Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014 - Mod Warning in OP, 10/12

Raif Severance

Raif Severance wrote: »

You think we'd buy a 29M Striker? And who would it be?

Nah, I think it will still be Mario and another Cheap Punt.

Besides, with Sturridge being Made of Glass, we actually need at least 4 Strikers.

I have no idea but Rodgers was very clear at the time. He wanted borini out.

De Bhál

I want to go to Liverpool V West Ham on the 31st of January. First time going to a game and I'm bringing my dad who's a big Liverpool fan.

What are my options for getting to this game and sending the night. I've done a quick search and with Abbey Travel it's 300 each then and separately an extra 250 or so each for flights (at a normal time). This is too much so I thought I'd ask here and see what regular travellers over to the games do.

Thanks

atilladehun

BenEadir wrote: »

I presume this analysis of our transfer strategy by Tony Barrett in the Times today has already been posted? http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/the-game/article4274285.ece?shareToken=b5ed10b6ebae1ca9fc9f5bb4cc38a1ad

It's pretty damning.

It's blocked

T-K-O

atilladehun wrote: »

It's blocked

I'm sure it goes something like this. Flop flop yawn flop success

Augmerson

If you were to assemble a Liverpool squad of the most injury prone players, who would make the team?

Aquaman - defo in. He should be captain.

jasonb

De Bhál wrote: »

I want to go to Liverpool V West Ham on the 31st of January. First time going to a game and I'm bringing my dad who's a big Liverpool fan.

What are my options for getting to this game and sending the night. I've done a quick search and with Abbey Travel it's 300 each then and separately an extra 250 or so each for flights (at a normal time). This is too much so I thought I'd ask here and see what regular travellers over to the games do.

Thanks

First, probably obvious question: do you have match tickets? Or are you looking at buying a package (i.e. flights/tickets/hotels etc.)

J.

gafferino

Rodgers says Henderson fit for Sunday.

Lambert to be involved a lot more in upcoming games.

Balotelli fitness to be assessed.

Vicxas

Lucas wants to go to Napoli, according to the toilet rags today.

J Mysterio

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

It worked a treat for 4 months as opposing teams sat off Gerrard and with lots of space he was able to dictate the play and use his passing range to spring counter attacks. It worked so well in fact that opposing teams are now man marking our dm to nullify our attacks and Gerrard is struggling as a result. Unfortunately rodgers hasn't adapted to this and our other mids aren't make use of the extra space afforded to them.

I agree with your analysis but ultimately It worked because Gerrard is a good player. But it's wasting what attributes made him a great player and totally stifling him. He's just doing a job for the team. I want Gerrard appearing at the edge of.the box to ****ing thump in a low drive!

He should play in the centre of the pitch at least. We have Leiva who is a much better DM. Can too. Even Allen could play that role as it's to be a metronome more than anything - it's not supposed to be for the hollywood passes.

Its sad to see such an illustrious career taper off with being shunted into another position to do a job and then have people get on his back for it.

NukaCola

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Again WFT.

Why have they been on the sidelines for the last two months while Sturridge has been out injured?

Because they are not very good.

Balotelli's game time was probably prioritised over them because he has more quality and ability and maybe in the hope he'll become very useful.

pmy.murphy

Pyjamarama wrote: »

First time I've unfollowed this thread. The ease at which fans on here have jumped on Rodgers back is just annoying me too much. All this "he's under massive pressure" "it's all his fault we're in this mess" rubbish is a joke. He almost led us to the league title last year. He deserves a lot more than a few months grace if the inevitable downturn in results from losing the 3rd best player in the world happened. He deserves more than a year too btw. He's a young manager, there will be times when the learning process is hard. As fans we're going to have to deal with it.

Some on here seem to think that we can click out fingers sign x y and z and everything would have been fine. It doesn't work that way, we are not the MASSIVE club some seem to think we are. All this "it's not good enough for Liverpool" muck is embarrassing. As if we have a bankroll the likes of city have or we're a club of the stature of real or barca. We're firmly in the 3rd tier of clubs in Europe at the moment. The way out of that for us is to buy players with potential to be top class. We can't compete with the wages for the top players so forget about them.

I think and hope any fans who think Rodgers should be feeling the pressure are very wrong. We have a fantastic young manager and I hope he's here for a long time.

Well to be honest Ive always been a fan of Brendan since he came on but lately just lately there has been that seed of doubt developing in my mind mainly because of his transfer dealings, tactics, insistence on playing players who keep on underperforming game after game and finally is his continuous spoofing in the press as he is now starting to contradict himself.

