The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

everlast75

JoeA3 wrote: »

I believe the DSG is just a tad heavier, maybe 2-3mpg. The official figures might give you a different impression but in the real world I've found DSG is s bit thirstier.

Did you go for the dsg on your R?

JoeA3

everlast75 wrote: »

Did you go for the dsg on your R?

I did yeah. Very happy with it tbh, I got it purely for something different and based on the rave reviews it gets. I'm happy I went for it but occasionally I do crave the manual.

GustavoFring

vintagevrs wrote: »

I had a little play with one on Tuesday coming off a few roundabouts in a row onto dual carriageways. Bit of fun and nothing silly. Got me interested in checking the spec on them so went on the Skoda config. That VRS blue colour is not available in the 230 petrol model which I found surprising, just for the diesel. The Petrol has a much smaller range of colours, could just be their configurator isn't as accurate as it should be though.

A 230 VRS Combi is a pretty capable car for making progress, and carrying stuff. Basically just a big GTI PP estate.

The 230 is a special edition but it seems for Ireland it's the only petrol option. The colour choices aren't great at all on it. In the UK where they sell more petrols you can get the standard 220 one in any colour as well as the 230. Makes sense given the limited numbers that will sell. It's also got about 2k worth of extras for a few hundred more than the 220 was.

MisterDrak

everlast75 wrote: »

What difference is there in fuel consumption between the gti and dsg gti?

My previous Mk7 manual was standing 31.07mpg, when sold in Aug15.

The current DSG is at relatively poor 27.93mpg (and usually in Eco setting).

carsfan

On lots of newer cars the economy figures for the auto are better than the manual but this does not seem to be the case with dsg type gearboxes.
Moves the gti up an emissions band too I think?

JoeA3

carsfan wrote: »

Moves the gti up an emissions band too I think?

It does yeah, although oddly the official CO2 figures for a DSG R are lower than the manual R. Strange!

Neilw

Mine averages 30mpg consistently, computer showing 27mpg average.
I worked it out over the last 3 tanks properly.

dar83

OSI wrote: »

I always figured I'd be a lot more efficient around town in the DSG than a manual for the simple fact that the DSG insists on being in 6th everywhere, whereas I'd never get above 4th till I hit a 80+ zone if I had a manual.

You'd be surprised in the Mk7. It wants to go into 6th once you stop accelerating and you're sitting at 60km/hr!

JoeA3

Neilw wrote: »

Mine averages 30mpg consistently, computer showing 27mpg average.
I worked it out over the last 3 tanks properly.

How??!! I've found that the car's computer is always bang on according to my calculations. Also averaging 26-27mpg.

Neilw

JoeA3 wrote: »

How??!! I've found that the car's computer is always bang on according to my calculations. Also averaging 26-27mpg.

Don't know, I've never reset the computer but I work out the mpg by litres used and miles over the last few tanks.

JoeA3

Hmmm...
The computer for the current tank resets itself automatically every time you fill up. This is the MPG figure I usually look at.

From empty, the car takes approx. 50 litres (+/- a litre or two). That's 11 gallons. I covered 480kms (298 miles) in the last tank. That equates to 27mpg, which is exactly what the car's computer was telling me.

The "long term" computer also resets itself after a certain period of time / distance.

26000 Elephants

JoeA3 wrote: »

It does yeah, although oddly the official CO2 figures for a DSG R are lower than the manual R. Strange!

Strange alright. Its not like VW might manipulte the co2 tests or anything.

vintagevrs

This may be useful for some. I have a decent commute on N roads but I do enjoy the car for what it is. 26 mpg and that agrees with OBC.

GustavoFring

Like the variance between best and worst;)

vintagevrs

That 15mpg wasn't just a tenners worth of petrol either. Just checked, 55 euro for 230km

Donnelly117

OSI wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Geddit?

Maestro84

OSI wrote: »

Oh yes

Have to go back next week to sort some software crap, but other than that I'm in love!

What software do you have to get? Picking my golf up next week, can't wait.

vintagevrs

MisterDrak wrote: »

My previous Mk7 manual was standing 31.07mpg, when sold in Aug15.

The current DSG is at relatively poor 27.93mpg (and usually in Eco setting).

