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What are the differences between British/Irish people?

  • 17-10-2014 10:13am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭


    Obviously, in the olden days the main difference was religion but not many people really care about that any more

    So, how about now? There's the Irish language, yet the majority can't speak it fluently. GAA... but that's just a hobby/pastime, maybe the Brits will even start to like it now it's on Sky Sports.

    Riverdance? :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭pudzey101


    The Irish are more intelligent. That's the most noticeable factor :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Nationality for one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Irish people are Irish.
    British people are British.

    /thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    Nationality for one.

    Yes, but the differences in our nationalities culturally. What we stand for.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Laois6556


    The Irish are decent people for the most part while the Brits are mostly horrible people. The horrible Irish people are west Brits and the nice British people are our fellow Gaels.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭preston johnny


    FFS not this ****e again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    In my experience, as a Brit over here, there's more mixing between social classes. And I have found that the Irish "middle-classs" are a lot more fun than the UK version.

    My "middle-class" friends in the UK wouldn't really hang around with people not from their social group, whereas here my social group is much more mixed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    The English seem to have developed herd immunity to Fartbollix Syndrome. I have encountered many Irish people who spent five years in Croydon or some similar Hell-hole and arrived back wiv a Cockney accent annat innit, saying things like "Oooh, I dan't fink much of vis, vey dan't do it properly 'ere DO thaaayy??" :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    In my experience, as a Brit over here, there's more mixing between social classes. And I have found that the Irish "middle-classs" are a lot more fun than the UK version.

    My "middle-class" friends in the UK wouldn't really hang around with people not from their social group, whereas here my social group is much more mixed.

    Wow that seems really snobbish by your mates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Laois6556 wrote: »
    The Irish are decent people for the most part while the Brits are mostly horrible people. The horrible Irish people are west Brits and the nice British people are our fellow Gaels.

    Except the Welsh. Sod the Welsh. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Yarf Yarf


    There are a lot of differences. People seem to think that British people are just white people who speak English, drink tea and have a dry sense of humour. British identity has come to mean something much broader and encompasses all kinds of cultures and ethnicities now. There are people born and raised in the UK who don't look like me or you and don't have the same values or beliefs, but they would still consider themselves British, as is their right. Do you think that the kid of Jamaican parents living in south east London has much, if anything, in common with your average Irish person? Don't get me wrong, I live in London and I love it and like the people, but I'm not going to pretend like we're all the same.

    That's not even getting into the class divide here that draws a pretty stiff line between most Irish people and a whole section of British society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Godot. wrote: »
    Obviously, in the olden days the main difference was religion but not many people really care about that any more

    So, how about now? There's the Irish language, yet the majority can't speak it fluently. GAA... but that's just a hobby/pastime, maybe the Brits will even start to like it now it's on Sky Sports.

    Riverdance? :pac:

    Nothing really, we just have notably different accents/idioms.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    I'd also say class snobbery is a fairly big difference, in Ireland people think a wage or wealth makes your a certain class while in England it is as much a mindset as anything (for some)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The British are not fvcking obsessed with the differences between them and the Irish is the biggest difference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Henry Sidney


    The Irish are obsessed with the English, the English don't give the Irish a second thought.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    And the GAA is far more than just a hobby, you'd get some strange looks if you said that where I grew up;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    Laois6556 wrote: »
    The Irish are decent people for the most part while the Brits are mostly horrible people. The horrible Irish people are west Brits and the nice British people are our fellow Gaels.

    I find all Irish people tend to generalise always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    When you are in an English village or town, every second person doesn't ask 'so what do you think of us?' ad nauseum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭Yarf Yarf


    I'd also say class snobbery is a fairly big difference, in Ireland people think a wage or wealth makes your a certain class while in England it is as much a mindset as anything (for some)

    It's definitely a mindset. I think it's because they have such a long history of aristocracy that is still alive and well today that it has just become ingrained in the culture. Some people are just "born" into class and others aren't, and there isn't as much respect for the person who goes from rags to riches (that's probably more of an American thing).


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Whats the difference?

    Intelligence.

    As to who is more intelligent, Ill leave that to you!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭deadybai


    Irish are really laid back and dont really care about anything.
    We hate successful people. Its almost embarrassing in Ireland for someone to be successful. The British are more encouraging and its normal to want to become the best at something. If you see an Irish person trying hard to become something you say ''Do ya see that gobsh!te over there trying to become a musician?" and then a typical reply would be "Yeah what a b0ll0cks!"


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Passports look different. Also, the british have gills.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Henry Sidney


    I'd also say class snobbery is a fairly big difference, in Ireland people think a wage or wealth makes your a certain class while in England it is as much a mindset as anything (for some)

    The worst snobbery I ever experienced was from Irish middle aged women.

