Has a Jehovah's Witnesses every converted someone on the doorstep

Shiraz 4.99

They must be brainwashed into accepting rejection positively.
Even the chap selling Pre-Pay Power gets the odd sucker now & again.
Days, weeks, months must go buy without a single declaration of interest.
That Windows guy who rings from India has a better success rate.

Must be the most fruitless pursuit ever.

Generic Dreadhead

I'd imagine so, have you ever watched Louis Therox meeting the Westboro Baptist Church?
Some people are idiots, and others are lonely and want to feel part of something, some are both... .and brainwashed aswell

The_Valeyard

Well at least they are not trying to charge ya for water!

smcgiff

I live close to the JW hall in Rathgar, it's quite busy - they must have converted some people.

oceanman

Shiraz 4.99 wrote: »

They must be brainwashed into accepting rejection positively.
Even the chap selling Pre-Pay Power gets the odd sucker now & again.
Days, weeks, months must go buy without a single declaration of interest.
That Windows guy who rings from India has a better success rate.

Must be the most fruitless pursuit ever.

maybe they find doing the lords work fruitfull enough in itself..

uch

I always give them my mates phone no. and tell them to ring me later when I have time. I've been doing this for about 20 years now, if he ever finds out he'll probably batter me

foggy_lad

Like other religions they prey on the weak and afflicted with promises of all sorts of miracles and relief for suffering but at the end of the day all they want is money and what they offer amounts to nothing more than empty promises!

dodderangler

The gf family are Jehovah's and they've never ever tried to convert me.they respect who I am and religion I am. They're possibly the nicest people I've ever met.

kneemos

They wear you down and eventually you say oh alright what the hell.

Peace be with you brother.

Generic Dreadhead

dodderangler wrote: »

The gf family are Jehovah's and they've never ever tried to convert me.they respect who I am and religion I am. They're possibly the nicest people I've ever met.

She knows your username on boards so yeah?

jk

Shiraz 4.99

oceanman wrote: »

maybe they find doing the lords work fruitfull enough in itself..

The lord would want to start delegating his decreasing flocks time more wisely & not waste their valuable time on fools errands.

Caliden

I can see why people join it.

Some people are so unhappy with their current life that they want to believe that when they die they can be resurrected and have a better life next time.


It's sad really and you'd get depressed thinking about it.

John Mason

some of my Dads family were converted and are now staunch Mormons.

Lovely people but obviously a bit feeble minded:pac:

ezra_pound

There's over 7 million of them so presumably the doorstep challenge must occasionally work.

nelly17

Was'nt Prince one - used to call door to door with Bodyguards - or am I imagining this?

kneemos

nelly17 wrote: »

Was'nt Prince one - used to call door to door with Bodyguards - or am I imagining this?

Purple haze dude.

rubadub

nelly17 wrote: »

Was'nt Prince one - used to call door to door with Bodyguards - or am I imagining this?

Its true, I'd fucking love it if he called to my house.

nelly17

kneemos wrote: »

Purple haze dude.

No Hendrix deffo not a Jehova

Iwasfrozen

nelly17 wrote: »

Was'nt Prince one - used to call door to door with Bodyguards - or am I imagining this?

I would so convert if Prince showed up at my house.

Berserker

dodderangler wrote: »

They're possibly the nicest people I've ever met.

They are ridiculously polite. I don't agree with them from a religious perspective but they could certainly teach people a thing or two when it comes to manners.

I remember watching a programme about them and they have a target of converting four people per year when they are on the mission (calling door to door).

jjbrien

Berserker wrote: »

They are ridiculously polite. I don't agree with them from a religious perspective but they could certainly teach people a thing or two when it comes to manners.

I remember watching a programme about them and they have a target of converting four people per year when they are on the mission (calling door to door).

Dunno about the polite thing they are just like everyone else have some good and some bad ones. They called around to my moms one day and she told them she wasn't interested she went to close the door and they put their foot in the door to stop her from doing so. When my mom said she would call the guards they backed off.

I know someone who was brought up JW and she wants to leave the church but her issue is all her family are JW and if she leaves its the policy of their church to shun her and then her family will not talk to her again.

KungPao

Are they the same as Mormon's? Like Joe Young in Orgazmo?

Berserker

KungPao wrote: »

Are they the same as Mormon's?

No, they are not they same. Founded by different people and they have different beliefs. Moroms believe that 'New Jerusalem' will be built in the USA. JWs believe it is heavenly, as an example.

GerB40

I challenged them once and the absolute drivel they spouted back to me converted me to atheism.

So yeah, I converted...

Fallschirmjager

Probably make great sales people, staying positive with so much rejection.

foggy_lad

Berserker wrote: »

They are ridiculously polite. I don't agree with them from a religious perspective but they could certainly teach people a thing or two when it comes to manners.

