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Lad Culture

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  • #62
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Does 'Lad Culture' apply to camp people leering over other lads, and making lewd offensive jokes about them, or is it only towards women?


  • #63
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    So what exactly is lad culture and what is the problem with it?


  • #64
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,934 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    efb wrote: »
    Where, by whom?

    The Guardian, the BBC, magazines, an awful lot of TV programmes, advertising, etc...

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #65
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Does 'Lad Culture' apply to camp people leering over other lads, and making lewd offensive jokes about them, or is it only towards women?

    No thats queenie culture


  • #66
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The Guardian, the BBC, magazines, an awful lot of TV programmes, advertising, etc...

    Oh so just generalising then


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  • #67
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    efb wrote: »
    No thats queenie culture

    But that's acceptable?


  • #68
    AndonHandon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    There is nothing to be ashamed of for being part of the majority of people; straight, financially comfortable, into sports, enjoys alcohol. Let the boys play, it may be silly or reckless but if it doesn't harm anyone then there is no legitimate issue.


  • #69
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    TheBeardedLady wrote: »
    This thread was started by a man. Most contributions are by men. A few weeks ago, women were complaining about misogyny on boards and you came on all guns blazing demanding examples not willing to listen to anyone.

    You have serious issues. You're not the only one on Boards though.

    Fcuk this ****.

    If you have to resort to ad hominem attacks, frankly you're not worth my time, you've already lost.

    Might I suggest a glass of water. See you in your next reincarnation.


  • #70
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    But that's acceptable?

    No. Did I say it was?


  • #71
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,934 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    efb wrote: »
    Oh so just generalising then

    Do you regularly watch TV or read newspapers?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • #72
    sock puppet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    efb wrote: »
    http://www.theguardian.com/higher-education-network/blog/2014/oct/15/lad-culture-thrives-in-our-neoliberal-universities

    Do bloggers in CiF have to sign some sort of contact before contributing whereby they agree to blame liberal economics for everything that's wrong with the world?


  • #73
    RayM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    I always associate the whole "lad culture" thing with boorish idiots whose voices drop several octaves whenever they're in the presence of "the lads". It's always funny when you hear them talking to their mammies.


  • #74
    tritium
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    efb wrote: »
    Oh so just generalising then

    I thought that was what terms like lad culture did? :)


  • #75
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Do you regularly watch TV or read newspapers?

    I was expecting actual examples not just- them overthere


  • #76
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    efb wrote: »
    No. Did I say it was?

    Asked a question, but you participate in it?


  • #77
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    tritium wrote: »
    I thought that was what terms like lad culture did? :)

    No its describing a behaviour trait, where is a wide enough correlation to justify it.


  • #78
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    Asked a question, but you participate in it?

    No. I respect men. I've never made jokes about raping them or as a prize.


  • #79
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Field Marshal Bigdick wrote: »
    Keep wondering, that poster criticised feminists, not women.

    hello brand new poster!


  • #80
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,934 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    efb wrote: »
    I was expecting actual examples not just- them overthere

    Ok then, notice how men in popular almost always seem to me sleazy, stupid or both? Any modern US sitcom evinces this and I'll cite the entire male cast of characters of Big Bang Theory as an example. The likes of Jessica Valenti and Una Mullally regularly spout the kind of bile that sends men off to the likes of Paul Elam.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #81
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Field Marshal Bigdick wrote: »
    Can you clarify when you think it's on to generalise and when it isn't?

    see the second part of my post newbie.


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  • #82
    efb
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Ok then, notice how men in popular almost always seem to me sleazy, stupid or both? Any modern US sitcom evinces this and I'll cite the entire male cast of characters of Big Bang Theory as an example. The likes of Jessica Valenti and Una Mullally regularly spout the kind of bile that sends men off to the likes of Paul Elam.

    they don't come across as stupid. Only Walawitz (sp) is sleazy imho and that is explained as insecurity.


  • #83
    RayM
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Ok then, notice how men in popular almost always seem to me sleazy, stupid or both? Any modern US sitcom evinces this and I'll cite the entire male cast of characters of Big Bang Theory as an example. The likes of Jessica Valenti and Una Mullally regularly spout the kind of bile that sends men off to the likes of Paul Elam.

    In most sitcoms, the main characters are all men. The comedy always stems from the characters' personality flaws. While it's true that men in sitcoms are usually portrayed as flawed, stupid, sleazy, deluded, etc, it's not the result of any inherent bias against men.


  • #84
    ancapailldorcha
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    efb wrote: »
    they don't come across as stupid. Only Walawitz (sp) is sleazy imho and that is explained as insecurity.

    Well, one of the characters can't even speak to women unless plastered, one struggles with even the most basic of interactions. Leonard seems at least somewhat believable while the other 3 are little more than caricatures.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #85
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    efb wrote: »
    Its not attacking all men, its attacking the "lad culture"

    Is lad culture actually all that harmful though?Like if we are going to look at Geordie Shore etc seriously we don't see any thing thats really new or shocking behaviour from the "lads" apart from their body culture, its the laddette culture thats something new(ish).
    The whole lad culture thing is annoying lowest common denominator sh^te but its the same thing thats been going on forever, its easy enough to avoid that scene if you want too.


  • #86
    Turtyturd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    efb wrote: »
    No. I respect men. I've never made jokes about raping them or as a prize.

    That's by your convenient definition of lad culture. You've plenty of posts objectifying footballers, I'd consider men doing the same to women one of the big traits of lad culture.


  • #87
    Diabhal Beag
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    Lad culture can be easily defined by your friends that read Joe.ie, like Dapper Laughs or other equally terrible entities (Ladbible etc)


  • #88
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,934 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It's the double standard at play which infuriates me. If women objectify men, it's fine. If a man comments on a woman's appearance, it's misogyny.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #89
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    That's by your convenient definition of lad culture. You've plenty of posts objectifying footballers, I'd consider men doing the same to women one of the big traits of lad culture.

    Saying I find Olivier Giroud attractive? I would not consider guys expressing an interest in ladies to be laddish, unless there is a use of derogatory words and references to forcing themselves on them.


  • #90
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Turtyturd wrote: »
    That's by your convenient definition of lad culture. You've plenty of posts objectifying footballers, I'd consider men doing the same to women one of the big traits of lad culture.

    Whats your opinion on Dappy Laughes?


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  • #91
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Ah, the old double reverse bait and switch. A classic.


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