    40+ years in England, and I saw much more snobbery in 6 years in Ireland. Same goes for racism.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    The worst snobbery I ever experienced was from Irish middle aged women.

    40+ years in England, and I saw much more snobbery in 6 years in Ireland. Same goes for racism.

    Really? Where in Ireland were you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Henry Sidney


    Really? Where in Ireland were you?

    Galway, Clare and Dublin mainly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    MarkR wrote: »
    Passports look different. Also, the british have gills.

    Not that different, I have both and always have to double check I don't lift the wrong one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    deadybai wrote: »
    Irish are really laid back and dont really care about anything.
    We hate successful people. Its almost embarrassing in Ireland for someone to be successful. The British are more encouraging and its normal to want to become the best at something. If you see an Irish person trying hard to become something you say ''Do ya see that gobsh!te over there trying to become a musician?" and then a typical reply would be "Yeah what a b0ll0cks!"

    In England we'd say the same about ourselves and Americans (with British people cast in the role you just gave Irish people).

    I guess the point is that these generalisations are mostly complete nonsense.

    The few differences I'd say I noted when I moved would be that Irish people celebrate Halloween more. And that girls tend to wear flats more than heels whereas as home it was rare to see a girl in flats regardless of the circumstances. But then that was Dublin vs Essex more than Ireland vs Britain.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Galway, Clare and Dublin mainly.
    Strange, Dublin I could understand maybe as the only true snobs I ever met in Ireland were there, d4 types and, forgive the phrase, 'west brits'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Henry Sidney


    Strange, Dublin I could understand maybe as the only true snobs I ever met in Ireland were there, d4 types and, forgive the phrase, 'west brits'.

    Trust me, there's nothing worse than a middle aged woman from Clarinbridge or Kinvara. Made some money in the boom and think they are something special. Two Bob millionaires in BMWs.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Trust me, there's nothing worse than a middle aged woman from Clarinbridge or Kinvara. Made some money in the boom and think they are something special. Two Bob millionaires in BMWs.

    Ah right, I thought that had been quarantined to south Dublin with a few enclaves on the northside


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Irish people are aware of the history between the two countries, most British are ignorant to it and don't understand the bone of contention. Then again they're so self obsessed that they don't see why anyone has any issues with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭squeekyduck


    Its hard to generalise British into one ideal person because its made up of four countries. However my observations are as follows;

    In a work environment in Ireland when passing someone in the hallway it is common curtsy to say good morning, good evening etc. In the parts of Britain I have worked in people generally dont say acknowledge you as you pass. This is not always the case but it is more common in the UK.

    The British dont have a well rounded education system as Ireland and therefore their general knowledge is lacking. This is not always the case but it is certainly linked to their 3 subject A levels Vs our 7 subject LC.

    They love caravan holidays for some strange reason, go their on any bank holiday and you will see what I mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    The only people who claim to be British live in Ireland , so no difference then.

    Also the only people who yak on about class in the UK don't live here or sell the Socialist Worker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Its hard to generalise British into one ideal person because its made up of four countries. However my observations are as follows;

    In a work environment in Ireland when passing someone in the hallway it is common curtsy to say good morning, good evening etc. In the parts of Britain I have worked in people generally dont say acknowledge you as you pass. This is not always the case but it is more common in the UK.

    The British dont have a well rounded education system as Ireland and therefore their general knowledge is lacking. This is not always the case but it is certainly linked to their 3 subject A levels Vs our 7 subject LC.

    They love caravan holidays for some strange reason, go their on any bank holiday and you will see what I mean.

    See, not a single one of these I'd reconcile with my experience of 30 years in the UK. The only difference between the office environment in both I've noticed is that people here swear more.

    I've never met anyone in my life who has been on a caravan holiday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    In a work environment in Ireland when passing someone in the hallway it is common curtsy to say good morning, good evening etc. In the parts of Britain I have worked in people generally dont say acknowledge you as you pass. This is not always the case but it is more common in the UK.

    The British dont have a well rounded education system as Ireland and therefore their general knowledge is lacking. This is not always the case but it is certainly linked to their 3 subject A levels Vs our 7 subject LC.

    It might seem like a generalisation but they're horrible to work with. I've worked with companies that have uk mainland offices and have always found them condescending and they treat the Irish as if they're thick.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    smash wrote: »
    Irish people are aware of the history between the two countries, most British are ignorant to it and don't understand the bone of contention. Then again they're so self obsessed that they don't see why anyone has any issues with them.

    For a country supposedly ignorant of its history, it has lots of fine museums that put ours in the ha'penny place and looks after its heritage far better than we do. Heritage lottery grants for projects vs. crumbling castles and roofless historic houses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    smash wrote: »
    It might seem like a generalisation but they're horrible to work with. I've worked with companies that have uk mainland offices and have always found them condescending and they treat the Irish as if they're thick.