I remember watching a programme about them and they have a target of converting four people per year when they are on the mission (calling door to door).

isn't the founder a convicted murderer? or is that the Mormons founder?

ezra_pound

foggy_lad wrote: »

isn't the founder a convicted murderer? or is that the Mormons founder?

The founder of Mormonism WAS murdered.

Nomis21

When I was a coach driver in the UK I was given a job to take forty of them to a JW meeting in Bristol.

Before we left they said a prayer for the driver. About an hour later I had an accident on the road. The only accident I ever had as a coach driver in 25 years.

Berserker

foggy_lad wrote: »

isn't the founder a convicted murderer? or is that the Mormons founder?

Not that I know of.

Joseph Smith, who founded the Mormons was murdered in cold blood. He was running for President of the USA at the time.

Charles Taze Russell is the founder of the JWs, according to google and I can't find anything about murder in his profile online.

WoollyRedHat

nelly17 wrote: »

Was'nt Prince one - used to call door to door with Bodyguards - or am I imagining this?

Yes indeed he is, I don't know why Jehovah witnesses don't publicize this fact to convert the non-believers. Probably because he doesn't allow them to use his image.

Columbia

I heard a radio show once where a JW was asked about success rates for the doorstep thing. He said it averages about 1 in 1,000.

ezra_pound

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Yes indeed he is, I don't know why Jehovah witnesses don't publicize this fact to convert the non-believers. Probably because he doesn't allow them to use his image.

Michael Jackson and all his family. Shimoan

Young Blood

Selling religion is like selling any other product. There's a mathematical formula to it.

Minera

When ones calla to the door I usually ask them would they change to Catholic Church, I always get "no but...." that's where I cut in and say... I dont try to change your religion so please don't change mine.
Similarly when a religious person comes to the door telling me to "give to others" etc... and holds out their hand for money I say " that's a nice coat.... I don't have a coat, I can't afford it".
It's funny how quick they turn and leave!

Mwahahahaha

UCDVet

They didn't convert me, but they do make me think a lot more highly of their religion.

There are a lot of religions/religious people that *honestly believe* I'm going to spend eternity in hell (or something similar) because I don't know about the word of some religious dead guy. If I *knew* my co-worker pal was going to miss out on free Ice Cream at lunch, I'd tell him. So, if I *know* he's going to hell, unless he knows about the rules of some god - what kind of horrible person would I be, to not do everything I could to convince him?

I think it's a complete cop-out to say, 'Oh well, *I* believe in God and heaven and hell, but if you don't - that's cool'. Yeah, you're 'cool' with letting your fellow man miss out on heaven because you don't want to take the time to talk about it....that's like a parent letting their kids do cocaine because they don't want to be 'uncool'.

Worse, I've seen plenty of religion-based charities asking me for my money. They aren't even trying to convert me, and save me from damnation - they just want some money.

The Mormons, while I don't agree with them, they at least act in accordance with their beliefs. They believe I need to know about their God, and they believe it strongly enough, and they care enough about me, to come to my door. They don't ask for money. They try to *give* me stuff (books usually). They also offer to help out with anything. I'm not kidding, I was hanging drywall when two guys knocked on my door, I told them I was busy, and they offered to help. And I said, 'Sure'.

They stayed for 20 minutes, and really did help me out. And yeah, they did talk to me about their church and stuff, and no, I didn't go. But those Mormon's did more for me in the name of religion than ANYONE ELSE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. They didn't ask for anything, they know people are going to yell at them, but they genuinely want help, so they go out and do thankless work because they believe it is right.

I really can't fault them for that.

thomur

There was a load of them in Phibsborough 20 years ago. Converted 4-5 where I worked. I heard they say women cant go to heaven if they are not married so the incidence of women proposing is a lot higher.

Young Blood

There are Jehovah's in my area who tried to convert a very dysfunctional family.

They gave up hope after one of the family stole 60 pounds from the handbag of the lead Jehovah's wife.

Another family member made a pass at the same guy's son (apparently tried to rape him).

Bad people. They would corrupt satin himself.

A cow called Daisy

Remember hearing about a young lad calling to an old neighbours house collecting for, I'm told, the J.W.'s.
"Who are you collecting for?" asked the old man.
"I'm collecting for tbe Lord" says the young lad.
"Good lad, and what age are you?" the old man asks
"I'm 18" he says
"Well I'm 75" says the old man "I'll probably see Him before you and I'll give it to Him myself":D

Sir Arthur Daley

They normally scatter when the conversation gets to the bedroom department.

diograis

UCDVet wrote: »

They didn't convert me, but they do make me think a lot more highly of their religion.