Looking well today MrD:)

Nonoperational

Getting around 42mpg in the GTD after 5,000 KM. Thats daily 5km trips to work and 1 or 2 weekly 250km trips.

dar83

That would have been the DCC option.

(Did you test drive the White one that Airside had by any chance? :P )

kooga

carsfan wrote: »

I suppose back in 2011, petrol cars with bigger running costs supposedly were not too welcome at the dealers.
Everybody was obsessed with diesel and the lowest tax bands back then.
As the economy recovers somewhat I suppose more interesting cars like gti/R sell better.
What wax the road tax on that gti as a matter of interest?

road tax due at the end of the month for my 08 mark V €710

in two minds about holding on as I got my NCT yesterday so good for another two years.

dar83

Yeah, I would have liked it myself but from what I've read/heard it doesn't make a huge amount of difference overall. Only thing I would really have liked to be able to control would have been the Soundaktor, but you can tweak that via VCDS anyway so that's probably what I'll look to do.

vintagevrs

OSI,

Your car should have that button. It is standard now in Ireland. Originally you needed to spec DCC to have it in ireland but VW Ireland changed that last year. That applies to the R at least and I would assume the GTI is the same. On non DCC cars, as you said it should change other stuff like throttle response, soundaktor volume, steering weight, dsg mode etc

JoeA3

vintagevrs wrote: »

OSI,

Your car should have that button. It is standard now in Ireland. Originally you needed to spec DCC to have it in ireland but VW Ireland changed that last year. That applies to the R at least and I would assume the GTI is the same. On non DCC cars, as you said it should change other stuff like throttle response, soundaktor volume, steering weight, dsg mode etc

Nope. It's only standard on the R. Possibly due to the 2 of us badgering VW about it this time last year :pac:
Not standard in the GTI. OSI, the demo probably had the DCC option.
NEVER rely on a VW dealer to know his stuff when it comes to spec.

It's probably possible to spec it on a GTI for about €150 but seeing as your car wasn't a factory order, that's neither here nor there.

vintagevrs

Well look what assuming did for me

I was a but cynical of the button at the start as thought it was gimmicky, which i suppose it is. But it does get pressed the odd time now depending on the mood. I was in dublin Saturday and Sunday. Wife and kids on board so driving quite normally. 32mpg on the way there and back. 22mpg around dublin itself in traffic, that would crack me up.

JoeA3

vintagevrs wrote: »

Well look what assuming did for me .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbPa3MGlVS8

JoeA3

OSI wrote: »

Ah, it's not something I'd pay €150 for. I imagine going from drive to sport on the DSG does half the stuff I'd want to mess with anyway. Was more something I'd kick up a fuss about if it was something that should be, but wasn't.

Yeah, to be honest you'll live without it. It's been kinda set and forget for me. The handy thing is, it gives you an "Individual" mode setting, where you can customise a few parameters to be either Eco/Normal/Sport. So for example, I've set the steering weight to be "sport" and the headlights too (it makes the cornering function much more aggressive - looks cool on the bends) whereas I've set the fake-noise to be "normal". There's no way I could listen to that sound actuator in the Race setting all the time...

So - the big benefit is I can have the DSG box in S mode while the Sound actuator is still in Normal mode.

dar83

I'll be looking at getting rid of the soundaktor altogether at some point I think. There are times in low gears at low revs that the car sounds like a diesel the racket that thing makes, it's horrible.

Maybe it's just that I came from an ST, but the economy on the Golf since I got it has been wonderful, haha. No matter how I drive it I get more out of a tank AND the tank costs less to fill. Double bonus!

JoeA3

dar83 wrote: »

I'll be looking at getting rid of the soundaktor altogether at some point I think. There are times in low gears at low revs that the car sounds like a diesel the racket that thing makes, it's horrible.

Is your car a manual Dar? And the thing still makes a racket? Mine is OK in Normal mode, don't really notice it much unless really pushing on. Maybe without the "Mode" button, the actuator is permanently in Sport mode which would be annoying for sure.

GustavoFring

If anyone has the obdeleven thing now you can change the volume of/disable the actuator in one swipe now. Did it in the diesel at the weekend...it's so intrusive on the motorway under load that the actual engine sound is preferable:pac: