Saturday 15th November

MoscowFlyer

Really interested to see how Kings Palace takes to chasing tomorrow. Around an even money chance but I think he could well get beat by the in form Hobbs team so I will be siding with SAUSALITO SUNRISE in that race. Expect Kings Palace to come on massively for the run and be a serious player over fences but tomorrow might just be a chance to oppose this season.

mailburner

read my mind there moscow

the one horse I'm really curious about
could win this easily if it jumps well but there's an if
put a small bet on at 11/8 though


more I look at the big race the more I can't see buywise out of the frame
if he jumps well he must go close to winning here

love this meeting, doesnt get much better than this

MoscowFlyer

Cant make any sense of the PP Gold Cup chase but I've somehow plucked CAID DU BERLAIS out of the whole lot so I'll be siding with that animal tomorrow.

BumperD

Kings Palace all day long.

Paddy Power looks a poor renewal. I don't see a gold cup contender. Johns Spirit could serve it up to them again.

Shemale

Got word for Indian Castle in 230, he is in great form at home and connections are expecting a big run. A friend of mine works with the owner.

longshotvalue

Cheltenham 1:50

Safran de Cotte sticks out for me here as one who will get the trip in this ground and looks to be on a winnable mark. He also has a very decent record fresh and should be ready for this. 14/1 is overpriced. I’m also going again with Golden Chieftain as he is sure to win at some stage as his mark comes down and has a decent record on soft ground.


1 Point win Safran de Cotte 14/1
1 point win Golden Chieftain 12/1

Cheltenham 2:30
Cantlow ran poorly for me on his seasonal reappearance, but he has a decent record on soft ground and hasn’t really seen it since a few very good novice performance’s a while ago. He also ran a very good second in one of these c&d races last year of a higher mark against a very good yardstick. 25/1 is a very decent price with vcbet and well worth a shot.


1 Point win 25/1 VCBet

mailburner

Shemale wrote: »

Got word for Indian Castle in 230, he is in great form at home and connections are expecting a big run. A friend of mine works with the owner.

was torn between this and buywise myself
12/1 looks a biggish price for it so will have a saver ew on it in case

Gringo180

Some round of jumping that was from Kings Palace, Like a stag he was. Very impressive.

andyman

Looked a bit lazy on the run-in I thought. He had it comfortably won at that stage though. Impressive all-round.

jimjamcos

Gringo180 wrote: »

Some round of jumping that was from Kings Palace, Like a stag he was. Very impressive.

Jumped very well as you'd expect but still wouldn't bank on him out battling animals of levels come better races. 10/1 for RSA a putrid price imo

mailburner

jimjamcos wrote: »

Jumped very well as you'd expect but still wouldn't bank on him out battling animals of levels come better races. 10/1 for RSA a putrid price imo

good performance is all, not much strength in depth there
he'll be found out in better company, putrid price indeed

jimjamcos

mailburner wrote: »

good performance is all, not much strength in depth there
he'll be found out in better company, putrid price indeed

I know he's winning over 3m at Cheltenham but really not sure if the hill is made for him. The JLT is the only Cheltenham race I'd consider backing him for (if price was right) as not short of speed and his jumping could be a weapon in that.

andyman

That's a staying performance of the absolute best from Sam Winner

mailburner

thought geraghty was poor there, looked to be travelling best
let sam get away and then too much too do

Dubron

Some ride from Twiston-Davies there, Sam Winner definitely looks a Grand National type.

jimjamcos

He'd have to be seen as a GN horse after that effort!

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

thought geraghty was poor there, looked to be travelling best
let sam get away and then too much too do

Agreed...Im not one for slating jockeys but that was an error, left far to much to do despite travelling and finishing the better of the two.

Harry Angstrom

Can't make head nor tail of this year's PP. Small e/w bet on Kapga De Cerisy for me.

mailburner

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

Cant make any sense of the PP Gold Cup chase but I've somehow plucked CAID DU BERLAIS out of the whole lot so I'll be siding with that animal tomorrow.

well done

Harry Angstrom

Feel sorry for John's Spirit there. Great performance with such a big weight.

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

more I look at the big race the more I can't see buywise out of the frame
if he jumps well he must go close to winning here

wide the whole way round, how I got 5th I'll never know
thanks be to jaysus pp were paying out on 5

Sean Quagmire

aidankkk wrote: »

Cheltenham 2:30
Cantlow

1 Point win 25/1 VCBet

What a lemon.
Don't know why I bothered ha. never read these again.

Gringo180

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

What a lemon.
Don't know why I bothered ha. never read these again.

He has put up plenty of big priced winners before, not his fault the horse wasn't out to win today.

MoscowFlyer

Amazing ride by STD, wide the whole way around. Horse is only a 5yr old as well. Will be one to watch in the coming years.

Had it at 14s so good day so far

Sean Quagmire

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

Im a lemon.
Don't know why I bothered post this. never post here again.

FYP

fuzzydunlop85

Were PP payin 5 on gold cup ?

mailburner

fuzzydunlop85 wrote: »

Were PP payin 5 on gold cup ?

they were

Harry Angstrom

fuzzydunlop85 wrote: »

Were PP payin 5 on gold cup ?

Yes.

Harry Angstrom

Bookies shortening up the first four in the betting here. Miserable b@stards.

mailburner

channel 4 an absolute disgrace for taking a break with the wetherby race on

Harry Angstrom

Pineau wasn't trying, as the vast majority of the previous season's Grand National winners tend to do on their seasonal re-appearance. About time the stewards cracked down on this.

mailburner

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Pineau wasn't trying, as the vast majority of the previous season's Grand National winners tend to do on their seasonal re-appearance. About time the stewards cracked down on this.

backed it last nite ew, knew my fate before the race sadly with the drift and shoulve waited so my own fault, just thought 16s looked nice ew at the time
its a pretty sickening feeling
think it was 33s on the exhanges

Harry Angstrom

Looking forward to Golden Doyen here.

mailburner

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Looking forward to Golden Doyen here.

on that also at9/4

think hargam will need to be very good to beat it

mailburner

how did that win?

what a ride

Harry Angstrom

Ya beauty!

Andalucia

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Ya beauty!

Two shockers by Geraghty today

Kings Palace uber impressive.complete natural.if kept fresh wins Rsa

mailburner

willies in the last for me
townend over for the one ride,backed heavily so signs look good

jimjamcos

Andalucia wrote: »

Two shockers by Geraghty today

Kings Palace uber impressive.complete natural.if kept fresh wins Rsa

Ludicrous comment. Would be happy to oppose him with at least 5 of the current RSA market

Andalucia

jimjamcos wrote: »

Ludicrous comment. Would be happy to oppose him with at least 5 of the current RSA market

That's what makes racing fascinating,its as all about opinions. RSA is not often one by the classiest horse in the race but by a grinder who can jump - Kings Palace ticks those boxes for me.

BumperD

Very Wood will be a tough nut to crack in the RSA.

mailburner

mailburner wrote: »

willies in the last for me
townend over for the one ride,backed heavily so signs look good

not great by townend but wouldnt have beaten that winner who looks very useful

Peintre Celebre

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

What a lemon.
Don't know why I bothered ha. never read these again.

Jesus Sean you'll miss that fiver will you, send me your PP account name ill personally reimburse you

jimjamcos

Andalucia wrote: »

That's what makes racing fascinating,its as all about opinions. RSA is not often one by the classiest horse in the race but by a grinder who can jump - Kings Palace ticks those boxes for me.

He's about as far from a grinder as I can think of! He is a classy horse but, Jesus, he's no grinder. The likes of Very Wood are but KP's main strengths are his jumping and how he travels through races, imo

BorneTobyWilde

Bilash 14-1 ew 5.45
Won a similar race two back . Good value for a place/

Bangor Billy

jimjamcos wrote: »

He'd have to be seen as a GN horse after that effort!

Too slow for the National these days. Since they changed the fences slow plodders aren't going to win it anymore unless it's a bog.

Sean Quagmire

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Jesus Sean you'll miss that fiver will you, send me your PP account name ill personally reimburse you

how kind of you :D
ah i take my comment back on aidan. he puts in the effort to write up his thoughts on a race and contribute, sorry about that aidan.

im up for the day just about so all good.

BorneTobyWilde

Bilash squeezed out of it at the start. Second from last ,no room to wind horse up. Opened up late on,ran on into 2nd at 18-1 .
Unlucky I feel .

BorneTobyWilde

Lamyaa
Strong Flame 7.45 16-1 ew
13 lengths behind Dark Wave last time out. A horse who has done well since.
This is a weak race, can place I feel .

ste2010

Kings palace is essentially repeating what he did over hurdles last year..will be another flop at the festival.
Very weak albert Bartlett last season when you see who finished in the top 3.
RSA will be (if they go over fences) the top 3 in the 3m novice hurdle in punchestown and Apache stronghold if he goes. Before lots of memories wins tomorrow, you could do no harm and back him at a ludicrous price on betfair for the RSA

mailburner

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Pineau wasn't trying, as the vast majority of the previous season's Grand National winners tend to do on their seasonal re-appearance. About time the stewards cracked down on this.

shock horror!
a familiar old excuse

Race 5 - 3:00pm THE ULTIMA BUSINESS SOLUTIONS HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 1) (Listed Race)
The Stewards held an enquiry into the running and riding of PINEAU DE RE (FR), ridden by Daryl Jacob, and trained by Dr Richard Newland, which was held up in rear and appeared to be tenderly ridden before finishing eleventh beaten 66 lengths. The Stewards interviewed the rider and the trainer. They also received a report from the Veterinary Officer, who confirmed that a post-race examination of the gelding during routine testing failed to reveal any abnormalities, and observations from the Handicapper. The rider stated that his instructions were to drop PINEAU DE RE (FR) in, get him settled and try to creep into the race. He added that the gelding ran keenly for the first circuit and got very tired under his big weight. The trainer confirmed the instructions and added that PINEAU DE RE (FR) is always ridden from behind because he is very keen. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race the Stewards noted their explanations

sure it happens every day of the week no doubt but I miss most of that