Darwin's theory

lanomist

just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

daveyeh

:eek:

iDave

lanomist wrote: »

just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

Common ancestor

dodderangler

lanomist wrote: »

just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

Slow learners that's why

marcbrophy

The theory is not that we evolved from apes, but that apes and humans once had a common ancestor!

:rolleyes:

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SEPT 23 1989

where is there?

Meathlass

Because we evolved from a small sub-set of apes who had characteristics which benefited them in some way.

It's not like the entire ape population suddenly started changing into humans.

patsman07

And how are they able to use keyboards??

Humans and apes are cousins, we didn't descend from apes. Both apes and humans have descended from a common ancestor who lived hundreds of thousands of years ago. This ancestor would have looked more like an ape than a human but was distinct from both.

KomradeBishop

Taking this thread to its logically-absurd conclusion: If all creatures have a common ancestor, why is there anything other than humans?

CianRyan

lanomist wrote: »

just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

You have a misunderstanding of how evolution works.
We didn't just change one day, over millions of years we split into different paths and adapted as we needed to, that's why chimps are still chimps (but they would have been different to how they are now when we split from them) and we are now humans.

Somewhere along the road we came a fork, we decided to leave the jungles for the coast and grass lands while our releitaves stayed amount the trees, we no longer needed to swing from branch to branch and we began to learn that walking upright on two feet is more efficient.

Read the book.

c_man

If he was so smart, then how come he's dead?

fedor.2.

c_man wrote: »

If he was so smart, then how come he's dead?

I found that really funny. Just letting you know. Don't get a big head or anything.

daveyeh

Meathlass wrote: »

It's not like the entire ape population suddenly started changing into humans.

Don't know about that. Have you been to a gym lately?

Duckworth_Luas

c_man wrote: »

If he was so smart, then how come he's dead?

Dead? He evolved into a skeleton!

stmol32

lanomist wrote: »

just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

That's a really good point.
Also if it's survival of the fittest how come there's fat people?

Mr. Incognito

There are theories that due to modern Industrialism the fat and stupid are having way more kiddies and civilization is becoming more fat and stupid.

This has happened before to Rome, and Greece and other civilizations. Eventually they become over run by the hungry and desperate.

Reading Boards sometimes I wonder..........

uch

I Like Cake !

Soups123

uch wrote: »

I Like Cake !

You will be the leader

CrazyRabbit

fedor.2. wrote: »

I found that really funny. Just letting you know. Don't get a big head or anything.

Oh I don't know. Getting a big head might be advantageous to his descendents in a few hundred thousand years.

Karl Stein

How are they going to share a speedboat?

folan

Darwins the roy?

GerB40

Wow.. If you're not trolling then please, for the sake of humanity, don't have children.

Duff

Will we keep evolving and eventually turn into the Grey type aliens? Are they actually humans from the distant future coming back in time to annoy us?

Meathlass

daveyeh wrote: »

Don't know about that. Have you been to a gym lately?

Oi! You callin' me fat, mate!!

Duggy747

There's still apes because you inappropriately touch yourself.

Dirty, dirty sins of the flesh.

PopePalpatine

Wow, 25 posts in and that ultramontane troll hasn't showed up yet.

Defender OF Faith

CianRyan wrote: »

You have a misunderstanding of how evolution works.
We didn't just change one day, over millions of years we split into different paths and adapted as we needed to, that's why chimps are still chimps (but they would have been different to how they are now when we split from them) and we are now humans.

Somewhere along the road we came a fork, we decided to leave the jungles for the coast and grass lands while our releitaves stayed amount the trees, we no longer needed to swing from branch to branch and we began to learn that walking upright on two feet is more efficient.

Read the book.

What your saying right now is basically blind faith under the pretence of science since

daveyeh

Meathlass wrote: »

Oi! You callin' me fat, mate!!

Not, sure, if, you're, serious.....

smcgiff

Defender OF Faith wrote: »

What your saying right now is basically blind faith under the pretence of science since

Did you just get bored with your own troll post mid sentence?

Meathlass

daveyeh wrote: »

Not, sure, if, you're, serious.....

I thought boardsies have their humour antenna up especially in AH

Wibbs

stmol32 wrote: »

Also if it's survival of the fittest how come there's fat people?

Because survival of the fittest in the past relied on our ability to quickly lay down fat in times of plenty to store it for times of need. Generally the food with the most calorific bang for the buck is the tastiest. You evolved to love it. One theory why Neandertals died out holds that they didn't have this capacity. Instead they put on muscle bulk the more they ate and muscle eats through calories just sitting there. This made them very vulnerable to downturns in the food supply. Their teeth do seem to show more periods of dietary stress than modern humans living in the same environment.

The problem today in the western world is we live in times of constant plenty and our brains and appetites haven't caught up with that yet. Ergo fatter people.

cdoherty86

Darwin once said.

