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Scotland loses out as Japanese whisky named best in the world

  • 04-11-2014 9:16am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/11204872/Scotland-loses-out-as-Japanese-whisky-named-best-in-the-world.html
    The Scots are famous for their whisky, but will be licking their wounds this week after a Japanese single malt was named the best in the world. Yamazaki Single Malt Sherry Cask 2013 was given the title by the 2015 World Whisky Bible, which is compiled by whisky expert Jim Murray. He praised the whisky as “near indescribable genius”, with a “nose of exquisite boldness” and a finish of “light, teasing spice”, giving it an impressive 97.5 marks out of 100.

    So, for relaxing times... ;)

    Not really susprising though, I think Japan has been making some of the best whiskeys ever! Me and a friend drank our local out of the Nikka Coffee Grain whiskey a while back :p

    Bonus, some pics of the distillery via reddit: http://imgur.com/a/Cm27A


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Taketsuru 17 Years has won the best blend in the world a couple of times in the last 5 or 6 years too I think.

    I've a a full bottle on top of my dresser.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Scotland can fight over having the best whisky in the world.

    Ireland has the best whiskey though. We invented the stuff.

    Everything else is just imitation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    osarusan wrote: »
    Taketsuru 17 Years has won the best blend in the world a couple of times in the last 5 or 6 years too I think.

    I've a a full bottle on top of my dresser.

    Yup! http://www.nikkawhisky.eu/2014/03/taketsuru-17-years-worlds-best-blended-malt/

    I've had the 12 year old, Nikka do some amazing stuff ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Links234 wrote: »
    Yup! http://www.nikkawhisky.eu/2014/03/taketsuru-17-years-worlds-best-blended-malt/

    I've had the 12 year old, Nikka do some amazing stuff ;)
    There's a serial/documentary series on Japanese TV at the the moment about Mrs Taketsuru - Mr Taketsuru went to Scotland to study whisky-making and came back with a Scottish wife, who apparently was a rock on which he was able to build his whisky business.

    The Nikka stuff has been flying off the shelves since apparently.*



    *But I was drinking it before it was cool.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    osarusan wrote: »

    The Nikka stuff has been flying off the shelves since apparently.*



    *But I was drinking it before it was cool.

    I knew I'd strayed into a hipster thread! :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Uncle Ruckus


    Lapin wrote: »
    Scotland can fight over having the best whisky in the world.

    Ireland has the best whiskey though. We invented the stuff.

    Everything else is just imitation.

    Surprisingly it was the Babylonians ( present day Iraq) who invented it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    osarusan wrote: »
    There's a serial/documentary series on Japanese TV at the the moment about Mrs Taketsuru - Mr Taketsuru went to Scotland to study whisky-making and came back with a Scottish wife, who apparently was a rock on which he was able to build his whisky business.

    The Nikka stuff has been flying off the shelves since apparently.*



    *But I was drinking it before it was cool.

    That sounds fascinating, I wonder how long it'll be until someone youtubes it ;)

    I actually don't think I had any Nikka while I was over there, it wasn't until they started appearing in shops this side of the world, but my favourite has to be this little one!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Surprisingly it was the Babylonians ( present day Iraq) who invented it.

    Bollox. My great grandfather used to make his own.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Hard liquor drinkers appear to have a fantastic long term memory... :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭tailgunner


    Lapin wrote: »
    Bollox. My great grandfather used to make his own.

    It was actually my old great-grandpappy who invented it, back in 4500 BC or thereabouts. Some time after the dinosaurs and before the water charges anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    I knew I'd strayed into a hipster thread! :mad:

    Nothing is safe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    tailgunner wrote: »
    It was actually my old great-grandpappy who invented it, back in 4500 BC or thereabouts. Some time after the dinosaurs and before the water charges anyway.

    Ah, but could you buy his tack in the duty free shop at Baghdad Airport on a trip home from the Hanging Gardens?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Links234 wrote: »
    He praised the whisky as “near indescribable genius”, with a “nose of exquisite boldness” and a finish of “light, teasing spice”,

    Craft beer blurb writers all over the country flee their desks weeping in jealousy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    I've tried a few Japanese malts, and they're very good. I'm a big fan of the very peaty Islay malts and AFAIK they don't really make any like that.

    Lagavullin's profits are safe for a year or two yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I've tried a few Japanese malts, and they're very good. I'm a big fan of the very peaty Islay malts and AFAIK they don't really make any like that.

    Suntory's Hakushu might be what you're looking for - it's probably as close as Japanese whisky gets to being really peaty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    osarusan wrote: »
    Mr Taketsuru went to Scotland to study whisky-making and came back with a Scottish wife, who apparently was a rock

    Those crazy Japs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    osarusan wrote: »
    Suntory's Hakushu might be what you're looking for - it's probably as close as Japanese whisky gets to being really peaty.

