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    #62
    YellowFeather
    Registered Users Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭YellowFeather


    smash wrote: »
    The point stands that cloud is at it's core, not really different from how digital information has been stored for decades and as such it's a buzzword. Given this fact, why would you or anyone expect it to be any more secure than a server farm from over 10 years ago. You have to disregard software updates because as software updates, hacking techniques update too.

    Ah here - what? You're just saying words for no apparent reason now. No - cloud is not similar at all to how digital information has been stored for decades? Jaysus - you're asking if there's a difference between digital security between now and 2004? And - yep, that was kind of my point. Hacking has got more sophisticated.


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    #63
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    YellowFeather wrote: »
    Ah here - what? You're just saying words for no apparent reason now. No - cloud is not similar at all to how digital information has been stored for decades?
    Please explain how....
    YellowFeather wrote: »
    Jaysus - you're asking if there's a difference between digital security between now and 2004? And - yep, that was kind of my point. Hacking has got more sophisticated.
    I'm not asking if there's a difference in security, I'm saying there is no real difference in security because as it progresses, so do hackers.


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    #64
    Drakares
    Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    I despise the word "Cloud" as a technical term and immediately assume the person actually has no idea what they are referring to when they say it.

    Your data is NEVER safe... Encryption, protocols and standards have all been thought up and designed by people, and therefore will ALWAYS be vulnerable. Some things can be well designed and protected, but never 100%.


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    #65
    YellowFeather
    Registered Users Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭YellowFeather


    smash wrote: »
    Please explain how....

    What an easy thing to say. "Please explain why black is not white..."

    Look - I'm not sure how technical you are - but being "in the cloud", still means that your data is sitting on physical servers. But these guys are a million miles better than anything you would have had ten years ago. You want to know how their data storage is different from everything we've had for decades? Their physical data access restrictions, and their virtual data access restrictions, and their encryption methods pretty much. Come on - you really can't disagree with me on this point.
    smash wrote: »
    I'm not asking if there's a difference in security, I'm saying there is no real difference in security because as it progresses, so do hackers.

    Fair enough.


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    #66
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    YellowFeather wrote: »
    What an easy thing to say. "Please explain why black is not white..."

    Look - I'm not sure how technical you are - but being "in the cloud", still means that your data is sitting on physical servers. But these guys are a million miles better than anything you would have had ten years ago. You want to know how their data storage is different from everything we've had for decades? Their physical data access restrictions, and their virtual data access restrictions, and their encryption methods pretty much. Come on - you really can't disagree with me on this point.

    I really don't get you... I say cloud is a buzzword, you say it's not. I say it's just a server farm, you say it's not. Then you explain your definition as "being "in the cloud", still means that your data is sitting on physical servers". :confused:


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    #67
    YellowFeather
    Registered Users Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭YellowFeather


    smash wrote: »
    I really don't get you... I say cloud is a buzzword, you say it's not. I say it's just a server farm, you say it's not. Then you explain your definition as "being "in the cloud", still means that your data is sitting on physical servers". :confused:

    It's not my definition. Data "in the cloud" still sits on physical servers. Call it a server farm - that's fine. But, I have yet to see that term being used by real people in relation to actual datacentres.

    Cloud is not a buzzword. It's not jargon. It might be unreliable... But - like it or not - it's going to hang around for a while.


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    #68
    UCDVet
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    Encrypt your data.

    Problem solved.


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    #69
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    YellowFeather wrote: »
    It's not my definition. Data "in the cloud" still sits on physical servers. Call it a server farm - that's fine. But, I have yet to see that term being used by real people in relation to actual datacentres.

    Cloud is not a buzzword. It's not jargon. It might be unreliable... But - like it or not - it's going to hang around for a while.

    You need to listen to yourself. You've just agreed with everything I've said from the start and are now trying to somehow make it look like you're trying to teach me what cloud computing is.

    It's nothing to do with reliability, it's to do with 'Cloud' being a buzz word to describe something that essentially has been around for a long long time.


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    #70
    YellowFeather
    Registered Users Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭YellowFeather


    smash wrote: »
    You need to listen to yourself. You've just agreed with everything I've said from the start and are now trying to somehow make it look like you're trying to teach me what cloud computing is.

    It's nothing to do with reliability, it's to do with 'Cloud' being a buzz word to describe something that essentially has been around for a long long time.

    Ok. I wasn't looking for an online argument - which may make one of us. I didn't say that I disagreed with you in a lot of your points. I do not think Cloud is a buzz word - and that is really not worth discussing. Your argument is hollow:
    smash wrote: »
    It's to do with '[anything]' being a buzz word to describe something that essentially has been around for a long long time.

    Things change man.


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