Dosing lambs

Green farmer

That is one that got fly strike earlier in the summer, so the wool is just clipped tight around the tail area, but it's the colour of the wool regrowth that has me a bit baffled. I dosed them today again with a flukacide / wormer, and gave them a drench of cobalt and b12. Couldn't get the cooper drench. Tried three different suppliers. One supplier told me that horses can get a tinge of red in their coats when are deficient in cooper, but doesn't know if the same applies to sheep.

sea12

[quote=Tried three different suppliers. One supplier told me that horses can get a tinge of red in their coats when are deficient in cooper, but doesn't know if the same applies to sheep.[/quote]

Funny I was on a suppliers today that I'm not normally in and came across it on shelf. Bought it and dosed the lambs with it. Only 2ml per lamb. It was dear though. €30 for half litre.
Will be interesting to see if it works.

Robson99

dglhills wrote: »

Thats them. I gave them one when they were going out onto the hill at 4-6 weeks they got one a clipping time and again at weaning, I am happy with them.

What price approx is a box of 250 ??

Green farmer

sea12 wrote: »

Funny I was on a suppliers today that I'm not normally in and came across it on shelf. Bought it and dosed the lambs with it. Only 2ml per lamb. It was dear though. €30 for half litre.
Will be interesting to see if it works.

Im in cattle country so hard to get anything sheep related. If your only using 2ml, you'll do 250 lambs which isn't too bad. I'd be interested in hearing how you get on with it.

Vandy West

Robson99 wrote: »

What price approx is a box of 250 ??

55-60 Euro a box, one dose lasts 6-8 weeks, one bolus for lambs, two for ewes

sea12

Green farmer wrote: »

Im in cattle country so hard to get anything sheep related. If your only using 2ml, you'll do 250 lambs which isn't too bad. I'd be interested in hearing how you get on with it.

What county are u in green. U can pm if u want

Green farmer

Got faecal results back today. Sample A worm egg count 1000, coccidia 0. Sample B worm count 400, coccidia 200. Liver and rumen fluke, zero. Sample A was a single sample. Sample B was a collection of 2 samples. I selected the most scour samples I could find. Clear dose given about 4-5 weeks previously, which worries me abit on possible resistance.
I'll be swapping lambs over to silage and ration mix shortly as grass is more or less gone. Can they get reinfected with worms from bales of silage ?

paddysdream

Green farmer wrote: »

Got faecal results back today. Sample A worm egg count 1000, coccidia 0. Sample B worm count 400, coccidia 200. Liver and rumen fluke, zero. Sample A was a single sample. Sample B was a collection of 2 samples. I selected the most scour samples I could find. Clear dose given about 4-5 weeks previously, which worries me abit on possible resistance.
I'll be swapping lambs over to silage and ration mix shortly as grass is more or less gone. Can they get reinfected with worms from bales of silage ?

Could be resistance or you could have just missed the late worm "hatch".Very same happened to me last year as I said earlier.
I went back with a white drench,having used ivermectin type previously and it cleared up the problem.

Vet from pharma. company told me there can be a late surge of worms in or about September and this is what could have been the problem

rangler1

Green farmer wrote: »

Got faecal results back today. Sample A worm egg count 1000, coccidia 0. Sample B worm count 400, coccidia 200. Liver and rumen fluke, zero. Sample A was a single sample. Sample B was a collection of 2 samples. I selected the most scour samples I could find. Clear dose given about 4-5 weeks previously, which worries me abit on possible resistance.
I'll be swapping lambs over to silage and ration mix shortly as grass is more or less gone. Can they get reinfected with worms from bales of silage ?

Are you saying that A was a sample from 1 lamb or 1 batch.
They won't get worms from silage

Green farmer

Sample A was from 1 lamb. Sample B was a mixture of samples from 2 other lambs, unconnected to sample A. Maybe I should have sampled normal non scouring faecals as well, but I was trying to pick the most infested samples I could find.

rangler1

Green farmer wrote: »

Sample A was from 1 lamb. Sample B was a mixture of samples from 2 other lambs, unconnected to sample A. Maybe I should have sampled normal non scouring faecals as well, but I was trying to pick the most infested samples I could find.

1000 would be very high for 4 weeks dosed, 400 is possible after 4-5 wks even if the dose works, resistance in worms to the clear dose is unusual, but does happen, we'd go for an average sample here, ie take sample from 8or ten lambs in each batch.
Either way it wouldn't be a waste to dose both batches again
Worm count rose in Sept here very quick after the lambs not needing to be dosed in july or August

Green farmer

Thanks guys. I dosed some at weekend even before results came back so I'll dose rest tomorrow. Might give them albex. Think I might have to do some soil tests over the winter, and get some livers back from butchers / factory, to get an overall picture of what's going on. I suppose the bright side is that I've no trace of fluke on land.

greysides

Green farmer wrote: »

I suppose the bright side is that I've no trace of fluke on land.

Maybe, maybe not.

Worms lay eggs at 3 weeks inside, maybe a little less.

Fluke lays eggs at 3 months inside, maybe a little less.


Eggs are what's detected.

Green farmer

Thanks grey,

I drenched them again this morning . Gave 2/3 of the lambs the clear dose again and the rest of them got white dose. I marked the white dose ones to see if both drenches preform the same or if I've an issue with one of the drenches. Fingers crossed!!!