    I'll give it a go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    i really like whiskey.
    It bothers me when people start saying irish, scotch, japanese is better or worse than the other.
    It's a matter of personal taste all three have fantastic qualities depending on the occasion and your humour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    Whisky is the work of Satan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    catallus wrote: »
    Whisky is the work of Satan.

    not true , my granny says "whiskey makes you frisky, gin makes you sin"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,275 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Wonder what Scotty from Star Trek would have to say:

    "No way laddie, the best whiskey is not Scotch but from Japan? It can nae be!"

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭wilhelm roentgen


    SeanW wrote: »
    Wonder what Scotty from Star Trek would have to say:

    "No way laddie, the best whiskey is not Scotch but from Japan? It can nae be!"

    Jim (Beam) me up Scotty


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    i really like whiskey.
    It bothers me when people start saying irish, scotch, japanese is better or worse than the other.
    It's a matter of personal taste all three have fantastic qualities depending on the occasion and your humour.

    Oh I don't disagree. I mean, I don't like peaty whiskeys, no matter how good they might be the peatiness just ain't to my tastes. But Irish, Scotch, Japanese I'll find plenty that are great.

    It's just that, a few years back, people would look at you funny if you mentioned Japanese whiskey, they'd be surprised that Japan even makes whiskey or wouldn't believe you if you said they were good. Now, a lot of decent places will have some decent Japanese stock, a good few bars will have them, and people don't seem to treat them with incredulity as much. So I'm happy out to see Japan get recognition for making some damn good whiskeys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Jim (Beam) me up Scotty

    Did you sign up just to make that pun!? :D Because it's glorious!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    None of this fancy stuff, give us a half one and a pint..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Nothing I like better than some red lemonade mixed into my whiskey or scotch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Nothing I like better than some red lemonade mixed into my whiskey or scotch.

    Don't toy with me Sir. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    I've tried a few Japanese malts, and they're very good. I'm a big fan of the very peaty Islay malts and AFAIK they don't really make any like that.

    Lavagullin's profits are safe for a year or two yet.

    Lavagullin. Now there's a drink you could set your watch too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭Custardpi


    Now that Scotch has slipped down the whisky rankings can we expect to see a drop in the prices of Islay & Speyside malts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Ha!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Jim (Beam) me up Scotty
    Shouldn't the Jim be in brackets, and not beam?

    Don't you feel like a fool?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    I've only started drinking whiskey in the past two or three months, but I love the stuff now. I haven't tried anything Japanese yet, the only one in my local is €8 a shot. I do hope to get my own bottle of something soon, maybe a Lagavulin. I haven't tried a Glenfiddich or Glenlivet yet though and they're both cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    The Scottish Whisky Association as of today no longer recognise Jim Muarry's Whisky Bible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Joe prim


    The 1996 Sashamoto Faugavalach has an absolutely transcendent nose, complemented by subtle laburnum overtones with a subtly arousing quasi-herbal finish, reminiscent of, but totally dissimiliar to the 1904 Shinamilla Lagavourneen single malt,unfortunately , none of you can try it as me and my mate finished off the last bottle in my local last week-lovely with Coke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I'll just stick to my JAMESON IRISH WHISKEY thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭omega man


    Bill Murray in lost in translation springs to mind.....

    "Suntory time" ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,160 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    The 12 year old single malt yamazaki is incredible, would love to give the sherry cask version a try, anywhere in dublin sell it by the shot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    The 12 year old single malt yamazaki is incredible, would love to give the sherry cask version a try, anywhere in dublin sell it by the shot?

    The 12 year old hibiki is incredible, check that out if you get a chance


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Joe prim wrote: »
    The 1996 Sashamoto Faugavalach has an absolutely transcendent nose, complemented by subtle laburnum overtones with a subtly arousing quasi-herbal finish, reminiscent of, but totally dissimiliar to the 1904 Shinamilla Lagavourneen single malt,unfortunately , none of you can try it as me and my mate finished off the last bottle in my local last week-lovely with Coke.

    I must be doing it wrong, all whiskey tastes like fire to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭wilhelm roentgen


    Shouldn't the Jim be in brackets, and not beam?

    Don't you feel like a fool?

    Brackets Nazi!


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Somehow, ''a Japanese on the rocks, dosent have the same ring to it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭DuMorph


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Somehow, ''a Japanese on the rocks, dosent have the same ring to it..

    Just ask for an Iwo Jima


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    Scotch is a sham and Japanese scotch is a rip off of a sham.

    You want a decent whiskey for a reasonable price, don't look past red breast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    I must be doing it wrong, all whiskey tastes like fire to me.
    Flat red lemonade is the key. Or Miwadi Orange if you're adventurous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    ...I haven't tried a Glenfiddich or Glenlivet yet though and they're both cheaper.

    There's a reason for that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Flat red lemonade is the key. Or Miwadi Orange if you're adventurous.

    This post makes my teeth itch :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    Anyone able to locate a bottle?

    I've been looking the last few days but everywhere I found is sold out, few places in the UK, Spain and France is all I was able to find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    If it's wet and alcoholic, I'll give it a shot or two.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    If it's wet and alcoholic, I'll give it a shot or two.

    What about a dry martini? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Links234 wrote: »
    What about a dry martini? :)


    As long as she gets my jokes, it's all good.


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