Brendan made a comment in his first season and early last season, to judge him on what happens in his 3rd season in charge. So far it has gone horribly wrong and while we shouldnt make any knee jerk decisions just yet, he must be given time to put things right, at least till the end of the season and if it doesnt happen then he should go because lets face it, if he cant turn things around now then he never will as he had all the money in the world to spend last summer on Suarez' sale and could have bought much better players than what he has done instead of this insistence on buying overrated in-form Premier League players. He also has 1 more transfer window before the end of the season to help put things right and I suggest that he uses it to address the real needs in the squad ie: Holding midfield, A top striker who suits our style and will guarantee goals and one right sided Central defender.

NukaCola

I dont think BR will get money to spend in January. He got 100+ million in the summer. Not to get into net spend etc but he got enough to spend and brought in 2 strikers. I know we need a goalscorer but I dont think anyone should expect money to be available. BR prioritised other positions and that has come back to bite him. Time for him to get the best out of his squad, and being honest he should and can do a lot better than we have been doing.

djPSB

Pyjamarama wrote: »

First time I've unfollowed this thread. The ease at which fans on here have jumped on Rodgers back is just annoying me too much. All this "he's under massive pressure" "it's all his fault we're in this mess" rubbish is a joke. He almost led us to the league title last year. He deserves a lot more than a few months grace if the inevitable downturn in results from losing the 3rd best player in the world happened. He deserves more than a year too btw. He's a young manager, there will be times when the learning process is hard. As fans we're going to have to deal with it.

Some on here seem to think that we can click out fingers sign x y and z and everything would have been fine. It doesn't work that way, we are not the MASSIVE club some seem to think we are. All this "it's not good enough for Liverpool" muck is embarrassing. As if we have a bankroll the likes of city have or we're a club of the stature of real or barca. We're firmly in the 3rd tier of clubs in Europe at the moment. The way out of that for us is to buy players with potential to be top class. We can't compete with the wages for the top players so forget about them.

I think and hope any fans who think Rodgers should be feeling the pressure are very wrong. We have a fantastic young manager and I hope he's here for a long time.

Well said.

5live

NukaCola wrote: »

I dont think BR will get money to spend in January. He got 100+ million in the summer. Not to get into net spend etc but he got enough to spend and brought in 2 strikers. I know we need a goalscorer but I dont think anyone should expect money to be available. BR prioritised other positions and that has come back to bite him. Time for him to get the best out of his squad, and being honest he should and can do a lot better than we have been doing.

I agree with all the above, tbh.

One point, though. I think there will be money there for a striker, if a suitable one is available but it will come out of next summers transfer funds.

I think this window will show a lot about FSGs thinking on the running of the club. We obviously need to start scoring goals but the options currently at the club aren't suitable.
Do the club back Rodgers and pick the player he wants?
Do the club back FSG and pick the player that fits the sell-on ethos currently dominating?
Do the club tell Rodgers 'You have had enough to spend, now sort it out!'

doc_17

The sad thing about it is despite all the money we have spent not one of our players would make it into the Chelsea starting 11 that played us 2 weeks ago.

De Bhál

De Bhál wrote: »

I want to go to Liverpool V West Ham on the 31st of January. First time going to a game and I'm bringing my dad who's a big Liverpool fan.

What are my options for getting to this game and sending the night. I've done a quick search and with Abbey Travel it's 300 each then and separately an extra 250 or so each for flights (at a normal time). This is too much so I thought I'd ask here and see what regular travellers over to the games do.

Thanks

Post in the Liverpool tickets thread. Good chance someone will sort you out. You'll pay face value and avoid paying the ludicrous fees travel agents charge people.

If you get sorted then book flights and accommodation separate. Much cheaper option

noodler

doc_17 wrote: »

The sad thing about it is despite all the money we have spent not one of our players would make it into the Chelsea starting 11 that played us 2 weeks ago.

Jesus, I went through the 1-11 in the hopes of proving you wrong but the only position I can find that would be even close is Sterling (and to make it close I don't put him Vs Hazard!)

noodler

Pyjamarama wrote: »

First time I've unfollowed this thread. The ease at which fans on here have jumped on Rodgers back is just annoying me too much. All this "he's under massive pressure" "it's all his fault we're in this mess" rubbish is a joke. He almost led us to the league title last year. He deserves a lot more than a few months grace if the inevitable downturn in results from losing the 3rd best player in the world happened. He deserves more than a year too btw. He's a young manager, there will be times when the learning process is hard. As fans we're going to have to deal with it.

