Why Are You Still Fat?

Hanley

...it's probably because you don't realise how badly you're sabotaging yourself with the "odd slip" here and there.

I was putting together a webinar for my members tonight and thought this slide might shock a few of ya into tracking things a bit more carefully;



EDIT: second point is obviously 500x4

SuprSi

Nail on the head for me. I eat like a saint during the week, and although my main meals are still good (maybe larger than normal) I have real problems with avoiding junk food like crisps, chocolate and ice cream Moderation seems to go out the window once Saturday afternoon kicks in.

Blacktie.

This took me about a month into a cut to realise.

Alf Veedersane

Treat -> cheat meal -> cheat day -> weekend of decadence

Scannal

I have cheat breaks everyday. Ah sure one bar wont do any harm.

Tom.D.BJJ

So goddamn true. If that Saturday/Sunday became just a Saturday once a month, i'd have a chance.

Thank you

LuckyLloyd

Just had a bonoffi pie with my lunch. And am contemplating getting a second one! :pac:

EDIT: Clearly I'm fat because of genetics...

Zombienosh

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Just had a bonoffi pie with my lunch. And am contemplating getting a second one! :pac:

EDIT: Clearly I'm fat because of genetics...

Banoffee is kryptonite.

Gummy Panda

I have structured free meals (not cheat).I don't think of them as a treat but part of the diet. That way I don't long for them and just use them as tools to adhere to the diet or be social.

caolfx

It's glandular. Coco Pops and glandular.

Prop Joe

I was starting to wonder what was wrong with me

I keep the calories to a minimum and am in the gym 4 nights a week but zinch happening.

Guess the 12 pints of stout on a Saturday night is the problem

MD1990

Prop Joe wrote: »

I was starting to wonder what was wrong with me

I keep the calories to a minimum and am in the gym 4 nights a week but zinch happening.

Guess the 12 pints of stout on a Saturday night is the problem

That hardly took you too long to figure out:p

conzy

Delicious Guinness is 200 calories a pint. So 12 pints is 2400 calories The other issue with drinking 12 pints on a saturday is that diet adherence / training tends to go out the window on a sunday

I think everyone has experienced this "spinning wheels" at some stage. I kicked the drink for 3-4 months and made huge progress that I know I couldnt have made by still drinking the weekends. Maybe some people who can drink in moderation could still drink while cutting but you cant do an "irish" night out and not have it obliterate your previous 6 days cutting

Zamboni

I am leaving now to find the nearest establishment that sells both Guinness and banoffee
Cutting in winter is almost impossible.
Only ever want lots of "stodgy" grub.

mojesius

Because I like bread, chocolate,cheese and red wine. I generally eat healthy home cooked meals, lots of fish and veg/fruit and exercise most days. I can cut bread out during the week but usually eat some at the weekend. I tend to stick to the small aldi dark chocolate bars because I eat less than milk chocolate but the cheese...the cheese is so damn tasty with the red wine!

JJayoo

One tip is to make sure that your cheat day/days are accompanied by heavy training so that your body can make use of these extra calories.

Precious flower

I'm the same as other posters here in that I eat well all week and see the weekend as, stupidly, one/two days to treat myself which more turns into a feast .:pac: Really do need to keep that in check.

Freddie Mercurys Bolero

Because I really,really like cake.

madma

same as most again here, eat great weekedays and when weekend comes along it can go out the window. one thing i've noticed is that i get away with 1 bad day, but 2+ and ive no hope. I started to train on bad days when i can at weekend or a fasted workout the next morning after a bad night and/or drinking session it defo helps and leads to better food choice but sure if im back on the sauce that night aswel..:pac: - which can then lead to groundhog day ha

have actually lost a few stone and kept it off mainly bar a slip from last winter.. - at a good weight but cant seem to shift the stubborn bely/chest fat:( - Intermittant fasting has helped me alot and fasted fasted training..mainly compound workouts / lifting

Bruno26

Hanley wrote: »

...it's probably because you don't realise how badly you're sabotaging yourself with the "odd slip" here and there.