There are a lot of religions/religious people that *honestly believe* I'm going to spend eternity in hell (or something similar) because I don't know about the word of some religious dead guy. If I *knew* my co-worker pal was going to miss out on free Ice Cream at lunch, I'd tell him. So, if I *know* he's going to hell, unless he knows about the rules of some god - what kind of horrible person would I be, to not do everything I could to convince him?

I think it's a complete cop-out to say, 'Oh well, *I* believe in God and heaven and hell, but if you don't - that's cool'. Yeah, you're 'cool' with letting your fellow man miss out on heaven because you don't want to take the time to talk about it....that's like a parent letting their kids do cocaine because they don't want to be 'uncool'.

Worse, I've seen plenty of religion-based charities asking me for my money. They aren't even trying to convert me, and save me from damnation - they just want some money.

The Mormons, while I don't agree with them, they at least act in accordance with their beliefs. They believe I need to know about their God, and they believe it strongly enough, and they care enough about me, to come to my door. They don't ask for money. They try to *give* me stuff (books usually). They also offer to help out with anything. I'm not kidding, I was hanging drywall when two guys knocked on my door, I told them I was busy, and they offered to help. And I said, 'Sure'.

They stayed for 20 minutes, and really did help me out. And yeah, they did talk to me about their church and stuff, and no, I didn't go. But those Mormon's did more for me in the name of religion than ANYONE ELSE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. They didn't ask for anything, they know people are going to yell at them, but they genuinely want help, so they go out and do thankless work because they believe it is right.

I really can't fault them for that.

Did you honestly just confuse Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons I can't tell.

Cookie_Monster

how does it work with the blood thing once you convert. if you've had a transfusion before how do they reconcile that with the crazy no blood rules

J Mysterio

Berserker wrote: »

Not that I know of.

Joseph Smith, who founded the Mormons was murdered in cold blood.

Not sure about your wording there chap, he was no innocent... They had been involved in countless battles and land grabs against local populations. Didnt win many friends and it came back to bite JS in the ass.

worded

Anyone hear about the gay JW calling to people in the Wicklow area?

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They are knocking on people's back doors

worded

Hear about the JW xmas 2014 advent calendar?








Behind every door it says Fcuk off !

Omackeral

Used to be a Witness back when I was a kid. Not by choice but my parents converted when I was about 5. I stopped attending meetings when I was starting secondary school.

As kids, we never had any birthdays, Christmases, Halloweens or Easters. But having said that, never really knew any different. Plus we never were deprived of toys or anything, I was first on my road to have a PlayStation! The thing about the manners is definitely true. Jehovah's witnesses are by and large very friendly and mannerly people, you can notice it with the children especially. You wouldn't hear them cursing or anything.

The religion is one of Christianity and is none too different from other ones bar small difference such as not believing in the Holy Trinity ie God and Jesus are seperate entities. Also I always remember not being allowed to eat black pudding because it's made with blood as an ingredient. Also, they believe that a special select few only get to Heaven (144,000) whereas the rest of the good people will be resurrected on a cleansed Paradise here on Earth.

As I said, I've no affiliation to any religion and am far from learned on any in-depth but if anyone has any questions from the point of an 11 year old young lad, I'll do my best!

Berserker

J Mysterio wrote: »

he was no innocent... They had been involved in countless battles and land grabs against local populations. Didnt win many friends and it came back to bite JS in the ass.

Quite probable that you are correct. I was just commenting that he was murdered when he was running for the position.

grundie

When I was at Uni, there was a guy in his 50s who stood out because he was so much older than every other student. He seemed Okay until he admitted that he threw his son out when he was a teenager for smoking pot and therefore not abiding by 'the truth'. Later his son was found dead in a drug addicts hostel. He claimed, with some pride, that he had no regrets as he was following 'the truth'.

He was also a landlord and made all his tenants agree to live by JW morality standards.

I actually went to a few JW meetings out of curiosity. There was a lot of brainwashing going on. A mic was passed around and members testified how great their beliefs were why they should avoid anything was would sway them. I could see how their system would suck people in. They created friendships and used the threat of shunning as a means to keep people believing without question.

Like a lot of religions that demand a lot of their followers, most of them are fine. But some members take their beliefs to extremes.

CrazyRabbit

I've always wanted to know why this Jehovah guy needed witnesses.

Knasher

foggy_lad wrote: »

isn't the founder a convicted murderer? or is that the Mormons founder?

The Mormons founder was a convicted conman, and when he was killed, he was waiting trial for conspiracy to commit murder and treason.

Knasher

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

I've always wanted to know why this Jehovah guy needed witnesses.

Because his name comes from a mistranslation so he needs people to vouch for who he actually is.

J Mysterio

He's not Jehovah, he's a very naughty boy...