Some on here seem to think that we can click out fingers sign x y and z and everything would have been fine. It doesn't work that way, we are not the MASSIVE club some seem to think we are. All this "it's not good enough for Liverpool" muck is embarrassing. As if we have a bankroll the likes of city have or we're a club of the stature of real or barca. We're firmly in the 3rd tier of clubs in Europe at the moment. The way out of that for us is to buy players with potential to be top class. We can't compete with the wages for the top players so forget about them.

I think and hope any fans who think Rodgers should be feeling the pressure are very wrong. We have a fantastic young manager and I hope he's here for a long time.

I appreciate your allegiance and loyalty.

However, we didn't just lose a few games or bow out of the title race.

We have had our worst start to the league in years and are almost on the verge of wasting a reasonably handy CL group.

There is merit to arguments that we are wasting a chance that was handed to us by the stars alligning last year with having the 2nd/3rd best player in the world at the club and having Daniel Sturridge injury-free for massive chunks of the season.

Agent Coulson

NukaCola wrote: »

Because they are not very good.

Balotelli's game time was probably prioritised over them because he has more quality and ability and maybe in the hope he'll become very useful.

And that is the issue the manager bought most of these players and they weren't good enough in the first place so why did he buy them then.

MD1990

For Palace I would go

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Mignolet
Manquillo---Skrtel--Toure--Moreno

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Lucas

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Can

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Coutinho

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Sterling

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Balotelli---Borini

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I would start Sakho but he is not fit. Gerrard will still start though.
Henderson is in poor form & with most likely not 100% I would have him on the bench.

Agent Coulson

Vicxas wrote: »

Lucas wants to go to Napoli, according to the toilet rags today.

Can't balme him looks like he is on the outs at Liverpool.

Looks like we aren't going to play a DM so he won't get games.

Crash Bang Wall

What annoys me most about Rodgers is his reluctance to buy a proper DM, like Mascherano, Matic etc, who love the idea of defending tackling etc. Instead we have to rely of the likes of Henderson and Allen running around like blue ar$ed flies. Thats ok in the odd European game, but in the PL, its not possible for players to play at that temp for 90 mins twice a week.

We need to be able to defend better, soak up pressure and hit teams on the break, with the pace of Sterling Moreno etc, and the willing runners like Henderson and Allen. A proper DM would give us a lot more options

BenEadir

Augeo wrote: »

If borini decked off there'd have been 13m and the Mario money, someone else might have been bought. Borini staying was a problem, he was told in no uncertain terms he wasn't wanted.

If LFC want to break his contract against his will they have to pay him up. I don't think they wanted to get rid of him that much!!

BenEadir

5live wrote: »

Do the club back FSG and pick the player that fits the sell-on ethos currently dominating?

What does that mean? FSG own the club, it's 100% theirs. How do you think "the club" would back FSG? FSG put their money down, they write the cheques, they decide how their money is spent and who spends it.

Confused

De Bhál

jasonb wrote: »

First, probably obvious question: do you have match tickets? Or are you looking at buying a package (i.e. flights/tickets/hotels etc.)

J.

I have no tickets.
I'm open really to whatever's affordable. I'd prefer book separately hotel flights and tickets, but if I was directed to a package deal that was fair I'd go with that.

Francie Barrett

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

What annoys me most about Rodgers is his reluctance to buy a proper DM, like Mascherano, Matic etc

That annoys me as well. Just like the way he also refuses to sign an attacker like Ronaldo or a defender like Kompany.

NukaCola

BenEadir wrote: »

What does that mean? FSG own the club, it's 100% theirs. How do you think "the club" would back FSG? FSG put their money down, they write the cheques, they decide how their money is spent and who spends it.

Confused

Probably meant "Do FSG back Rodgers" but mixed it up along the way.

Pyjamarama

doc_17 wrote: »

The sad thing about it is despite all the money we have spent not one of our players would make it into the Chelsea starting 11 that played us 2 weeks ago.

Yeah we should be just as good as Cheslea at picking up bargains... A ridic comparison. Chelsea spend more than we do even when we splash the cash.

djPSB

noodler wrote: »

Jesus, I went through the 1-11 in the hopes of proving you wrong but the only position I can find that would be even close is Sterling (and to make it close I don't put him Vs Hazard!)

What that also means is that last season, only Suarez and Sturridge would have made their team yet still managed to finish above them.

Harry Palmr

Francie Barrett wrote: »

That annoys me as well. Just like the way he also refuses to sign an attacker like Ronaldo or a defender like Kompany.

I think indeed I reckon I know that Crash Bang Wall was referring to the style, the nature of the player for the position - you know, fit for purpose.