Saturday Ascot

mountai

I am convinced that it will be MAAREKS day at Ascot this coming Sat. Have taken a good bet at 8s with PP. Conditions will be perfect and same Pilot as when winning this 2 years ago. Wasn't given a hard race in Paris after missing the break , hood to be fitted in stalls to stop him from acting up.

supremenovice

Very weak QEII. Why would O'Brien not enter Verrazano and War Command?

klairondavis

Verrazano was retired to stud after picking up an injury.

War Command needs rattling fast ground.

Saturday will be a day for the mudlarks.

Peintre Celebre

Both are retired to stud and American bred they would hate that ground. The race is so bad it beggars belief I was actually considering Kingsbarns each way at 20/1

Harry Angstrom

Ascot were very lucky for the first two years of this "Champions" meeting. They had unusually quick ground for this time of year and they had Frankel.

This year's "Champions" meeting is more of a sign of things to come - sh!tty ground and noticeable lack of "champions" on display. They need to rethink this meeting and have it earlier in the season. They also need to sort of the lunacy of running the Middle Park and the Dewhurst on the same day at Newmarket today.

Gringo180

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Ascot were very lucky for the first two years of this "Champions" meeting. They had unusually quick ground for this time of year and they had Frankel.

This year's "Champions" meeting is more of a sign of things to come - sh!tty ground and noticeable lack of "champions" on display. They need to rethink this meeting and have it earlier in the season. They also need to sort of the lunacy of running the Middle Park and the Dewhurst on the same day at Newmarket today.

Don't see why they don't have a champions day on the all weather. Guaranteed good ground and its something different at the end of the long turf season.

Gringo180

On another note how on earth is Top Notch Tonto 10/1. Handicapper is all he is, should be at least 25s:eek:

sdoc13

4.45 ascot. I think bold thady quill has a chance tomorrow on his preferred ground. Have been convinced he has a big handicap of this nature on him and 40/1 5 places with bet365 looks way too big to me. Smullen on board also a big plus. 2 pts ew.

Also think maarek at 7s is a great bet.

Anyone any thoughts on chiquitta. She ran a shocker in the arc but think she could be big price at 6s.

sdoc13

2.35 Cheltenham

Astracad 8/1 laddies.

Lowest mark since winning at the the course in 2011. Backed it when 5th in this last year. Think off this mark he has an outstanding chance. 2pts ew

Andalucia

mountai wrote: »

I am convinced that it will be MAAREKS day at Ascot this coming Sat. Have taken a good bet at 8s with PP. Conditions will be perfect and same Pilot as when winning this 2 years ago. Wasn't given a hard race in Paris after missing the break , hood to be fitted in stalls to stop him from acting up.

With the form Spencer is in, I couldn't back one of his mounts with counterfeit money

Whatever is going on with him, the sooner the better he is off the scene

think Eddie Lynam could still collect prize with Viztoria

mailburner

Gringo180 wrote: »

On another note how on earth is Top Notch Tonto 10/1. Handicapper is all he is, should be at least 25s:eek:

love the ground, second in this last year, this doesnt look a much better renewal
I do recall folks saying something similiar last year though or rather how bad a group one it would be if tnt won it


wondering if custom cut can take another step forward and take this, looks decent ew at 8s for a horse who will go on the ground and never runs a bad one

Peintre Celebre

5/2 Leading Light is a gift that should be welcomed with two hands

Harry Angstrom

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

5/2 Leading Light is a gift that should be welcomed with two hands

Joseph fecked up badly on him at The Curragh last time. He should have too much class for this lot.

arsenalfh

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

5/2 Leading Light is a gift that should be welcomed with two hands

Any worries about the heavy ground?

Andalucia

arsenalfh wrote: »

Any worries about the heavy ground?

Won on heavy as 2 yo
Forgotten Rules would be 20's if trained by anyone else

rockthekasbah

First time poster here lads enjoy the threads on racing,they are a lot more uplifting than the Waterford GAA thread at the minute. Think Roalco Des Farges might outrun his odds in the 3.45 at Cheltenham.The trip is more suitabe than his last two runs

Peintre Celebre

He did win his maiden on heavy. This horse could well be the best stayer since Yeats bearing in mind his only defeats were in an Arc and a messed up Irish leger and first time out. I don't think he actually wants 2 1/2 miles and his class got him through the Gold Cup. Forgotten rules could be the most under priced horse of the weekend

He is a model of consistency and I thought he's more of an 11/10 shot.


Keen on Le Bec at Cheltenham too

Gringo180

mailburner wrote: »

love the ground, second in this last year, this doesnt look a much better renewal
I do recall folks saying something similiar last year though or rather how bad a group one it would be if tnt won it


wondering if custom cut can take another step forward and take this, looks decent ew at 8s for a horse who will go on the ground and never runs a bad one

It was an appalling race last year too, Dawn Approach was gone at the game, Olympic Glory trounced them and I wouldnt particuarly call him a great miler if were been honest, besides TNT was in much much better form last year and he went off at 14s.

Integral for me, Moore in the saddle too..

Gringo180

SOme of the pricing for tomorrows racing is ludicrous, Ruler of the World only 7s and Al Kazeem is 25s even tho there was only a nose between them in the Arc. Al Kazeem usually takes a few runs to see him at the top of his game he could go well at a big price.

