmas Time
Pretenders - 2000 Miles ?
Coldplay - Christmas Lights
Gabrielle Aplin - The Power Of Love
Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas
Bing Crosby - White Christmas
Andy Williams - It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year
Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!
Nat King Cole Trio - The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas To You)
Doris Day - Winter Wonderland
Frank Sinatra - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas
The Crystals - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town
The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride
Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree
The Jackson 5 - Frosty The Snowman
Alma Cogan - Never Do a Tango With An Eskimo ?
Kylie Minogue - Santa Baby
The Ronettes - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus
The Crystals - Rudolph The Red
The Beach Boys - Little Saint Nick
Adam Faith - Lonely Pup (In A Christmas Shop) ?
Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside
Jim Reeves - Silver Bells
Burl Ives - O Little Town of Bethlehem
Nat King Cole - The Little Boy That Santa Claus Forgot
Frank Sinatra - I'll Be Home For Christmas (If Only In My Dreams)
Johnny Mathis - When A Child Is Born
Chris De Burgh - A Spaceman Came Travelling
Il Divo - O Holy Night
Sinéad O'Connor - Silent Night
Bert Jansch - In The Bleak Mid Winter
Steeleye Span - Gaudete ?
Mike Oldfield - In Dulci Jubilo
Cliff Richard - Saviour's Day
Aled Jones - Walking In The Air
David Essex - A Winter's Tale
East 17 - Stay Another Day
George Michael - December Song (I Dreamed Of Christmas)
Bing Crosby & David Bowie - Peace Of Earth
Mick Hucknall - Happy This Christmas ?
Jethro Tull - Ring Out Solstice Bells
The Waitresses - Christmas Wrapping
Band Aid 20 - Do They Know It's Christmas?
The Weavers - We Wish You A Merry Christmas
The Spinners - The Twelve Days Of Christmas
Andy Stewart - Auld Lang Syne
Abba - Happy New Year

Patty O Furniture

paulbok wrote: »

The Phony FONY?

Remember his rendition of Fairytale Of New York, which was pretty dire

thelad95

These are two Christmas songs released in recent years that I like compared to some of the cringeworthy classics:

Woshy

Tim Minchin - White Wine in The Sun is by far my favourite Christmas song and that's recent enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNvZqpa-7Q

thelad95

Woshy wrote: »

Tim Minchin - White Wine in The Sun is by far my favourite Christmas song and that's recent enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNvZqpa-7Q

Fantastic song and one everyone can relate to without any religion or consumerism being shoved down peoples throats. Brought me to tears the first time I heard it.