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Toy Story 4
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06-11-2014 11:45pm#1
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Full trailer out today. I can already tell that it's going to make me cry.
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Can only agree with others. Toy Story is near to being the perfect trilogy of films. Actually, it probably is a perfect trilogy. It taps into so many things for so many people of so many ages, it's quite brilliant when you think of it.
I just don't know why this needs to continue. Because, almost inevitably, it is going to embody the diminishing returns cliche, even if the previous sequels haven't.
Shut up Tony.
Ok, that trailer has me on board.
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I have *strong feelings* about the Toy Story series, because the first was a real favourite of mine as a kid and the sequels hit at just the right times for me to get the most out of them I think. So bear that in mind as I inevitably overanalyse this dumb Pixar toy movie
Let's reiterate a point that was made earlier: this film doesn't need to exist. You could have argued Toy Story 3 never really needed to exist either (well, insomuch as any film needs to exist) but TS3 wrapped everything up near perfectly - the film itself wasn't without its problems, but the last act is a rare triumph of franchise closure. I mean, it even visually loops back to the first moments of Toy Story 1 - it was done, and it was easy to ignore the throwaway shorts they've released since. This fourth film exists because Disney / Pixar like money, and it was engineered from that point. It's hard to ignore because of the '4' - this is being sold as a proper full chapter. So, does it make a convincing argument that we needed to revisit these toys one more time? Sort of - at the very least it tries.
The most noteworthy thing here is how weird it is, right up until a mid-credit scene that pushes a running joke to an incredible new extreme. Not David Lynch weird or anything (though there's also one scene that I think would have freaked me the **** out as a kid), just weird by Pixar and Toy Story standards. Forky is a masterful addition, and also the most bat**** of the entire series. His existential identity crisis is as intense as it is hilarious, and the film perks up as soon as he's introduced. The film often feels like dishing up the leftover good ideas that didn't quite fit into the other ones - scenes and sequences that don't necessarily coalesce perfectly, but are pretty good on their own terms. It's very probably the funniest Toy Story film, with some legitimately great and unexpected gags dotted throughout. Some of the new toys are wonderful - obvious how much fun they clearly had animating the tiny Giggle McDimples particularly. Also big credit for having avillain who's not really a villain, as there was a little bit too much crossover between Stinky Pete & Lotso.
Oh, and visually it's marvellous. It's been a few years since I watched Toy Story 3, but the fidelity and technology here feels like a proper leap - and Josh Cooley takes good advantage of it with extraordinarily detailed settings and beautiful compositions, particularly a rainy prologue that feels primarily like a way to show off how far we've come technically in the past two and a half decades. You got to give the creatives credits for managing to fit in some truly beautiful moments too - thewordless reunion scene between Woody and Botakes full advantage of one of the series' core rules in a deeply poignant, romantic and clever way.
It's the writing that gives some cause for hesitation when it comes to praising the film. From the off you can feel the scriptwriters' brains in overdrive, trying to come up with situations and context to get what they want to across. It's relentlessly contrived in a way the others weren't, and inevitability retreads the same old ground we've covered before. Ultimately, it does arrive somewhere newish, and there's definitely reflections on issues such as ageing and finding one's place in the world as the years tick by. But there's a lot of moving parts, and at worst it can feel like such a hodgepodge that it's fairly tricky to care about where it's all going. While the ending is predictably emotional - and pretty well handled - it falls well short of the overwhelming one-two punch of TS3's furnace/Bonnie's garden finale.
This is very much a Woody (and Bo Peep, who gets plenty of great material) story, to the point where it feels like many of the other characters are taking up space - Buzz included. I mean you could argue they were already struggling to come up with more directions for the likes of Jessie and Buzz in TS3, but it's doubly the case here. Most of the side characters are, well, sidelined and you'd barely miss the likes of Rex, Hamm, the Potato Heads if their few lines were cut. Much more time is given to a handful of new additions. I don't think it's necessarily a problem as such, but it gives the impression of the film being rather noisy with a lot of franchise baggage. And while it was always hard to ignore the corporate and branding elements in the series, the fact that Dinsey are selling Forky toys now is so absurd and egregious it actually kind of hurts the film itself :pac:
If there's one overarching problem, it's that everything feels kinda lightweight. That's fine, but this is a series that has constantly overachieved. This is a sillier, messier, less purposeful film than its predecessors. I'm actually glad they played with things like tone and pacing a bit, if only because a film series should constantly try something new within the inevitable constraints. Perhaps inevitably, though, it simply does not reach the remarkable heights Pixar has set for itself even if it does manage to find new angles in the core conceits and themes of the series.
To end on a positive, though, I had a whole lot of fun watching it - and while that's a lesser experience than I've come to expect from Toy Story, it's a whole lot better than I feared when I first heard a fourth film was on-the-way. Good, not great... but thank Christ it isn't worse than that.0 -
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Saw it last night and as mentioned above, there's some really genuine laugh out loud moments in it as well as some more emotional bits -the lost child scene where the "villain" also gets closure really got to me for some reason, Bonnie's first day in playschool, and the end where Woody makes his decision (with the echo back to the opening sequence) was really well done
Almost all of the regulars are reduced to fleeting appearances really -although the scene where they take control of the RV was hilarious- which is a bit disappointing, but this was a Woody and Bo story really so not that surprising.
Forky was great -his ongoing attempts to throw himself in the bin early on were brilliant- and a welcome addition to the gang(eventually!)
Overall while it may not have been an essential installment, it ties things up pretty well by the end, and both me and my 7 year old little fella really enjoyed it
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