I was putting together a webinar for my members tonight and thought this slide might shock a few of ya into tracking things a bit more carefully 4

Credit to you for providing that insightful slide to your non members for free.

Weekends don't cause people to stay fat. Over consumption of carbohydrates do that. The idea of having a refeed/ cheat day is bull.

lazeedaisy

I am fat because after years of bad habits, I finally changed my ways 7 months ago, so far lost 3 stone, still fat,

Will continue to be fat for a while longer because Rome was not built in a day,

Working on it, consciously every day,

Hanley

lazeedaisy wrote: »

I am fat because after years of bad habits, I finally changed my ways 7 months ago, so far lost 3 stone, still fat,

Will continue to be fat for a while longer because Rome was not built in a day,

Working on it, consciously every day,

1% better each day. LEGEND!

Cake Man

Freddie Mercurys Bolero wrote: »

Because I really,really like cake.

Ahem!

Couldn't agree more with what many are saying here, it's the weekend that's the killer. I'm good Mon-Thur but come Fri evening I tend to give myself a bit of a licence to eat junk.
I've no doubt it's a mental/psychological thing as you reach the weekend after a long hard slog of a week and want to reward yourself.
I could count on one hand the number of times I've drank in the last year and haven't taken a drink since the OH bday in June but my Achilles heel is food! Not trying to make excuses and I know many here would be in a similar situation but it's tough when you're living with an OH who isn't into eating healthy and working out. Although in saying that I accept full responsibility as to what I put in my mouth.

For me (and I think many would be the same) it's hard to stop after having a cheat meal or choc bar etc. my mind tends to say "sure fcuk it you may as well keep on going now, it's not gonna make much of a difference if you have that extra bar or two of chocolate". I just don't have choc mon-thurs as I know if I get the taste on my tongue I just won't be able to stop!

Gummy Panda

Bruno26 wrote: »

Credit to you for providing that insightful slide to your non members for free.

Weekends don't cause people to stay fat. Over consumption of carbohydrates do that. The idea of having a refeed/ cheat day is bull.

Lol?

Fresh Pots

I'm fat because for years I just shovelled as many biscuits, bar, crisps, anything with sugar basically into my mouth. Alot of it was from habit. I still find myself wandering around the presses but now I realise I'm not even hungry most of the times. Also used to drink far too much milk.

I'm now one month into a diet and have lost just over a stone, have treated myself a couple of times but in general have been very good.

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

Credit to you for providing that insightful slide to your non members for free.

Weekends don't cause people to stay fat. Over consumption of carbohydrates do that. The idea of having a refeed/ cheat day is bull.

You should nip over to RomanGod's thread. He has a cheat day on Friday...more than 500 gms of the devil carbs in one day.

The fat mess.

Bruno26

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You should nip over to RomanGod's thread. He has a cheat day on Friday...more than 500 gms of the devil carbs in one day.

The fat mess.

Doesn't that prove the op post is rubbish?

no it doesn't

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

Doesn't that prove the op post is rubbish?

Not in the slightest.

CentimoSal

when you think too hard about food, you panic eat and get fat - that's why. if you're hungry; eat, and if you're not - drink water. it's that simple.

however - if you're a total glutton - this attitude to diet will not work - and therefore you can safely indulge all you want in the pleasures of glycemia spikes and fat rushes

Bruno26

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Not in the slightest.

Some people can have a cheat day and stay in great shape while others who have 4 beers and a pizza at weekend stay fat. Ye that all makes sense! That is what you are saying?

Mellor

Bruno26 wrote: »

Doesn't that prove the op post is rubbish?

How?

The OP is highlighting that a general lazy approach to your diet on the weekend can undo any calorie deficit you've accumulated. Do you disagree with that?

RomanGod tracks his intake with incredible detail, with precise targets for P/F/C. His intake is high, but it matches his net workload.
By your logic, he should be over weight from all the carbs, which can be as high at 500g on select days. But he isn't because he insure that the net effect of his week matches his goals, ie the complete opposite to the OP situation.