Peintre Celebre

Al Kazeem not tested on ground like this, Ruler ran a cracker in this last year and is at least win the Foy. I wouldn't use the proximity of the two in the Arc for this race, the arc is one of the few races I can very easily forgive horses a bad run in.

Gringo180

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

Al Kazeem not tested on ground like this, Ruler ran a cracker in this last year and is at least win the Foy. I wouldn't use the proximity of the two in the Arc for this race, the arc is one of the few races I can very easily forgive horses a bad run in.

Trainer is on record that he would prefer a bit of juice in the ground. Could be totally wrong on it but thats a huge price difference think ill throw a small each way bet on him.

tryfix

Gringo180 wrote: »

Trainer is on record that he would prefer a bit of juice in the ground. Could be totally wrong on it but thats a huge price difference think ill throw a small each way bet on him.

He loved the ground ( slow by 11.66 ) when winning the Jockey Club Cup Gp3 by 4 1/2l as a 4yo. I was surprised when he handled firm as well he did after that, he's one of those horses that go on any ground.

Would be disappointing if he was good enough to win. Hard to pick a horse in this, should be a penalty kick for Cirrus but he's really old. If Cirrus doesn't win it then it's guesswork as to who will.

At least there are plenty of nice prices available.

Ruler Of The World would be my reluctant choice based on his history in the race.

I said

After watching Newmarket yesterday they really have made a dogs dinner of the 2yr old races.No excitment or atmosphere nothing really dull as watching paint dry.

Peintre Celebre

I have no fewer than four horses from my tracker running today. Le Bec could prove a cut above these despite his mark of 149 and can take this before going on to better things.

Badly out of own, Ask Dad is extremely well handicapped based on some form in England but even on Irish form earlier in the year. He's worth a small chance at Cork over his preferred trip and a good draw at 25/1

Francie Barrett

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

5/2 Leading Light is a gift that should be welcomed with two hands

4/1 with Betfred if you're quick!

ste2010

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

He did win his maiden on heavy. This horse could well be the best stayer since Yeats bearing in mind his only defeats were in an Arc and a messed up Irish leger and first time out. I don't think he actually wants 2 1/2 miles and his class got him through the Gold Cup. Forgotten rules could be the most under priced horse of the weekend

He is a model of consistency and I thought he's more of an 11/10 shot.


Keen on Le Bec at Cheltenham too

There's a strong smell of urban sea of this post?

ShaneU

Catterick 4.15 CONRY 7/1

Won last 4 races at Catterick, 3 of them were soft ground

mailburner

some performance be forgotten rules, skys the limit next year

backed leading light at 4/1 but did double the weld duo so theres hope yet

Gringo180

Leading Light ran an absolute shocker, don't think he liked that ground at all.

rossom

All about the mud machine Maarek in the next at Ascot. Thought he did remarkably well to be beaten only 2.5L in the Abbaye having fallen out of the stalls. If they do employ the hood and he breaks on terms he'll take a load of beating

Francie Barrett

rossom wrote: »

All about the mud machine Maarek in the next at Ascot. Thought he did remarkably well to be beaten only 2.5L in the Abbaye having fallen out of the stalls. If they do employ the hood and he breaks on terms he'll take a load of beating

Apparently Ryan Moore has described the ground like a ploughed field.

Pinesky

Smullen seemed to think high numbers on the stand side fresh strip would have the advantage.
Will do r/f Gordon & Marrek .

Jerichoholic

PP server overloaded! FFS

Francie Barrett

Awful start cost Maarek a chance at competing.

Pinesky

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Awful start cost Maarek a chance at competing.

Absolutely , would have been second at least .

Backstreet Moyes

Finished with Chiquita this bad run won't end.

Harry Angstrom

Chiquita is some monkey.

Gringo180

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Chiquita is some monkey.

Absolute head case the filly is, shes a class above that field but threw away the win.

longshotvalue

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Chiquita is some monkey.

Not one for giving out about jockeys but Joey went far to early there, he did far too much going around the final bend..

BorneTobyWilde

Caution ew in 3.15
I think it can place here 14-1

BorneTobyWilde

I'll go with Captain Cat 3.30 holding up in this ground should give it a hood place chance at finish
14 ew

mailburner

custom cut ew for me

Backstreet Moyes

Shocker from Hughes imo

ste2010

You wonder is Elliot sneaking the snake with Chicago grey

mailburner

rockthekasbah wrote: »

First time poster here lads enjoy the threads on racing,they are a lot more uplifting than the Waterford GAA thread at the minute. Think Roalco Des Farges might outrun his odds in the 3.45 at Cheltenham.The trip is more suitabe than his last two runs

great first post, well done

BorneTobyWilde

Noble Mission what a fighter !!!

Gringo180

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Noble Mission what a fighter !!!

Absolutely. He really is a game game horse. Got me out of a hole there had Al Kazeem each way too, 25/1 how on earth was he that big.

MoscowFlyer

Does Australia win that?

tryfix

MoscowFlyer wrote: »

Does Australia win that?

They'd never meet on that ground. He beat the 2nd here 6 3/4 l in the Irish Champion.


The winner is an improver, bit surprised ( not really ) he had the stamina to hold on when he got caught.

BorneTobyWilde

Tar Isteach 5.25 ew 20-1
Me like.

Peintre Celebre

Regarding Chicquita, that is the first time in a post race description I've seen 'threw it away'. Though she did run into a bush when about to win a Chantilly maiden last year