    Maybe they've been put off by the huge Anti-Brit chip you clearly have on your shoulder?

    I'm a delight to work with :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭squeekyduck


    Beefy78 wrote: »
    See, not a single one of these I'd reconcile with my experience of 30 years in the UK. The only difference between the office environment in both I've noticed is that people here swear more.

    I've never met anyone in my life who has been on a caravan holiday.

    You have probably lived in the nice parts!

    The only people I know in Ireland who own caravans are of the howya boss types while in the UK I can name countless people who all own a caravan. Its a past time that came in after WW2 due to low manufacturing cost and seems to have stuck.

    I agree with the office swearing. Also in the office environment in Ireland its typically levi jeans and a shirt, in the UK its shirt and tie only (Based on industry I am in at least)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    You have probably lived in the nice parts!

    The only people I know in Ireland who own caravans are of the howya boss types while in the UK I can name countless people who all own a caravan. Its a past time that came in after WW2 due to low manufacturing cost and seems to have stuck.

    I agree with the office swearing. Also in the office environment in Ireland its typically levi jeans and a shirt, in the UK its shirt and tie only (Based on industry I am in at least)

    You do defintiely see a lot of caravans on the roads on Bank Holidays but it is a small country with a lot of people in it. I don't think a significant proportion of the population holidays in them these days, although that probably wasn't the case 30 or 40 years ago before cheap air travel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Henry Sidney


    You have probably lived in the nice parts!

    The only people I know in Ireland who own caravans are of the howya boss types while in the UK I can name countless people who all own a caravan. Its a past time that came in after WW2 due to low manufacturing cost and seems to have stuck.

    I agree with the office swearing. Also in the office environment in Ireland its typically levi jeans and a shirt, in the UK its shirt and tie only (Based on industry I am in at least)

    Ah Levi jeans, boot cut. The uniform of the 35-55 year old Irishman who thinks he has "made it".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    smash wrote: »
    Irish people are aware of the history between the two countries, most British are ignorant to it and don't understand the bone of contention. Then again they're so self obsessed that they don't see why anyone has any issues with them.

    Irish people are are far more ignorant of our shared history. The paint the postboxes green and blow up the records republic.
    Now children" English rich landlord, poor irish starved catholic" repeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Mantis1234


    The Irish are obsessed with the English, the English don't give the Irish a second thought.

    This. We're very insecure. Whenever an Irish person does something bad abroad, everyone is so quick point out that "n-not all of us are like that! He's barely even Irish anyway!". And whenever a celebrity says something good about the country you can almost hear the blood rushing to the cheeks of everyone in the country in one big collective blush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭AnLonDubh


    The British have a secondary circulatory system with blood formed from an iron-copper compound and are most comfortable in roughly 1.8 Earth's gravity due to their large high-tensile strength carbon-nanotube muscle analogues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    For a country supposedly ignorant of its history, it has lots of fine museums that put ours in the ha'penny place and looks after its heritage far better than we do.

    That has nothing to do with the fact that most British people are ignorant to the history between their own country and Ireland. I've met English people who think Ireland is part of the UK ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Irish culture is more laid back, go with the flow, accept what comes. When the good times come, party like it's 1999. When the bad times come, shure fúck it we did alright while we had it.

    British culture is.......... not really like this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Wow that seems really snobbish by your mates

    Perhaps I've not expressed it well. What I mean is that they would generally socialise in a house situation with people they know from having kids in the same school etc. rather than go to the pub. In that case nearly all of the people would be "middle class", but I find over here that even in a similar situation there is more mixing of people from different backgrounds.

    I can only speak from my own experience though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Paddyfield


    Most Irish people support British football teams, just like British people do. I don't understand it but it's a fact.


    (I'm an avid supporter of a League of Ireland club....)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 130 ✭✭Henry Sidney


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    Perhaps I've not expressed it well. What I mean is that they would generally socialise in a house situation with people they know from having kids in the same school etc. rather than go to the pub. In that case nearly all of the people would be "middle class", but I find over here that even in a similar situation there is more mixing of people from different backgrounds.

    I can only speak from my own experience though.

    My experience is quite different. Here in England last week we met at a friend's house then went out to a few pubs. Present were a joiner, two nurses, a physiotherapist, a chemical engineer, a welder, a tesco checkout worker, a solicitor, a teacher and a company CEO. Quite a varied crowd really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,815 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Agricola wrote: »
    Irish culture is more laid back, go with the flow, accept what comes. When the good times come, party like it's 1999. When the bad times come, shure fúck it we did alright while we had it.

    British culture is.......... not really like this!

    The 'shure it'll be grand' culture and the sneaking regard and even open admiration for stroke pullers served us well.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    British people drive like-

    'Do bi do di do'

    Irish people drive like-

    'Da di da di da'


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