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Tinkersbell

blacklilly wrote: »

This is my issue, from my observation on these protesters many are not hit in terms of prsi, usc, property tax etc and the suggestion of them paying for a service (any service) has them in utter revolt.

You pro water tax lads really don't have a clue about the make up of the crowd yesterday, do you?
I'm beginning to see some traits when it comes to you lads, the same traits that exist in our glorious CS/PS.......
Keep the trough full at all costs...

BoJack Horseman

hju6 wrote: »

For the past 7 years taxes and charges have risen, wages have been lowered, working hours increased.

And we are expected to be grateful for a few quid in January?

Eagerly awaiting your superior alternative to governments balancing their budget.

How would you make a€12bn primary deficit disappear?

Princess Peach

I was on a bus through town at lunch time yesterday when they first started blocking the bridge, bus driver said we had to get off. Really felt for the guy sitting next to me with crutches and one leg, hope he didn't have far to go.

Couldn't get a bus out in the evening, went to abbey St and told to walk to smithfield in the freezing cold for the Luas, inconvenient for me but a group of elderly women at the stop looked very worried.

I walked a long way home and was cold and tired but at least I could. Not everyone is able to walk or cycle like so many suggest.

blacklilly

shinzon wrote: »

in otherwords were back to the dissident dole scummers argument, round and round we go where it stops everyone knows

Shin

No not at all, you'll see from my post that I have used the word "many" as of course there are working people who are against these charges also.

I have no issue paying my taxes and I am happy that my taxes go to pay for welfare for people that need it. My issue is there are some people who expect everything to be paid for them and that is entirely sickening.

Can't work or won't work?

shinzon

blacklilly wrote: »

Well unless you'd rather people drink drive, then the only option for many is to pay for a taxi after a night out.

I don't see any relevance in your post

Perhaps because there paying money and don't crib about it, but suddenly its more money when they have to get a taxi home to avoid the protests, you know the criminality of having a bit of sense

Shin

Highflyer13

hmmm wrote: »

There seems to be a mass of people who are angry with everything and just looking for something to latch onto.

There's plenty of people who like living on state handouts who object to being asked to pay for anything.

There's a group of Republicans who like causing as much trouble as possible.

There's a mobilisation of Sinn Fein supporters once they spotted an opportunity.

There's a small minority of people who object to the way IW itself has been set up.

There's a small group of hard-left TDs who have hijacked the protests for their own agenda.

It's very like the Seanad vote - a load of people, all voting the same way for completely different reasons, with no coherent idea as to what exactly it is they are looking for. This sort of incoherent rage causes a vacuum, and people like SF & the SWP rush in to be seen as leading the charge. Listening to them would be a stupid way to try and run a country, this is why we have elections.

Theres a lot to be angry about to be fair. Just look at the state of the HSE. The rot starts from the top. Also look at the countless white collar criminals getting away scot free at the hands of Government appointed judges. Thats just a snap shot of a couple of issues and believe me the list is long.

FG and FF need to be condemned to the dustbins of history. Two sets of treacherous pricks with their snouts firmly in the the troughs. Personally I am looking for a new centre-right party because what is there have shown to be abject, corrupt failures.

Tinkersbell

Idbatterim wrote: »

yeah I have had enough of all the freeloaders! If this whole Irish water debacle has done anything, it has only further fuelled my disgust at the sheer amount of wasters here. If they are so unhappy, and a few euro a week is going to make or break them, I strongly suggest doing something about your situation!

Another lad branding all protesters as the same.
Another trait worthy of our CS/PS....

Trond

shinzon wrote: »

People don't seem to be to pushed when there forced to pay for Taxis home when there pissed out of the heads on a Saturday night, but because it was scummers on a bridge it was an inconvenience to get home

:rolleyes:

Shin

What an utterly retarded point of view to hold.

They blocked the Luas ffs.

Have you got an answer to that?

Tinkersbell

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Eagerly awaiting your superior alternative to governments balancing their budget.

How would you make a€12bn primary deficit disappear?

We don't have a €12 billion deficit.

hmmm

end of the road wrote: »

so you're as bad then, you're a terrorist? grand so

Does anyone have any idea what this guy is ranting about?

shinzon

blacklilly wrote: »

No not at all, you'll see from my post that I have used the word "many" as of course there are working people who are against these charges also.

I have no issue paying my taxes and I am happy that my taxes go to pay for welfare for people that need it. My issue is there are some people who there who expect everything to be paid for them and that i entirely sickening.

Can't work or won't work?

"many"

And pres tell how do you know its many, why I said were back to the argument

Shin

end of the road

yipeeeee wrote: »

They are loosing support by many each stunt they do

they aren't. so called "losing support" means they never had it in the first place, and that people were always going to pay up as per usual

yipeeeee wrote: »

its funny watching it die by their own actions.

its not dieing at all

KERSPLAT!

Closed.

Gimmie a few minutes to talk to the other mods and see what we come up with

KERSPLAT!

OK, the thread is staying closed.

There were enough warnings, cards, thread warnings and bans and still the abuse and IMO, trolling, continues. If anyone wants examples of this just look at the last few pages. Posters being labeled as terrorists etc...

There is an ongoing discussion among the mods and this will continue but for now discussion on IW/Water charges and the related issues will have to take place somewhere other than AH.

Any issue, please feel free to PM me or any of the mod team.