"I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale,"

smcgiff

cdoherty86 wrote: »

Darwin once said.

And?

cdoherty86

smcgiff wrote: »

And?

Bears mutating into whales?

Did Darwin ever explain why earthworms compost? I mean, why do they do it?
People just wonder about the origin of our species, the universe and they cling on to these dogmatic beliefs. Bible, Torah, Quran, Darwin, it's all the same BS to me. Nobody knows why an earthworm composts, it just does.

folan

cdoherty86 wrote: »

Bears mutating into whales?

Did Darwin ever explain why earthworms compost? I mean, why do they do it?
People just wonder about the origin of our species, the universe and they cling on to these dogmatic beliefs. Bible, Torah, Quran, Darwin, it's all the same BS to me. Nobody knows why an earthworm composts, it just does.

you dont really get science, do you?

floggg

lanomist wrote: »

just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

Em, humans are apes, aren't they?

smcgiff

cdoherty86 wrote: »

Bears mutating into whales?

Read your quote again, and put emphasis on the words 'as monstrous as'

cdoherty86 wrote: »

I mean, why do they do it?

Do what? Why do they breakdown organic matter - it's part of their digestive system. You might as well ask why do horses turn grass into manure (also good as compost)?

cdoherty86

OSI wrote: »

Because they eat food and then **** it out the other end?

Charles Darwin referred to earthworms as ‘nature’s ploughs’ because of their importance in mixing soil and organic matter, providing nutrients which other plants depend on.

Naturally, this is all just done randomly.

Reoil

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

smcgiff

cdoherty86 wrote: »

Naturally, this is all just done randomly.

Naturally. And plants conducive to such an aerated environment flourished.

cdoherty86

smcgiff wrote: »

Do what? Why do they breakdown organic matter - it's part of their digestive system. You might as well ask why do horses turn grass into manure (also good as compost)?

The horses mightn't have grass to eat were it not for earthworms, water and oxygen so obviously there's an interdependence on all the organisms and plants, animals that exist.

It doesn't strike me as a random arrangement. I'm not religious, but I just don't entirely agree with these atheistic dogmatic beliefs about the origin of universe and everything in it. That it was all just random and evolved without any direction.

So, burn me at the stake.

M5

Just because you don't understand something, doesn't make it wrong!

folan

cdoherty86 wrote: »

The horses mightn't have grass to eat were it not for earthworms, water and oxygen so obviously there's an interdependence on all the organisms and plants, animals that exist.

It doesn't strike me as a random arrangement. I'm not religious, but I just don't entirely agree with these atheistic dogmatic beliefs about the origin of universe and everything in it. That it was all just random and evolved without any direction.

So, burn me at the stake.

ok, so you really don't understand evolution. it is a heavily interesting and complex field, which you would find very interesting.

Defender OF Faith

From a purely Darwinian standpoint though, homosexuality is self-evidently a disorder I dont know how the LGBT community would react to that though

Fuzzytrooper

Can I play the piano anymore?

M5

cdoherty86 wrote: »

The horses mightn't have grass to eat were it not for earthworms, water and oxygen so obviously there's an interdependence on all the organisms and plants, animals that exist.

It doesn't strike me as a random arrangement. I'm not religious, but I just don't entirely agree with these atheistic dogmatic beliefs about the origin of universe and everything in it. That it was all just random and evolved without any direction.

So, burn me at the stake.

It certainly was not random! Traits that were useful in terms of survival lead to a higher probability of survival and finding a mate, which lead to a higher probability of those traits to be passed down to the next generation. The less favorable traits died out as a result.

Knasher

cdoherty86 wrote: »

Charles Darwin referred to earthworms as ‘nature’s ploughs’ because of their importance in mixing soil and organic matter, providing nutrients which other plants depend on.

Naturally, this is all just done randomly.

You're assuming that evolution has an end goal. That earthworms and plants would always be the conclusion, and that achieving this through random processes would yield a probability so low, that it would be almost impossible.

But this assumption is wrong, there is no end goal. The things around today are just those that managed to reproduce, their children that carried on their genes are the ones who were best adapted to the enviroment they found themselves in. And so on.

smcgiff

cdoherty86 wrote: »

there's an interdependence on all the organisms and plants, animals that exist.

There's absolutely an interdependence between organisms. And those best suited to each other are the ones that survived until now.

For sure all of the species on the planet will eventually succumb to the survival of the fittest - well, except cockroaches and Man Utd supporters (for the same reason!).

TheDoctor

lanomist wrote: »

just a question, If Darwins theory on evolution, that humankind evolved from apes, why are there still apes out there ?

Bit harsh on the Irish Water protesters, but fair

GreeBo

KomradeBishop wrote: »

Taking this thread to its logically-absurd conclusion: If all creatures have a common ancestor, why is there anything other than humans?

Ask yourself why all humans are different?

b318isp

I call troll here. It's 2014 FFS.