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

Some people can have a cheat day and stay in great shape while others who have 4 beers and a pizza at weekend stay fat. Ye that all makes sense!

So...you ridicule the OP and say it's excess carbs that make people fat.

Example given of someone who routinely eats lots of carbs but has low body fat.

You turn around and say that that proves the OP is rubbish.

Now THAT make a sense.

Bruno26

Mellor wrote: »

How?

The OP is highlighting that a general lazy approach to your diet on the weekend can undo any calorie deficit you've accumulated. Do you disagree with that?

RomanGod tracks his intake with incredible detail, with precise targets for P/F/C. His intake is high, but it matches hid workload.
By your logic, he should be over weight from all the carbs, which can be as high at 500g on select days. But he isn't because he insure that the net effect of his week matches his goals, ie the complete opposite to the OP situation.

The op specifically says you will stay fat if you have 4 beers and pizza at weekend.

That's not my logic at all. Everyone's different.

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

The op specifically says you will stay fat if you have 4 beers and pizza at weekend.

That's not my logic at all. Everyone's different.

Do you really think it was suggesting it was just because of those specific things?

Bruno26

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

So...you ridicule the OP and say it's excess carbs that make people fat.

Example given of someone who routinely eats lots of carbs but has low body fat.

You turn around and say that that proves the OP is rubbish.

Now THAT make a sense.

According to op if you eat perfectly all week but have 4 beers and pizza at weekend you will stay fat. Now is that really logical?

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

According to op if you eat perfectly all week but have 4 beers and pizza at weekend you will stay fat. Now is that really logical?

How do you not understand the point?

Mellor

Bruno26 wrote: »

The op specifically says you will stay fat if you have 4 beers and pizza at weekend.

That's not my logic at all. Everyone's different

The OP also counts out the calories. 2800 > 4 x 500, ie no deficit.
But feel free to go ahead and ignore the important bits in order to keep your head in the sand.

Also, its hilarious that you are saying everyone's different in relation to RG carb intake, when you jump in every thread telling people to eliminate carbs and that they are making everyone fat.

Nervous Wreck

Four Beers and a Pizza: The James Hanley Story.

Bruno26

Mellor wrote: »

The OP also counts out the calories. 2800 > 4 x 500, ie no deficit.
But feel free to go ahead and ignore the important bits in order to keep your head in the sand.

Also, its hilarious that you are saying everyone's different in relation to RG carb intake, when you jump in every thread telling people to eliminate carbs and that they are making everyone fat.

Carb tolerant v intolerant !

Bruno26

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

How do you not understand the point?

Is that not what the thread title and op slide implies? go read it again.

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

Is that not what the thread title and op slide implies? go read it again.

I don't need to.

I understood it perfectly.

Nervous Wreck

No, you hang up!

Mellor

Bruno26 wrote: »

Carb tolerant v intolerant !

LMFAO,

You never cease to amaze in how you can twist things to hold on to your dogma.
Someday you wake up and realise that you didn't know as much as you thought you did.

Bruno26

Mellor wrote: »

LMFAO,

You never cease to amaze in how you can twist things to hold on to your dogma.
Someday you wake up and realise that you didn't know as much as you thought you did.

You clearly don't understand this. You should read up on it.

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

You clearly don't understand this. You should read up on it.

Maybe one day you'll explain the science behind your belief rather than just repeat names and/or books.

Gummy Panda

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Four Beers and a Pizza: The James Hanley Story.

[Insert fat crying baby Hanley pic for cover]

Bruno26

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Maybe one day you'll explain the science behind your belief rather than just repeat names and/or books.

Maybe you can explain the logic behind staying fat on 4 beers and a pizza!

Alf Veedersane

Bruno26 wrote: »

Maybe you can explain the logic behind staying fat on 4 beers and a pizza!

That's been done in the OP.

Bruno26

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

That's been done in the OP.

You see the body doesn't work like that. Remember a calorie is not a calorie.

Blacktie.

Mod snip. Back seat moderation will not be tolerated.

tHB