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Olivia Mitchell "We should expand our gene pool"

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  • 20-10-2014 7:46am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/celtic-tiger-gene-pool-expansion-made-us-better-looking-says-mitchell-1.1969516

    Basically Olivia Mitchell has said that the tiger era was a good thing because we need 'mobility of races' and that we have better looking and taller children because of it.

    This is a weird enough thing to say for a politician as it already has a hint of Eugenics.
    Where it gets shocking is that she also says

    " I think it’s a good thing to keep
    our IQs up there; it’s not just about
    appearance.”

    Which seems to indicate that she believes either, Irish IQ rates were at risk due to inbreeding or that there is a racial component to IQ which Ireland can benefit from due to migration. Both views are very weird things to say and not backed up by science.

    posting this here rather than politics cafe as its more about the genetics thing than FG.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,977 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    I'd buy a mongrel over a thoroughbred tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,165 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    How does this win votes?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I'm not seeing any issues here myself. She's right. Though, I'm not sure why she would have said it. The country isn't depending on her for guidance on these matters.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,421 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    So who shouldn't have kids then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,165 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    So who shouldn't have kids then?

    Well, ideally Fianna Fail politicans. She may actually be on to something here...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    So who shouldn't have kids then?

    Howyas. Licence, please!:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    It does seem like a poorly worded statement by her. I think genetic diversity is a good thing though, particularly for Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,987 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Gongoozler wrote: »
    I'm not seeing any issues here myself. She's right. Though, I'm not sure why she would have said it. The country isn't depending on her for guidance on these matters.

    Except she's wrong, couldn't be more wrong in her libtarded eugenical understanding of genetic diversity. If you have a pool of 4 million people you have a massive pool of genetic diversity and people that fail to understand that, probably belong writing tiresome op-ed column’s for the Times because they wouldn't be left near a science or education brief.
    Clearly Mitchell buys into the 19th Century Punch magazine caricature of the Irish as simian, potato munching drunks in need of a good injection of ‘superior DNA’ and the paternal guiding hand of a colonial master. It's nice to see that the Blueshirts have outgrown their fondness eugenics and facisism.
    I'd love to hear her suggest that people in Guinea or Korea need a good injection of immigrant blood so they can be smarter, taller and less black or slanty eyed. Silly cow.
    What next? Will she be telling sobbing parents in the departures lounge to cheer up, their kids aren't being shunted out of the country in increesing numbers, they're just adding to the genetic diversity of Canada and Australia! Though by the sounds of it Mitchell probably believes that we'll be dragging them down.

    This BS from Mitchell really serves to underline what a contemptuous and traitorous political class we serve. Time to kick them out


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,414 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    We need more supermodels,or women,as the east Europeans call them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'm so inbred I'm my own grandmother.
    Ah-Hyuck!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    She would be hounded for ever if her argument worked the other way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    Here we go again, at least three or four times a year some public figure, usually from the upper echelons of society makes a proclamation along the lines of 'The Irish are ugly', 'Irish men are ugly and need to learn how to groom themselves', 'Eastern European women are much more attractive than the Irish women'.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/celtic-tiger-gene-pool-expansion-made-us-better-looking-mitchell-1.1969516

    Then there's the statement that immigration has 'improved our gene pool', I know a pretty broad range of people from different classes and Irish people having kids with non natives seems to be the exception to the rule. Generally immigrants tend to marry within their own groups. I think immigration up to a certain point is a healthy thing. Does she mean that they're improving the way we look to tourists just by having leggy Russian blondes living here and walking around the streets?.

    Is there even any scientific evidence that there was a problem with our gene pool before the celtic tiger?. It just seems like a form of contempt or an upper class in Ireland trying to get some social engineering in for the ugly backward plebs that they have to pass on the street.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    “You can even see the better-looking and taller children now as a result of the Celtic Tiger years."

    I'm reminded of Inspector Chalmers in The Simpsons:

    "Class after class of ugly, ugly children."

    There's something hauntingly... well, not fascist, but disturbing about Mitchell's comments. But then again, she is an idiot politician. People don't become politicians to prove their intelligence. It's to make up for a lack of it. Sort of like teachers, really.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Laois6556


    More prove that they were right. We just changed the colour of our flag. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,714 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Id wonder did she plan on what she said being taken very seriously.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057311198

    another thread same subject


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    How enforceable is her idea that the fathers name is the birth cert. Guarantee there are plenty out there where the father is unknown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    Blueshirt trying to kickstart Aryan race shocker...


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Threads merged, you beautiful people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Another silly politician, vastly overpaid and grossly underworked.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭BrokenHero


    In fairness. The lack of folk from the Emerald Isle featuring in porn flicks is a little suspicious.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    I'm reminded of Inspector Chalmers in The Simpsons:

    "Class after class of ugly, ugly children."

    There's something hauntingly... well, not fascist, but disturbing about Mitchell's comments. But then again, she is an idiot politician. People don't become politicians to prove their intelligence. It's to make up for a lack of it. Sort of like teachers, really.

    In a way it's probably a good thing that she's expressing these opinions because it exposes her. The psychopathic traits are kind of bubbling just below the surface a lot of the time anyway, it'd be great to see some similar outbursts from the Fine Gael bench, have Simon Harris foaming at the mouth about clearing anybody who isn't a big farmer off the land to create national parks. Sometimes when I see Michael Noonan being grilled it's like he's a hairs breadth away from exploding and spitting about how we should be grateful that we have bread and water. It's almost along the lines of George Bernard Shaw's philosophy and I've come across a fair few upper class Irish people with these kind of opinions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,982 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Very odd musings from Mitchell

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    BrokenHero wrote: »
    In fairness. The lack of folk from the Emerald Isle featuring in porn flicks is a little suspicious.

    Probably more to do with the catholic guilt and innate conservatism deeply rooted in most Irish people than a lack of looks or skills.

    Irish women are generally gorgeous within and without.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    DeadHand wrote: »

    Irish women are generally gorgeous within and without.

    I predict an inbox full of pms in your near future... :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    It could be that she attended some think thank or meeting in Brussels that's trying to push some sort of an immigration agenda. I think Fine Gael would try to bring in a hat tax if the EU told them to at this stage. Politicians make statements like this to test the waters and see what the push back is. It'd be a pretty random thing to say if there wasn't some sort of an intention behind it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    I was hoping this was gonna be Olivia Wilde. I'd expand my gene pool with her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Satriale wrote: »
    I predict an inbox full of pms in your near future... :pac:

    Psst...

    Why'd you think I said it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭RobYourBuilder


    If I was running against her in the next election, I'd print those quotes up and mail one to every house in her constituency.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Inbredness is a problem for Iceland and Greenland and such places, not for Ireland. Particularly not with so many Brits moving over here to live and work. Think there is well over 100.000 Brits here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 600 ✭✭✭lanos


    Giblet wrote: »
    I'd buy a mongrel over a thoroughbred tbh.


    me too
    its much cheaper to feed a dog
    horses cost a fortune :D


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